stamp said...

flexy board = less pop. simple

Not true, flex without control, all same flex throught the length of the board = true.
High end boards like Nobile T5 and NHP have controlled flex, which is flex in the tips, and stiffness in the middle, between your feet. This controlled flex gives even more pop.
So its more like Poppy Flex=More Poppy POP.

The corrugations as some poopy pimps are calling them, are combined with varying thickness throught the board and laminates/fibres under the top layer that give a very tightly and deliberate flex pattern, this years Nobile boards have outstanding pop, ask anyone thats ridden one. The NHP is an amazing board to ride, and looks hot as a bonus IMO.

Cya and

Goodwinds

McPop

What sized fins did you get on it? Mine came with verry small fins around 35mm, where as the NHP's are 55mm.

Same as the nhp 5 or 5.5 what ever they are.
Great grip for toe side riding but hard to switch in or out.

Kitepower Australia said...

stamp said...

flexy board = less pop. simple

Not true, flex without control, all same flex throught the length of the board = true.
High end boards like Nobile T5 and NHP have controlled flex, which is flex in the tips, and stiffness in the middle, between your feet. This controlled flex gives even more pop.

flex in the tips might make it easier to pop but it definitely won't give you more. a stiff board is harder to get the most from but will perform much better than a flexy one once you get it dialled in. why do you think wakeboards are stiff?

flex is a kiteboarding gimmick, it makes riding in chop more comfortable and gives softer landings on boards that have bugger all rocker.

a bit of flex is also great for sliding and pressing but you sacrifice pop.

waxman said...



If wake boards had great pop why dont they load and pop out on the flat before the wake.

they do. its called cable.

and there's no need to throw a tantrum every time somebody disagrees with you. i'm happy you found a board you like, but if you're gonna talk yourself and your gear up so much, expect people to pull you up on things and question your reviews.

stamp said...

waxman said...



If wake boards had great pop why dont they load and pop out on the flat before the wake.

they do. its called cable.

and there's no need to throw a tantrum every time somebody disagrees with you. i'm happy you found a board you like, but if you're gonna talk yourself and your gear up so much, expect people to pull you up on things and question your reviews.

I was just agreeing with you, you had some good points as to why a stiff board isnt that good for kitting.

So yo cant pop on a wake board, you need a cable to pull you out of the watter.LOL you will need a better argument than that.

AND ONCE AGAIN THIS POST IS CALLED NOBILE 50 FIFTY REVIEW. Yes I started this post with a board review, and have felt obligated to answer any questions about the board, if you want to pull me up i sugest you try the board and give some valid information. Not only this but if you read the post from the start you would notice i had a problem with the board which others have allso had and due to the review the problem has been fixed by Nobile. Isnt that a good thing, do you think that SS or LF would make changes to there boards strait away? If you dont like the post its easy to avoid just read the title. I will make it easy for you and others that have differing opinions about pop and start a new post. As this is not the place for it.

Isn't it ironic that the only 2 blokes that ride boots full time are the only 2 blokes questioning what is being said here and are on the same page as one another.

By the time I even bought into this you had gone on for 2 pages about how great this board is, when it got to the point that I thought I would make what was initally a playful jab of a remark, to offer a little perspective to some punter who might just buy one based on your remarks alone.

Reality is this barely moves the needle on my give-a-sh1t-ometer. If you want to buy a Nobile board, great, happy for you, in fact buy 10 for all I care. BUT, if you intend on buying THIS BOARD with the intention of riding it WITH BOOTS (which has been the point all along here for those that have lost focus) then I would urge you to try another board on the market that has some pedigree in manufacturing boards designed to be ridden in boots.

I don't need to ride it, given I understand what it is to ride in boots, to see certain fundamental characteristics that make a board conducive to doing so. It is obvious through remarks and reactions here by those that don't, that show that very lack of understanding. e.g. Grab handles on a boots board. Why, do you intend on undoing your laces mid air to do a one footer? or you can't carry a board without one. Market breakthrough, bang one on a surfboard. God knows how those blokes have coped all these years. The corrugations on the top of the board, which is ridiculous for mounting boots to as it will only promote heel and toe lift.

Anyway, that effort has used up all my interest in this little thread. But for those avid readers such as Dave Salz, perhaps in future rather than thinking it's all about egos, you might look a little closer and see that the points raised are more about offering some perspective. Particularly when, if I were to take a stab in the dark, that maybe, just maybe, Easto's Extreme Kites stocks Nobile. Shock, surprise! Who's pimping now McPop.

Enjoy kids.

waxman said...

stamp said...

waxman said...



If wake boards had great pop why dont they load and pop out on the flat before the wake.

they do. its called cable.

and there's no need to throw a tantrum every time somebody disagrees with you. i'm happy you found a board you like, but if you're gonna talk yourself and your gear up so much, expect people to pull you up on things and question your reviews.

I was just agreeing with you, you had some good points as to why a stiff board isnt that good for kitting.

So yo cant pop on a wake board, you need a cable to pull you out of the watter.LOL you will need a better argument than that.

AND ONCE AGAIN THIS POST IS CALLED NOBILE 50 FIFTY REVIEW. Yes I started this post with a board review, and have felt obligated to answer any questions about the board, if you want to pull me up i sugest you try the board and give some valid information. Not only this but if you read the post from the start you would notice i had a problem with the board which others have allso had and due to the review the problem has been fixed by Nobile. Isnt that a good thing, do you think that SS or LF would make changes to there boards strait away? If you dont like the post its easy to avoid just read the title. I will make it easy for you and others that have differing opinions about pop and start a new post. As this is not the place for it.

The big issue is you're claiming its a great boot board, and with some established brands out there making decent boot boards, you're always gonna have questions.

fozzy said...

Isn't it ironic that the only 2 blokes that ride boots full time are the only 2 blokes questioning what is being said here and are on the same page as one another.

By the time I even bought into this you had gone on for 2 pages about how great this board is, when it got to the point that I thought I would make what was initally a playful jab of a remark, to offer a little perspective to some punter who might just buy one based on your remarks alone.

Reality is this barely moves the needle on my give-a-sh1t-ometer. If you want to buy a Nobile board, great, happy for you, in fact buy 10 for all I care. BUT, if you intend on buying THIS BOARD with the intention of riding it WITH BOOTS (which has been the point all along here for those that have lost focus) then I would urge you to try another board on the market that has some pedigree in manufacturing boards designed to be ridden in boots.

I don't need to ride it, given I understand what it is to ride in boots, to see certain fundamental characteristics that make a board conducive to doing so. It is obvious through remarks and reactions here by those that don't, that show that very lack of understanding. e.g. Grab handles on a boots board. Why, do you intend on undoing your laces mid air to do a one footer? or you can't carry a board without one. Market breakthrough, bang one on a surfboard. God knows how those blokes have coped all these years. The corrugations on the top of the board, which is ridiculous for mounting boots to as it will only promote heel and toe lift.

Anyway, that effort has used up all my interest in this little thread. But for those avid readers such as Dave Salz, perhaps in future rather than thinking it's all about egos, you might look a little closer and see that the points raised are more about offering some perspective. Particularly when, if I were to take a stab in the dark, that maybe, just maybe, Easto's Extreme Kites stocks Nobile. Shock, surprise! Who's pimping now McPop.

Enjoy kids.

Fozzy, the problem you have is unless someone has ridden a board specifically designed for boots, and they're used to riding boots, they'll just assume thats what a good board feels like with boots on. I thought a Naish Thorn was a decent board for bindings when I first got boots.

For anyone to test this board realistically with boots, they have to first get out onto a boot board for a month so they're used to riding with boots, and then go out and test this board. Most people won't do that because they're just trying to boards.

I also don't believe you can interchange between a board with straps and a board with bindings easily either. I could when I was first riding straps, but now that I ride mostly boots, straps feel weird and the only time I use straps is when I'm riding in light wind on a big 140x43 that I have specifically for this purpose.

fozzy said...

I don't need to ride it, given I understand what it is to ride in boots, to see certain fundamental characteristics that make a board conducive to doing so. It is obvious through remarks and reactions here by those that don't, that show that very lack of understanding. e.g. Grab handles on a boots board. Why, do you intend on undoing your laces mid air to do a one footer? or you can't carry a board without one. Market breakthrough, bang one on a surfboard. God knows how those blokes have coped all these years. The corrugations on the top of the board, which is ridiculous for mounting boots to as it will only promote heel and toe lift.

How can you make any valid point about this board without taking it for a ride waxman has done a great job doing a reveiw on this board and like he said i am waiting for you to do a review on a board??????????

Bang head here------ www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=58082

Hi Charl,

Don't know where you ride in WA but you'll be able to demo plenty this summer...
Alessandro, Remi and Mike will be traveling the coast of WA but staying mainly around Perth for 3 months.
They should have some boards with staps (mike's and Alessandro's) or with boots (Remi) for you to try... Or go to Choicy, he might lend you his 50Fifty demo.

Just a note on the corrugated top, it is a direct result of the 3D Construction Concept and does not alter the boots fitting, If your boots are any size from 36 to a 46, the surface under the boot's contact point is perfectly flat.

Cheers,
B

Alessandro Lugaresi
Mike Blomvall
Remi Meum

Charl dv said...

i ride in perth.. wayy to much effort just mail me one

Good to see you are willing to give it a go and do a review

What board did you have your boots on previously, what happend to it?

What would be the best lf board for me to try with boots at 95kgs, would it allso be good for straps?

just rode the board - a 131 fifty50

Really soft and nice through the chop. Holds its edge great. Too grippy for my personal liking with the 55mm fins- definitely needs 35mm for my money.

I usually ride a 140 Cab Custom. Very different board but I liked it- definitely one you should try if you are looking for a comfortable board.

Hi, I'd like just to know how is the 50 fifty in rough choppy water or in little waves...
I know it's a flat water board...but official review says that "this is THE one board for all riders....carving, jumping, wakestyle, wave, whatever your tastes, the Nobile 50Fifty Pro will never fail to deliver the super smooth feeling"...IS IT TRUE????
That because flat water for me is almost like an utopia!!

Hey Waxi,

now I am feeling the love for my fifty 50 board completely now! Well except for the handle and got a rep looking into that for me.
Asked about small fins at the shop in Poole on sat. They arrived Tuesday morn and fitted them straight away.
It is truly awesome now. I don't want the nhp, I am happy to stick with just this one board.
Been out last three days on the trot with it and couldn't stop smiling.
Every thing I wasn't to sure of was corrected with the smaller fins. They allow it to carve round better, it breaks out to switch so smoothly now and allows you to slash it up wind quicker for pop as well. Fantastic!
Best board I have ridden so far out if the many I have tried.
The wind has been mental last three days and water in uk been pretty choppy and sloppy and this board does just mow over anything in it path easily. You don't feel anything in the knees at all and can ride for hours in comfort on one of these. I am using cabrinah sync pads And straps though and not the nobile ones.
Im impressed and very happy now any way. Thanks for the tip on the fins! I agree I have tried most of the nobile past boards and I think alot of them would benifit from the smaller fins as well.
Hmmm winder what the NHP 2010 is like with small fins???? Ha.