Because it looks cool

I thought you attach it to the towball of your car

true suicide leash is attached to chicken loop then around your neck,unhook and go for true kiteloop with short lines

staunchy said...

true suicide leash is attached to chicken loop then around your neck,unhook and go for true kiteloop with short lines

that's called the INXS front man Michael Hutchece trick [}:)]

After reading about the KS 2008 antics I need a 3rd clip to attach Matty to Slave before nudging off the pier!

How to make an entrance eh Matty?


Slave why are you SO OBSESSED with how other people ride? Peeps wear safety leashes or 'death leashes' if you prefer. The pros n cons could go on all day. GET OVA IT!

^^^

Yes, but somehow that seems to pop out every now and again. Thats why i put my leash on my loop, so if i ever pull the ol' quick release it releases both. Not that I have done it yet.

What i think is worse is that little hook for connecting your leash to so when you pull the quick release it realeases to your leash. Thats when you get pulled backwards and can't reach the clip to undo.

mattyjee said...

^^^

Yes, but somehow that seems to pop out every now and again. Thats why i put my leash on my loop

... So Matt,
You attach your death-leash to the chicken-loop only because your donkey-dick is ineffective ??
Wouldn't it be better and safer to have a fail-safe donkey-dick and then leash yourself to the flagging-ring ?

and i dont want a fail safe donkey dick incase of a real bad stack. at least when i stack it hard my chicken loop comes out and it gives me a sec or too to gather my thoughts and pull the bar in without getting teabagged or dragged uneder water.

From a safety stand point I would of course prefer to connect my leash to the flagging line and not the chicken loop, but on my first kite the ‘flagging ring’ was on a trailing edge line so it was positioned at end of the bar, and after crashing, the safety leash would regularly end up twisted around the chicken loop / centre lines etc. and it seemed to me that being in this situation could possibly lead to disaster? So then I’m in the water trying to figure out how to untwist myself while keeping control of the kite, or disconnect the leash from the flagging ring, untwist it from the chicken loop/centre lines, and then reconnect it to the flagging ring. (Either situation being quite difficult for a noob) Once I had some 'decent' control of the kite, I then switched to connecting the leash to the chicken loop, to avoid the ‘twists’.
I’m using an IDS bar most of the time now, so no more dramas on that front, which is just fine with me.

SammyJ said...

Q. What do you connect your death-leash to ?

A. below the bar trim/depower line....

Is that acceptable in the eyes of the kiting gods The ad in the mag say that will give me 90% depower for SLE kites bargain.

I always thought you where going on about leggy/leash in the past, in that regard I wear a 6fter only in certain conditions.

I have never understood this, why would you attach it to your below the bar trim line, it will still have the same depower as when you were hooked in and let go of the bar(unless you had a stopper ball) and the same as attaching it straight to the chicken loop. Disadvantage being the bar ends up twice as far away, and u have to feed the trim line back out.

If you don't unhook you should use a decent spreader bar/donkey dick combo to keep the chicken loop hooked in, and attach the kite leash to a functioning safety.

Thanks
Matt
Edit: Sammy, maybe you were being sarcastic?

vishy said...

SammyJ said...

Q. What do you connect your death-leash to ?

A. below the bar trim/depower line....

Is that acceptable in the eyes of the kiting gods The ad in the mag say that will give me 90% depower for SLE kites bargain.

I always thought you where going on about leggy/leash in the past, in that regard I wear a 6fter only in certain conditions.

I have never understood this, why would you attach it to your below the bar trim line, it will still have the same depower as when u were hooked in and let go of the bar(unless you had a stopper ball) and the same as attaching it straight to the chicken loop. Disadvantage being the bar ends up twice as far away, and u have to feed the trim line back out.

If you don't unhook you should use a decent spreader bar/donkey dick combo to keep the chicken loop hooked in, and attach the kite leash to a functioning safety.

Thanks
Matt
Edit: Sammy, maybe you were being sarcastic?

No sarcasim at all.

Easy explaination really, if I do need to or accidently eject from the kite and I'm attached suicide to the chicken loop like everyone else I simply lose my kite. Attaching to the trim/depower is the most logical place for me to attach, I'm not about to go putting the mini line on. Obviously you don't have this set up, relaunch is simple, although not as simple as suicide. All you do is hook back in, pull the rope out the cleat and feed it out slowly power up the kite off you go. Tooo easy

Even on the odd occasions I'll go do flat water freestyle stuff I still attach that way.

Nearly everyone that ride LF kites I know ride them that way.

Hope that helps
Sam

Whatever you connect your leash to....please test it, and preferably at a safe location. Run away kites are dangerous to others.

Just from experience you hardly ever just brake one line, and if it was going to go into a deathlooping sequence that 1 line left on one side would most likely break if it was windy enough to really drag you. Not to mention I have seen flagging safetys fail and if it was honking enough to drag you through the car park sometimes in these winds flagging can send the kite into a psuedodeathloop circles and drag you more than you would think. For me the safest set up is 5th line.

Do folks still connect their death-leashes to a centreline flagging ring ?
The Industry still hasn't designed a swivel that works...
Centrelines cross-up and flagging becomes a log-jam.
The whole kite-leash concept is a mess.

whatthe said...
Kite still deathlooping so you pull your quick release (at chicken loop) for full depower, kite is still attached to the safety leash and possibly deathlooping.

No.... ^^^
Kites flying off one line don't death-loop.
Kites flying off one line just spiral with little or no power.