ezza said...
Yeah you guys in WA may have wind but a busy day in Port Macquarie on the mid north coast of NSW is 6 kiters per km or 5. Great for wave count per session but not so much for show ponies.

haha, you guys in NSW have no idea! Port Macquarie is the equivalent of Gero or something with a population about 40k - country town. This thread is about a metro beach of a capital city which has a population getting close to 2 million and growing at an astronomical rate.

Number said...
I can understand that it's getting crowded in places such as the Pond or at Woodies where people gather up for the precious flat water but apart from that the coastline is massive. Anyone that don't mind some chop can just kite out a few 100 meters and get as much space as they want.

There is a few beaches where there is teaching going on but none of them offers something especially good. So why not just stay away from them? Cause beginners tends to come back to the beach where they learned(which I recon is a good thing cause then it's usually instructors around that can help out if something goes pear shaped)

And if you insist kiting on a beach full off learners, just launch and kite out a little. No need to show off next to the beach or in front of a body dragger that need to focus 100% on the kite to not crash it.


How long do you have to kite to forget how life was as a newbie? Give the learners some slack, they just wanna get in to the sport we all love.

I rather kite next to(and feel safer) a learner than a show pony....

^^ Edzackery!

I certainly don't insist on kiting next to a learner. The kiting area is pretty small at Mullaloo and a couple of people practicing body dragging combined with a few people doing the walk of shame with kites out to sea is enough to block the beach completely. That's without the guys standing with kites at twelve at the waters edge (just staring at them)for extended periods.

Combine the above with the latest craze " the euro tack" and it's pretty frustrating to anyone hoping to catch a couple of Mullas tiddlers or enjoy a nice carve on some of the flat water close to shore where a wave has just broken.

What's the answer?

Learn at Pinnaroo. Plenty of room up there for all the kite gazing and dragging you could ever want.
When you have the basics and can stay upwind without having to stare at your kite the whole time then come to the loo

Respect.... No euro tacking, no teaching your mates( when you clearly don't know yourself), No kite gazing, kite out over the water,

Ride in , do what you want ( jump, transition, search for a little weeny wave etc) then ride out. Keep away from people on the beach. Don't try anything stupid in with in double line length of the beach.

BTW that's not localism just recognition of the size constraints of the Mullaloo kiting area and the fact that kiting at Mullaloo was very nearly not allowed at all ( and that was before it got crazy)

Abuse it and we all lose it.

I certainly not encouraging irresponsible behavior. I kite mainly in the pond and there is certainly enough of it there(see separate thread...)

But I really don't like that "locals" think that they have rights over the newcomers(it's kind of ironic in a country where the natives have been pretty much extincted...) I recon most beginners that do something wrong listen up when you tell them something. Everybody don't have kiting friends that can help them out and advice(and some get's **** advice's) I never got a unfriendly word back(I have even got request for kite lessons after a few friendly words of instruction)

If u go down to woodies beach 1 there is some locals that find enjoyment in kiting close to bodydragging learners, I find that absolutely retarded. Woodies beach 1 is crowded of beginners and learners but don't offer anything especially good so why someone that actually have developed some kind of kite skills chose that beach goes over my head.


I think the only solution to the problem is communication. If that does not help there can be time for other actions. Maybe WAKSA can recommend a few certain beaches to beginners?

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If u go down to woodies beach 1 there is some locals that find enjoyment in kiting close to bodydragging learners, I find that absolutely retarded. Woodies beach 1 is crowded of beginners and learners but don't offer anything especially good so why someone that actually have developed some kind of kite skills chose that beach goes over my head.


Its almost directly onshore. To go out through all the beginners means you have to tack upwind to get by the schools. The angle means the experienced guys leave the shore and have their kites upwind of the beginners. Yes not the 40-50m clearance advised, but thats the take off spot, no schools have any permits to teach there, its a compromise. kind of a local rule.

Imagine if 2 french surfers spent all summer dropping in on locals at trigg point????? that's right, it wouldn't happen all summer, they'd be punched out after the second drop in.
You blokes need to grow some balls and sort it out. Not sure if you realise, but these french blokes aren't on Seabreeze, and wouldn't care if they were.
They are getting away with it because you blokes are letting them, you blokes need to manage your local spot, there need to be some rules that are enforced in a way these fellas will understand.
For F sake, taking their photo and pin it up??? what kind of solution is that, are you serious!

marno said...
apologies, that post was meant for the woodies thread. not sure how to delete.

Probably just a applicable to this thread too

stabber said...
You are all invited to south Sandwich.....At best we have one kiter and 3 Emperor Penguins sharing our vast kiting grounds.
I once saw an old bird with her top off there, it was the talk of the town....even tho she was 65. problem was I couldn't prove it so ppl thought I was a BS artist....

You see this man...?

This man is a mans man, this man would never be seen at your mully/pinny lady boy places..

This twattle about lady boys kiting in lady boy places has gone on for two pages...

Why be a lady boy, kite someplace else

I'm guessing hoping it was one of the regular offenders that deserved it.

the walks said...
o.k. in 7 years of kiting i witnessed a first today, saw a kiter get punched by a swimmer on the beach nevermind hay, kitestock next week

(speaking thru the nose) "please explain"?

Walks...pack your bags and head this way to Sunny Coast....You'll need a bigger kite though my friend!!!

Parf

shane75 said...

Skid said...

Number said...

^^ Edzackery!

problem solver lol

^^^^
Already around some spots in the EU.

10-20Euros/day...Would you pay?

yeah sorry eppo, the guy who got what he deserved was prob early 40's, his mate who started the whole thing was prob mid 20's.
Not sure if swimmer was to aggro but as a kiter we're bottom of the food chain so STAY CLEAR of all other beach uses, if and when we get to close, forget about ego's and chips on shoulder, defuse the situation with honest apologies

Two wrongs don't make aright.
if you throw the first or the second punch it is still assault.
A JEDI master once told me NEVER pick on some one you dont know.

eppo said...
The last two years has seen a tremendous increase in population even down my neck of the woods. Included in this is kiters and beach goers. More rats in a cage, gonna be more incidents.

About a year ago it was consistently ~1300 people a week moving to Perth. Slowed a bit now but still the highest in oz