Yes, from watching the video, it (the trx) appears to be a great kite for non windy days when you want some sand in your bum crack. Surely to even launch in the said, "3-4 knots" you would have to create apparent wind?? i dont think my 14m would even unravel itself along the ground downwind in 3-4 knots when i take it out of the bag? so without the viagra jokes, how would you even get it up???

and the 6 will pull like a 14

no offence mike, but your photo shows bay, not surf. I have my hopes up for a large kite like the trx to work in 10 knts and surf. I know it won't turn like my nine, it just can't, but if it turns quickly enough that i can anticipate without waiting, then it might fit the bill. I appreciate that you are stoked with the Argo, I love the Argos too. 17 meters is a big kite, but if it can relaunch in light wind, and if it can turn quick enough, (relative) than I want to try it out. I am one of those people that likes to kite in all conditions, and I get frustrated if I can't get out after a couple of days. A light wind kite will ease that frustration as time on the water always makes me a more relaxed and balanced person.

Ive got a 17m taboo i can get up in bout 9knots. Start having fun in like 11 knots. Ive taken it in dodgy mackay surf once id never do it again. Dont have the turning speed to pop over waves end up getting hit in the face by every single one. Big kites provide alot of constant pull cause of big surface area. Im no surfer but dont think thats wat u want. Dont they use little kites that drift with them?

Mikedobee said...

nice poo stance

dafish said...

dusta dude, give him a little slack, he only just started kiting. The fact that he is getting out on a board in waves is good. It seems to me it wasn't that long ago that he showed up as an absolute newbee. Given the time he has had on the water, I think he is doing okay. Nothing beats good ol enthusiasm.

jeesus some people are thinned skin . Correct stance was taught to me from the get-go .

dafish said...

my skin is reasonably thick, but I would still rather look for a positive comment than a slanderous one....

LOL WHAT?


pointing out someone has a poo stance is slanderous how ?

17m Kite looping in 6-7 knots,

Yes they turn fast for the size.
Its a true 17m, not a 14m with 17m printed on it.
Its a lot of fun for 87kg on a lot of rocker 5ft3 surf board from 8+ knots.
The video is shot in 6-7 knots
I designed it to be a fun fast light agile, light wind wave kite, something that you feel powered up in 8+ knots, something that does not feel like a truck.
The fun range is from 8+ knots, its doable on a large board or race board in less knots.
Yes it does turn faster than some 12m 2012 well advertised kites.
No I wont mention what other brands kites it turns faster than.
No it does not turn faster than a 4m kite
No it will not give you poo stance.
Yes the kite goes upwind great and does not pull you downwind.
Yes its a good light wind surf kite, you can pivot turn the kite at 180 degrees very fast on a wave as the vid shows.
Yes the kite turns faster in 8 knots than the 6-7 knot video below.
Yes it has excellent drift.
Yes the kite has a lot of depower, you can turn off the kite on a wave.
Yes I added the Argo auto assisted relaunch for easy relaunch in light winds.

I feel the TRX is the fastest most agile easiest to relaunch light wind wave and free ride kite available.

Yes this sounds hard to believe

Below video shot in about 6-7 knots, medium 53 cm bar
Kite was on the medium turning setting, not fast. Lines were 25m
Kite is designed for 25m for surf, add line extensions for more light wind ability or racing. (Yes it turns faster with a larger bar )

Sorry for the sucky video, the 17m has only been in Australia for a few weeks and I have been busy flying it, not filming it. Video was shot just to show the turning speed. I will get a wind meter and get better video to more accurately show off the capabilities of this kite.

There is only 1 x 17m TRX in Australia and a few others around the planet,
They are in production now and a few weeks away.

I have put a hell of a lot of time building this kite, most brands go for high aspect large kites, High aspect 17m Kites suck for turning and relaunch and drift. I designed something else, 3 strut 17m not high aspect designed to turn and drift and feel light and fast and go upwind and relaunch easily in light winds.

dusta, your post wasn't slanderous as per say, I was just stating that I would rather say something positive...looking back at my "too much work and not enough kiting" comment on a sunday night = failed attempt to get my message across.
All this poo stance talk is giving me the runs...

Really? 10 meters Rally in 10 knots? That's awesome. I could only go down wind in 10 (if). But again, I only have a 129 twin tip.

Could you actually go upwind too?

COL said...

dafish said...

I have my hopes up for a large kite like the trx to work in 10 knts and surf.

I use my 10m Rally in 10 knots. I have a light wind specific board, great as long as the swell is not big because it can't handle too much speed. but that's an option without opting for a big cumbersome kite.
cheers
Col

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pilotpete said...

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helps when we can see whats on the screen of your $50 wind meter
another pointless video

Yeh full screen it, easy enough to see. **** all wind basically

dafish said...

Nice Pilot Pete...you flew the kite, you showed us the wind conditions, and we got to see a little of how the kite performs. Not a white cap in sight. Thanks for putting that together, represents a better informed opinion on the kite.
I should have a 17 showing up soon, and though I don't do video, I will send a report through after I give it a run.
Kite looks good!

Hey look forward to that. Don't mind me asking how long you been kiting and what other brands have you flown and types?

Wow at for the details lol. Sounds like a cool life you live man. Prick. Nah just joking. Yeh I agree with what you said aboutn the rebels, all of it, good and bad. After a marginal kite like you hence the interest. Keen on hearing ya feedback man. Also what star sign are ya. Ha ha.