Newbie - Lessons learned so far...

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bigtone667
bigtone667
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7 Sep 2013 8:54pm
Mr Salty, Botany Bay was nice enough to give us 15/20 knot sou'easter.

Today"s challenge: strapless ....

Well I did it and through in a healside to toeside turn, some toeside and a toeside to healside turn. Lots of firsts.

I was very chuffed.

Thanks to all for the advice on the forums especially "lessons learned so far".
SaltySinus
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8 Sep 2013 6:43pm
Good work!
bigtone667
bigtone667
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16 Sep 2013 9:55am
Mr Salty, I scored a North Nugget over the weekend to counteract my 100kg (dry) of lard, and I would like to recommend the device as seriously awesome for a newbie wanting to do directional (strapped or strapless).

I was running a 17 metre kite in about 12/14 knots and had no issues cruising along and staying upwind.
SaltySinus
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16 Sep 2013 10:48am
Good work Salty. Yeah, I hear good things about the Nugget. For the interest in others reading this, I believe an interesting metric is the height of the board and the height of the rider. Care to disclose the height of the board and yourself?

I've gone for a 5'11" skillet which is the same height as me... which seems to work a treat.

What 17m kite are you riding?
Kazan
Kazan
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16 Sep 2013 12:12pm
Salty,
I think you should consider an IKO instructor course mate. It's all happening for you here. hehe
SaltySinus
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16 Sep 2013 12:37pm
Kazan said..

Salty,
I think you should consider an IKO instructor course mate. It's all happening for you here. hehe


Thanks Kazan,

you clearly haven't seen my lack of ability on the open water... Perhaps I could pursue a career as a KBing Agony Aunt?
bene313
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16 Sep 2013 11:58am
SaltySinus said..
I've gone for a 5'11" skillet which is the same height as me... which seems to work a treat.


I had a skillit for a while. Great strapless small wave/chop board, loved it. Gets difficult though when surf/wind is big.
SaltySinus
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16 Sep 2013 2:35pm
bene313 said..

SaltySinus said..
I've gone for a 5'11" skillet which is the same height as me... which seems to work a treat.


I had a skillit for a while. Great strapless small wave/chop board, loved it. Gets difficult though when surf/wind is big.


Cheers Bene, I'll bear that in mind. At the moment, it's more of a light wind tool for the bay... I've no surfing experience to speak of, but the one time I've been out on it, it's been fun!
bigtone667
bigtone667
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16 Sep 2013 10:33pm
SaltySinus said..

Good work Salty. Yeah, I hear good things about the Nugget. For the interest in others reading this, I believe an interesting metric is the height of the board and the height of the rider. Care to disclose the height of the board and yourself?

I've gone for a 5'11" skillet which is the same height as me... which seems to work a treat.

What 17m kite are you riding?


The nugget is 5 foot 5 inches long and 21 inches wide with squarish tail. Very flat through the length of the board. Four fins.

I am 6 foot 3 inches and 100kgs.

The kite is a North Dyno 17.
bigtone667
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16 Sep 2013 10:58pm
Today's lesson: you start work early so you can finish early to enjoy the approaching 25 knot noreaster. You get to botany bay with your 27 kites and 47 boards and realise you left you harness, safety leash and full wetsuit at home.... Feeling pretty stupid at this stage.

But you are dedicated. You justify your need to kitesurf and buy a new harness and leash (thanks Kitepower). You get back down to the water and kit up with 10 metres of kite, your new harness and the 2mm spring suit you had in the car.

Off you go, tear arsing across the bay and back again and you realise that more important than harness, leash and kite is the wetsuit. OMG .... I think I survived another twenty minutes before I lost all feeling and some body parts.

Lesson Learnt!!!!!
kitebt
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17 Sep 2013 9:58am
bigtone667 said..

Today's lesson: you start work early so you can finish early to enjoy the approaching 25 knot noreaster. You get to botany bay with your 27 kites and 47 boards and realise you left you harness, safety leash and full wetsuit at home.... Feeling pretty stupid at this stage.

But you are dedicated. You justify your need to kitesurf and buy a new harness and leash (thanks Kitepower). You get back down to the water and kit up with 10 metres of kite, your new harness and the 2mm spring suit you had in the car.

Off you go, tear arsing across the bay and back again and you realise that more important than harness, leash and kite is the wetsuit. OMG .... I think I survived another twenty minutes before I lost all feeling and some body parts.

Lesson Learnt!!!!!


Priceless!!!!! Some serious shrinkage going on there for sure.
SaltySinus
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17 Sep 2013 11:15am
Testicles spectacles wallet and watch, every time.

But hey, at least you got a new harness out of it. What did you go for?
bigtone667
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17 Sep 2013 6:25pm
SaltySinus said...
Testicles spectacles wallet and watch, every time.

I am ready to join the Bee Gees
But hey, at least you got a new harness out of it. What did you go for?



bigtone667
bigtone667
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17 Sep 2013 6:27pm
bigtone667 said...
SaltySinus said...
Testicles spectacles wallet and watch, every time.

I am ready to join the Bee Gees
But hey, at least you got a new harness out of it. What did you go for?






I am ready to join the Bee Gee's
bigtone667
bigtone667
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17 Sep 2013 6:36pm
bigtone667 said...
But hey, at least you got a new harness out of it. What did you go for?



I grabbed another seat harness (dakine). Coming from an abseiling background, I am quite comfortable with them.

BoardGirl
BoardGirl
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22 Sep 2013 10:05am
bigtone667 said..

Today's lesson: you start work early so you can finish early to enjoy the approaching 25 knot noreaster. You get to botany bay with your 27 kites and 47 boards and realise you left you harness, safety leash and full wetsuit at home.... Feeling pretty stupid at this stage.

But you are dedicated. You justify your need to kitesurf and buy a new harness and leash (thanks Kitepower). You get back down to the water and kit up with 10 metres of kite, your new harness and the 2mm spring suit you had in the car.

Off you go, tear arsing across the bay and back again and you realise that more important than harness, leash and kite is the wetsuit. OMG .... I think I survived another twenty minutes before I lost all feeling and some body parts.

Lesson Learnt!!!!!


Just having breakfast and catching up on the forum as I have been absent for a while and have to admit that your story gave me a good giggle

We have all been there!!!!!
SaltySinus
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25 Sep 2013 4:27pm
Welcome back BoardGirl. Your absence has been noticed, but I'm glad to say we will be taking no further action in this case ;-)

BoardGirl
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28 Sep 2013 9:17am
SaltySinus said..

Welcome back BoardGirl. Your absence has been noticed, but I'm glad to say we will be taking no further action in this case ;-)



Lol....only absent from the forums not from the water!!!! Had a great week kiting in Fiji through the winter and looking forward to an epic summer!!!!!
SaltySinus
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30 Sep 2013 11:53am
That's alright then! I'm glad to see you've had some time on the water!

Me and a mate kited all through winter (which is easier said than done in Victoria!) so looking forward to some more stable winds in summer!



BoardGirl
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1 Oct 2013 9:05pm
Salty, you're nuts kiting through winter down there...bbbrrrrr

Got out every chance I could through winter albeit with thermals and 3/2 wettie and that's in Brisvegas.

Ooohhh my news!!!! Raceboard....can go back and forth, long way from turning around, gybing etc but great fun.
SaltySinus
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2 Oct 2013 11:43am
BoardGirl said..

Salty, you're nuts kiting through winter down there...bbbrrrrr

Got out every chance I could through winter albeit with thermals and 3/2 wettie and that's in Brisvegas.

Ooohhh my news!!!! Raceboard....can go back and forth, long way from turning around, gybing etc but great fun.


Thanks... and I'd like to say it's not that bad... but it sometimes was! It certainly discourages you from trying new things (As the prospect of body dragging back up wind to get your board is not appealing!) but I'm glad of the experience.

3/2 wettie in Brissie? I thought wetsuits were band in Brisbane by the Tourism Australia...

Race board eh. What's the appeal (serious question, not having a stab). Is it the sensation of speed or ability to 'surf' on them, or both?

I'm still struggling with toe side so I'm a very long way off jibing! That said, I bought a directional also for the low wind days. Its soooo different to the Twintip

Good luck with it!

Kamikuza
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2 Oct 2013 12:42pm
Don't stand on your front foot when trying to gybe a directional.

"Lightest steering" also means "vaguest feedback" :(

Tune your QR instinct - yes, you can release it between the time you leave the ground and the time you hit it again. QRing might not save you a body slam, but while you're collecting your wits at least you won't have to worry about the kite...
SaltySinus
SaltySinus
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2 Oct 2013 3:54pm
Thanks Kamikuza.

I'm not entirely sure I follow the QR section, but it's certainly good advice to practice pulling activating the QR whilst on the beach so its second nature if / when needed.
BoardGirl
BoardGirl
QLD
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7 Oct 2013 9:49am
Hey Salty....I come from a competitive sailing background so I guess the allure of racing appeals hence the raceboard. Plus the exhilaration of speed and the challenge of riding fins.

Toeside...still isn't my strongest either but if you can carve turn you should be able to gybe on your directional. What did you get a surfboard or a free race???
SaltySinus
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7 Oct 2013 11:43am
Thanks BG. OK, I see, you're a speed-demon.

"... but if you can carve turn .." I can't. My problem/challenge is the right stance. I'm one of those annoy people one sees at the gym with fundamentally bad form and posture. I'll get there, I just need some more steady sea breezes (Winter in Victoria is all about wrestling with the gusts and keeping your kite from racing over your head and stalling).

The directional board was purchased for light wind days in Victoria when you can't get a TT going. Plus I've this quasi romantic nature of loading up the car and kitesurfing down the great ocean road at various points. It'll most likely never happen, but I'd like to at least become competent on a directional should an opportunity like that ever arise.
Dl33ta
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7 Oct 2013 11:58am
Maybe try it with the straps off Salty. I've found my natural stance on the board while strapless is miles away from where the straps were. Always felt a bit constrained and akward with the straps on, plus it was hard on the kankles when you fell off. Also when you run out of puff it's easier to move your back foot forward to get a bit of float going. I also found riding switch was just wrong, I'll persevere trying to get it but toeside is just a ton easier.
SaltySinus
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7 Oct 2013 2:34pm
Cheers Dl33ta. I'll persist. I think I'm pretty resolved to removing the rear strap of my directional, although I reserve the right to keep the straps on my Twin tip!

I'm also hopefully going wakeboarding in a couple of months, so I aspire to practice toe side on a twin tip (All be it, on a wakeboard).
wave6ft
wave6ft
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7 Oct 2013 11:37pm
Hi just wondering what you meant by if you can carve turn you should be able to gybe thanks
SaltySinus
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8 Oct 2013 11:30am
I believe it means a change of direction say from left to right, by moving from heal side to toe side, i.e. a 'slowish' transition where the board travels from left (going healside) to direct downwind to right (on toeside) and gives a big C shape...
wave6ft
wave6ft
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8 Oct 2013 9:38pm
ok i get what a carving turn is i can do them but cant gybe only tried surfboard a few times can do toe side finding it hard doing the water start once up ok but reading that i should be able to gybe but cant
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