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the walks
the walks
WA
448 posts
WA, 448 posts
29 Jan 2013 8:50pm
just a heads up for whom it may concern, my local spot has very nearly got to the point of no return, it was an absolute circus today, kites out of control everywhere, ocean, beach and dunes.
Most of the locals who fought to keep this beach open kite elsewhere these days and the ones that have stayed are i'm afraid to say, over it.
Many people who have rarely been seen took credit a couple of years ago for a so called win, i'm not sure but i met a local resident on my way off the beach today and i think a hornets nest is on the way.
Just putting it out there !!!!!!!!!!!!
bushdogg
bushdogg
3 posts
3 posts
29 Jan 2013 8:54pm
So what beach is it bro?
Mr float
Mr float
NSW
3452 posts
NSW, 3452 posts
30 Jan 2013 12:05am
its only a matter of time before its all over .Make hay while the sun shines
Lambroast
Lambroast
WA
177 posts
WA, 177 posts
29 Jan 2013 9:14pm
Yup absolutely agree...

All the hard work from those that know who they are......in vain so it seems..

Thanks a lot circus freaks...
tgladman
tgladman
WA
500 posts
WA, 500 posts
29 Jan 2013 9:54pm
Mullas or pinnas?
tightlines
tightlines
WA
3509 posts
WA, 3509 posts
29 Jan 2013 10:27pm
Mullas, it was crazy, outnumbered Pinnas about 10 to 1.

The restrictions imposed have meant that although the majority of Mullaloo beach is almost empty the kiters are all squeezed into one little area in the middle.

So many people doing the 'walk' with there kites out over the water.
Not only is it easier to walk back up the beach with it your kite the other side it also makes it easier for the kiters that are on the water.
MDSXR6T
MDSXR6T
WA
1019 posts
WA, 1019 posts
29 Jan 2013 10:33pm
I was at pinnaroo yesterday and i failed to find any enjoyment in the place.

Sure i may be very new and maybe it was the public holiday but barely room to set up / make mistakes, people kayaking through kiters, fishos setting up etc. So much ocean and everyone is on the same patch.

Yet i've sat and watched a few blokes at a beach further north over the past few weeks and it just different. The other day there was a bloke learning / crashing and the 2 or 3 other blokes out just seemed to understand and gave him all the space in the world.
bennie
bennie
ACT
1258 posts
ACT, 1258 posts
30 Jan 2013 10:48am
man perth sounds AWESOME..... not!
WAKSA
WAKSA
WA
813 posts
WA, 813 posts
30 Jan 2013 8:48am
I'd be interested to know how many people who kite there are actually WAKSA Members.

WAKSA do a lot of meeting with councils to keep the beaches open, our major drawcard being that WAKSA members have insurance. It take a lot of time from volunteers to meet with these councils and their rangers to keep your spot open. Remember we are all Volunteers and we are there helping you.

Whilst being a WAKSA member also helps with the resources to keep beaches open.
The option of WAKSA members only can be looked at.

Help your self and your spot by kiting safe and responsibly and don't ever kite between the flags.
AndyHansen
AndyHansen
WA
278 posts
WA, 278 posts
30 Jan 2013 8:58am
WAKSA said...
I'd be interested to know how many people who kite there are actually WAKSA Members.

WAKSA do a lot of meeting with councils to keep the beaches open, our major drawcard being that WAKSA members have insurance. It take a lot of time from volunteers to meet with these councils and their rangers to keep your spot open. Remember we are all Volunteers and we are there helping you.

Whilst being a WAKSA member also helps with the resources to keep beaches open.
The option of WAKSA members only can be looked at.

Help your self and your spot by kiting safe and responsibly and don't ever kite between the flags.


The cost of being a WAKSA member is little compared to the what could be in the event of an accident, paying a persons wage for several years because of sevre injury caused should be reason enough all coaches should promote students to join upon their 2nd or 3rd lesson.

Many of the 1st season kiters, fresh out of lesson wouldnt know about WAKSA. Is their any requirement for coaches to promote WAKSA membership?
Number
Number
WA
108 posts
WA, 108 posts
30 Jan 2013 9:06am
AndyHansen said...
Many of the 1st season kiters, fresh out of lesson wouldnt know about WAKSA. Is their any requirement for coaches to promote WAKSA membership?


I don't think so. I work as an instructor and I usually mention it to the students that it's a good idea to become a member but I don't know if they remember it afterwards.

I emailed WAKSA and asked if they have flyers or cards that I can hand out to my students but they never bothered to answer so I assume that's not a prioritized thing.

LostDog
LostDog
WA
445 posts
WA, 445 posts
30 Jan 2013 9:19am
MDSXR6T said...
I was at pinnaroo yesterday and i failed to find any enjoyment in the place.

Sure i may be very new and maybe it was the public holiday but barely room to set up / make mistakes, people kayaking through kiters, fishos setting up etc. So much ocean and everyone is on the same patch.

Yet i've sat and watched a few blokes at a beach further north over the past few weeks and it just different. The other day there was a bloke learning / crashing and the 2 or 3 other blokes out just seemed to understand and gave him all the space in the world.


NO.. it's as sh1t there if not worse, please stay at pinnaroo..
NoBS
NoBS
WA
908 posts
WA, 908 posts
30 Jan 2013 9:23am
Pinnas and Mullas have kite schools there so why complain about learners???

What do you expect??
juicerider
juicerider
WA
790 posts
WA, 790 posts
30 Jan 2013 10:13am
^^^
From what I've seen the problem is not with people that have gone through the kite schools there, but there has been such a large increase in tourists at these beeches with absolutely no kite skills and no local knowledge that they are a danger to themselves and others around them. The last 2 weeks has got noticeably worse.
default
default
WA
1255 posts
WA, 1255 posts
30 Jan 2013 10:31am
juicerider said...
^^^
From what I've seen the problem is not with people that have gone through the kite schools there, but there has been such a large increase in tourists at these beeches with absolutely no kite skills and no local knowledge that they are a danger to themselves and others around them. The last 2 weeks has got noticeably worse.


wonder if its got something to do with our endless wind of late (?).. people/tourists rock up down the beach, see kiters and think Ive gotta do that while Im here.. then think they have no time for lessons (or dont need them) so go buy some gear off gumtree and hit the beach for some carnage
eibwen
eibwen
WA
116 posts
WA, 116 posts
30 Jan 2013 10:54am
juicerider said...
^^^
From what I've seen the problem is not with people that have gone through the kite schools there, but there has been such a large increase in tourists at these beeches with absolutely no kite skills and no local knowledge that they are a danger to themselves and others around them. The last 2 weeks has got noticeably worse.


I have noticed towards the end of last week and more specifically the weekend the dynamics have changed, specifically with very new beginners, not sure what's changed ? but it seems to have been fairly normal since the start of the season until the other week.
surfzup
surfzup
WA
57 posts
WA, 57 posts
30 Jan 2013 11:27am
default
default
WA
1255 posts
WA, 1255 posts
30 Jan 2013 11:31am
^ you probably need to read the original post more closely
surfzup
surfzup
WA
57 posts
WA, 57 posts
30 Jan 2013 11:47am
default said...
^ you probably need to read the original post more closely


ha ha good point
tgladman
tgladman
WA
500 posts
WA, 500 posts
30 Jan 2013 2:01pm
^^mullas to Hillary's upwind? How long does that take? That's some serious quad burn right there. Nice work.
mazdon
mazdon
1199 posts
1199 posts
30 Jan 2013 2:08pm
upwinders are the new downwinders... get onto em!



on a serious note - is waksa going to provide any info about the upcoming forum between a coalition of local government authorities who want to implement "something" to be determined, that makes them feel more comfortable about kiting in their respective coastal areas?

hate the nanny state, but it is well and truly coming down on kiting!
seafever17
seafever17
WA
360 posts
WA, 360 posts
30 Jan 2013 2:52pm
Kited there yesterday and saw a bloody huge Tiger shark about two hundred meters off the beach.
Never again.
dbabicwa
dbabicwa
WA
808 posts
WA, 808 posts
30 Jan 2013 2:58pm
mazdon said...

hate the nanny state, but it is well and truly coming down on kiting!


For the last week and more I see all activity on the Pelican Point from my office desk.

And most of the time (atm as well), there are kites in the nature reserve behind the yellow bows.

It's funny tho, the DEC building with the DEC Rangers are just behind the bush on Peli and was just wondering when will they start handing some hefty infringements to this careless kiters?

Two white lite color kites are the main offenders. Right now at 1:57pm.

The sign is clear and understandable in all languages, I think:):


dafrog
dafrog
321 posts
321 posts
30 Jan 2013 3:05pm
seafever17 said...
Kited there yesterday and saw a bloody huge Tiger shark about two hundred meters off the beach.
Never again.


at pinnas? I saw yesterday something brown-ish and flat, no fins I could see must have been 3 meter long near the light... guessed it may have been a manta ray at the time but went away anyhow... seals in this area so snacking ground for anything predatory animals...
bene313
bene313
WA
1347 posts
WA, 1347 posts
30 Jan 2013 3:56pm
gmd said...
We also see regular downwinders going through the flags at the surf club.
......
but quite often see kiters going through the waves all the way downwind.


Whoa, whoa, slow down there gmd.... there are waves at Mullaloo?
the walks
the walks
WA
448 posts
WA, 448 posts
30 Jan 2013 4:28pm
just going back to the orginal post, no fingers were pointed, just putting it out there . For your info, Kite boarding Perth, the school at Mullaz is very quiet, only 1 instructor working at his own pace As for waksa members, no idea.
Most of the incidents i'm seeing, repeat offenders who think they know better.
As for newbies being the problem, complete boll**ks, any kiter with a year under his belt can spot a newbie and SHOULD stay clear and let them learn unless they need help or advice
Happy kiting
the walks
the walks
WA
448 posts
WA, 448 posts
30 Jan 2013 5:32pm
WAKSA said...
I'd be interested to know how many people who kite there are actually WAKSA Members.

WAKSA do a lot of meeting with councils to keep the beaches open, our major drawcard being that WAKSA members have insurance. It take a lot of time from volunteers to meet with these councils and their rangers to keep your spot open. Remember we are all Volunteers and we are there helping you.

Whilst being a WAKSA member also helps with the resources to keep beaches open.
The option of WAKSA members only can be looked at.

Help your self and your spot by kiting safe and responsibly and don't ever kite between the flags.


Just because someone may or may not be a waksa member does not mean they are not intitled to an opinion or to kite !!!!!!!!!
Having been a member for several years i wonder if its" no fee, no listen ", i certainly hope not for everyones sake.
As volunteers waksa has always in my opinion done a fantastic job, over the years i may or may not agree with some of there actions but once again, thats my opinion.
Please read my original post again and take this as a heads up as it was intended..
stabber
stabber
NSW
1114 posts
NSW, 1114 posts
30 Jan 2013 8:50pm
You are all invited to south Sandwich.....At best we have one kiter and 3 Emperor Penguins sharing our vast kiting grounds.
I once saw an old bird with her top off there, it was the talk of the town....even tho she was 65. problem was I couldn't prove it so ppl thought I was a BS artist....
ezza
ezza
NSW
561 posts
NSW, 561 posts
30 Jan 2013 9:01pm
Yeah you guys in WA may have wind but a busy day in Port Macquarie on the mid north coast of NSW is 6 kiters per km or 5. Great for wave count per session but not so much for show ponies.
Underoath
Underoath
QLD
2434 posts
QLD, 2434 posts
30 Jan 2013 8:51pm
ezza said...
Yeah you guys in WA have all wind and hundreds of remote kms north of the CBD. A busy day in Port Macquarie on the mid north coast of NSW is 6 kiters per km or 5. North of Perth it's 2 kiters per 10kms2. Totally rocking for wave count per session but if you want to show pony there is always pinneroo.


tightlines
tightlines
WA
3509 posts
WA, 3509 posts
30 Jan 2013 10:50pm
seafever17 said...
Kited there yesterday and saw a bloody huge Tiger shark about two hundred meters off the beach.
Never again.


Think it's the same one that has been around a bit lately just out behind the wave line, I landed right on top of it the other day, I could see it about a metre below the surface on the way down from a jump but couldn't stop gravity, don't know who got the biggest fright.
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