All your gonna get is a new chicken loop safety for the time being. I'm guessing same bar for now

looking forward to the new chicken loop. It's not fun having to change over from suicide to safety as quick as you can when **** is about to hit the fan

nicor said...

I actually think it looks pretty good, also glad to see the red back which looks really good in the flesh. The only thing that bothers me a little is the patern of the colors looks like the number 4, also why does the kite size figure need to be so large.

It looks like a 4 because it is a 4. If you look closely it says 'C4' in big print

Would have been happier with the edge graphics

too much white in my opinion. edges look heaps better.

white also stains a lot more easily than other colours.

default said...

Looking at a 2 kite C4 quiver for me at 75kg in Perth

9/11 or 9/12 combo? Probably going to look at 2012's

From what I've found the 9/11 combo is a bit too close, although the other guys were in the 84-90kg range

For Perth at 75kg I'd go 8/11 in the 2012s - that will cover a massive range at your weight. If you're looking at 2013s, maybe even 7/10 as the word on the street is they'll have a bit more bottom end for a given size.

As for the graphics, I think it was smart to move beyond the design that served them well for several years. If you'd prefer kites with a fluoro-vomit look there are plenty of other brands who can provide it . Meantime Ozone continues to let the performance do the talking and let the graphics be a reminder of their philosophy of elegant simplicity, clarity of purpose, and precise execution.

Got a 2011 8/11 quiver, covers me from 15-30 at 70Kg on a 130 board.
Would love if they added a 6m to the range to cover the high 20s to high 30s, can't imagine I'd get too much use out of a 5m.

Another vote for a 8/11. Im 80Kg and ride a 134 tt and have had a 2011 8/11 quiver for the last 2 seasons. Could not be better spaced for me, great range for a 2 kite quiver.

In saying all this considering changing it up a bit for this season and trying a 7/10 C4 with a 13 or 15 edge. Need to demo a new 10 before i consider it further.

Would a 10m c4 see me through from 17-25 knots on the flat water at 85kg's, was wanting to buy a c kite to progress into unhooked trick's, looping ect, but can only afford one kite. Heard good things about this kite

PRAWNDOG said...

Would a 10m c4 see me through from 17-25 knots on the flat water at 85kg's, was wanting to buy a c kite to progress into unhooked trick's, looping ect, but can only afford one kite. Heard good things about this kite

At 85kg you could go 11m or 10m, depending on your board, but either would cover most of that range for sure. Assuming you're coming off a bow/delta, you'll probably take a session or two to dial in the bottom end of the C4 in terms of tuning the rear line lengths (start on the middle knot and see if you want to shorten them) and how you fly the kite. Your flying skills and fun factor will definitely go up as you learn to get the most from these machines.

Call me a bull**** artist, or whatever you will for the following, One light wind day at our local spot we had an fone demo day, i had an 11m C4 up was holding ground well, and there was a sponsored rider there with a 14m bandit that couldnt even get upwind, to hold ground in the first place.
Saying as an example of knowing how to use your kite can go a long way, especially with a C4 once you get it dialled you wont go back.
You dont need a super grunt machine to be efficient in light wind.

Yes I'd like to know that info as well as I have a 12m bandit five and they have a decent low end.

Hmm, based on Fawkner beacon readings, generally accurate for the spots I frequent, my bottom end for grovelling/holding ground on my 2012 12m C4 on a 50fifty (fair bit of rocker) is 14/15knots average and on the 9m about 17/18knots. Fun kicks in at 3knots (of average windspeed) above those numbers and continues well above that.

I'm no pro, but a decent intermediate and I'd be skeptical of numbers much lower than these. That said, it's always a tough call to get precise numbers, but you can always compare with other kites/riders in the same breeze and on that test the 2012 C4s go very well in the right hands - given that it is a performance Ckite optimised for turning and unhooked performance, and not a race/flat kite.

If I wanted pure low-end/m2 I'd ride Edges, but my priorities are turning and unhooked performance for all-round fun, so I ride C4s.

As ever, a demo long enough to dial the kite in will quickly sort the reality from the hype. See your nearest Ozone stockist

djdojo said...

andrewm said...

I'm 78ish kg and have 9/12 2012. These are not grunty kites. Spent a lot of time struggling on the 9m last summer.

Will see how much the 12m gets used this year..

Hi Andrew, I agree that the C4s are not grunty however ...

Grunt is not the only way of getting low end.

The other way is through efficiency of design (the C4s have this in spades) and a deft touch on the bar (C4 riders tend to learn this after a little while if they're coming from kites with pull-the-bar grunt).

I'm also 78kg and can stay upwind on my 9m C4 when some guys a similar size are dong the walk of shame on their 10m bows. Partly the difference is related to general skill level, but it's also about a refined flying technique which, when mastered, will give you access to the full performance and range of these kites, which is far beyond any of the "grunty" kites I've ridden.

Maybe hit the water with one of the C4 riders from AKS and see if they have any pointers to offer. You may also want to try shortening the rear lines a knot on the 9m especially on the 2012s. Hope this helps, dojo.

Going upwind is one thing, having enough power to actually do anything with the kite is another.

My point was the C4 requires some decent wind to generate enough power to unhook and pop which is what a large portion of the riders of this kite would be looking to do. Sure you can build up some apparent wind and fly downwind to get some pull from the kite but then you have to work upwind again.

Some kites, while having the same low end and same upwind ability just have that truck like pull that gives good pop in the lower end of the wind range. C4 is not that kite. Although it perfect for WA's higher winds which is why I have 3 of them.

^^^ I think you just answered the myths about the C4 and bottom end, its really about using the right sized kite in a given amount of wind. The kite performs brilliantly like you say if you fly it in the winds each size is suited for.

default said...

Is the new CL being released any time soon?

What he said..............^^^^