2014 Naish Park Review

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terryzarmzof
terryzarmzof
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14 Nov 2013 9:52pm
Ya
Lamza said..

Hey guys

I am planning to buy Park's too but not sure what combo to get?!

Currently riding Torch 2008 12/8 combo....I am 65kg/143 lbs and riding 134/40 TT. Riding mostly from 12 to 30 knots...:)

What would you get?

@riddim : Can you tell me what is you weight so I can compare if i need smaller / bigger combo?


I have 10/7 parks and am 70 kg. 2013 model. I'd say that would be good for you.
On the sb I ride on the 20m lines, freestyle 25m.
The7 in 20+ on the sb is so fun

riddim1
riddim1
QLD
156 posts
QLD, 156 posts
14 Nov 2013 10:45pm
Lamza said...
Hey guys

I am planning to buy Park's too but not sure what combo to get?!

Currently riding Torch 2008 12/8 combo....I am 65kg/143 lbs and riding 134/40 TT. Riding mostly from 12 to 30 knots...:)

What would you get?

@riddim : Can you tell me what is you weight so I can compare if i need smaller / bigger combo?


Hey Lamza,
I am 83kgs at the moment..... You must be nuked on the 12 Torch @ 15kts. I was going to suggest what Terryzarmsoff said regarding the 10/7 combo. If you are planning to stick with the twin tip you may find this mix a little light in the power category however. Going from a 12/8 @65kgs you are probably use to being over cooked. I hate to be boring but I really would suggest the 11/8 or 11/7 combo as a safe bet. The 2014 parks would turn much quicker than a 2008 Torch and as such generate much more relative power. I'm sure you will be impressed but only a demo would confirm that. Good luck.
HappyG
HappyG
VIC
294 posts
VIC, 294 posts
15 Nov 2013 1:05pm
Riddim1, I am interested in the Park I have ridden the 2012 but it was not rigged for my style and it felt like it had no grunt.

Anyway what boards are you using with your 11 and 8 combo.

I am 90kgs and ride a 10 & 7 Rebel but they are not very good in the waves and I am looking for a better overall kite. I also ride 70% waves to 30% flat water. I would like to progress more in the waves and I hope this kite can do that. I also ride solo so getting the kite to self land is a priority.

I am going to demo one soon. I have also tried the North Dice but have not made up my mind yet.
Lamza
Lamza
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7 posts
15 Nov 2013 1:03pm
Thank you guys , i was thinking the same 10/7 or 11/7 combo. I am afraid 10 would be small for 12 knots but anyway fun starts around 15 knots so maybe 10m would be ok. I will try to demo one
arloj
arloj
WA
237 posts
WA, 237 posts
15 Nov 2013 4:09pm
HappyG said..

Riddim1, I am interested in the Park I have ridden the 2012 but it was not rigged for my style and it felt like it had no grunt.

Anyway what boards are you using with your 11 and 8 combo.

I am 90kgs and ride a 10 & 7 Rebel but they are not very good in the waves and I am looking for a better overall kite. I also ride 70% waves to 30% flat water. I would like to progress more in the waves and I hope this kite can do that. I also ride solo so getting the kite to self land is a priority.

I am going to demo one soon. I have also tried the North Dice but have not made up my mind yet.


self landing the dice is quite easy, just takes a little longer due to the y split being so far up the lines..i had the 6 & 9 park and swapped them over for a 6 & 9 dice

dice would be a better wave kite
riddim1
riddim1
QLD
156 posts
QLD, 156 posts
15 Nov 2013 9:18pm
HappyG said..
Riddim1, I am interested in the Park I have ridden the 2012 but it was not rigged for my style and it felt like it had no grunt. Anyway what boards are you using with your 11 and 8 combo. I am 90kgs and ride a 10 & 7 Rebel but they are not very good in the waves and I am looking for a better overall kite. I also ride 70% waves to 30% flat water. I would like to progress more in the waves and I hope this kite can do that. I also ride solo so getting the kite to self land is a priority. I am going to demo one soon. I have also tried the North Dice but have not made up my mind yet.


HappyG, I skipped the 2013 Parks as they were practically identical to the 2012's which I had as well. They did lack power and you had to ride them on the wake setting which had the kite wanting to fly central to the power window. I'm riding the BWS 5'9" Drifter presently. Brilliant board for wind swell actually..... Rebels are notoriously powerful to comparative sizes so you would need to go up a meter with each kite. I seriously don't know how Sky Solbach can ride those things the way he does in the waves...... Anywho, demo is the only way forward. Cheers.
TheGeneral
TheGeneral
WA
31 posts
WA, 31 posts
16 Nov 2013 12:51pm
AllianceGear said...
The Blade swivel is by far the best i have seen and used and we have customers putting them on other brands of kites as well.

One thing i forgot to mention is NEVER EVER lube the swivel with anything!!!! it just gives the sand something to stick too.



I've had my new Blade Unibar in the sand a few times now, and the swivel is still silky smooth. The one on my 2011 Slingshot Comp Stick was already getting crunchy after a few sessions, and now it barely moves at all. So Blade have definitely impressed me there.

On the subject of lube, what about a dry lubricant like graphite powder? Not that my new swivel needs it; just wanted to rehabilitate the old Slingshot swivel.
Weta
Weta
WA
893 posts
WA, 893 posts
16 Nov 2013 8:11pm
I don't agree that the 2012 & 2013 parks were identical, the 2013 imo is a more powerful faster turning kite than the 2012, I actually preferred the 2011 over the 2012 I felt it had more raw power & was livelier.

I really enjoyed flying my 2013 10m had traded it on a 2014 10m but only been out in at a spot that wasn't ideal for me to put a new kite through its paces.

I cant see any difference between the 2013 & 2014 swivel unless it's internal?
apepene43
apepene43
QLD
117 posts
QLD, 117 posts
17 Nov 2013 12:29am
I liked both the 2012.and.2013. Parks but thought the 2013 turned a bit better faster
terryzarmzof
terryzarmzof
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336 posts
QLD, 336 posts
17 Nov 2013 11:54am
Yeah I gotta say the 2013 is pretty much the same as the 2014, minus the pulleys. I have 2013 and had a couple sessions on the 2014 and it felt pretty much the same so I didn't bother upgrading this year, but they are miles part from the 2012 park which I didn't like and stuck with the 2011 for another year. The 2011was probably a better wave kite than the others but it did lack low end. The 2013 does not lack low end
carl vader
carl vader
28 posts
28 posts
19 Nov 2013 4:17am
Hi. I've been riding Parks since they were put on the market. This year the static bridle platform do a huge difference in waves. The Park 2014 drifts better and It is more direct during the steering. Lift and hag time are both consistent. The low end power has been noticeably increased. Now I can use the 11 and the 8 instead of the 12 and 9. Overall I am more than happy with it. Here's a video of the first hawaiian sessions here in Maui.
Best regards
Carlo

Weta
Weta
WA
893 posts
WA, 893 posts
20 Nov 2013 2:28pm
Thanks for the vid Carl, looks like you had a fun session.

I like the look of the spot, where is that?

ta.
carl vader
carl vader
28 posts
28 posts
21 Nov 2013 4:51pm
Hi Weta. The spot is Kanaha Maui with three breaks, Lowers, Naish Beach and Pier One. I love this spot even if sometimes is very crowded. When it is big is one of the best waves in Maui and 8 turns can be normal.
Cheers
Carlo
glasstraxx
glasstraxx
WA
321 posts
WA, 321 posts
12 May 2014 1:28pm
look for a little bit of advice if possible...

i have 8m 2012 park, 11m 2012 vector and a 2013 zephyr. looking to get rid of the vector as its a little slow for my liking and want to upgrade to a park.

problem is its hard to find an 11m park so i wondering if 10m would be too much of a gap from the zephyr and i think the 12m might have too much gap for the 8m..

I am 85kg and have a small board 132x41 naish momentum. would the 10 park get me going at 16-17 knots?
Greggor
Greggor
QLD
191 posts
QLD, 191 posts
12 May 2014 6:31pm
For your weight and board size with 16-17 knots i would defiantly be looking at the 12. You will be able to ride it until 25 knots comfortably and then the 8m will be in its sweet spot.

For what its worth i am a similar weight (5kg less) and ride a 12/8 combo and it works well for me.
glasstraxx
glasstraxx
WA
321 posts
WA, 321 posts
12 May 2014 7:54pm
Greggor said..

For your weight and board size with 16-17 knots i would defiantly be looking at the 12. You will be able to ride it until 25 knots comfortably and then the 8m will be in its sweet spot.

For what its worth i am a similar weight (5kg less) and ride a 12/8 combo and it works well for me.


thanks for the reply, im really scared for the big gap! i recon the zephyr should cover me untill 20 knots tops. so im hoping the 10m would kick in well from 18knots...
Greggor
Greggor
QLD
191 posts
QLD, 191 posts
13 May 2014 8:56am
You will be able to ride the 10 at 18 knots defiantly, but if your like me and like to ride well powered it may frustrate you especially with a 132 board, an 11 would defiantly be the pick but if they are hard to find then thats not much help. do you have any other boards?
glasstraxx
glasstraxx
WA
321 posts
WA, 321 posts
13 May 2014 10:00pm
no not at the moment! i think a large light wind board could make the 8, 10 & 17 work...
cauncy
cauncy
WA
8407 posts
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14 May 2014 7:47am
glasstraxx said...
Greggor said..

For your weight and board size with 16-17 knots i would defiantly be looking at the 12. You will be able to ride it until 25 knots comfortably and then the 8m will be in its sweet spot.

For what its worth i am a similar weight (5kg less) and ride a 12/8 combo and it works well for me.


thanks for the reply, im really scared for the big gap! i recon the zephyr should cover me untill 20 knots tops. so im hoping the 10m would kick in well from 18knots...


As for the size gap I've been on a 7 10 17 zephyr quiver, if you like to ride powered, a local here around your weight has been out on a switchblade 8 whilst I've been riding my zephyr, I'm 90kgs and regularly ride the zephyr over 20knts, the new zephyr is very forgiving when overpowered , when it gets heavy at the bar it's a sign that it's time to swap,
glasstraxx
glasstraxx
WA
321 posts
WA, 321 posts
14 May 2014 3:11pm


thanks cauncy,,, i just went and did it! 2014 10m park n upgraded the board to a xcailiber 135x41
glasstraxx
glasstraxx
WA
321 posts
WA, 321 posts
19 Jun 2014 7:59am
Hi after some help on line tuning. I want to know how I can do this with the park bar. Is it as simple as following the cabrinha way? Tying line ends to a fixed point and leaning back on chicken loop & bar so the bar should be touching the chicken loop?

Cheers ash
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