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burnsy11

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burnsy11

WA, 122 posts

12 Dec 2013 2:12pm

Haydn24 said..

rphi6876 said...

Haydn24 said..

burnsy11 said..
Yeah the 18 yo just recently & tragically - but now give me the numbers of Shark attack fatalities in the last 20 years for the whole east coast (QLD,NSW & VIC).
Your location lists you as being in QLD - worry about your own backyard.

Couldn't find previous 20 yrs but its still FAR higher over ALL of the states as you requested. Looks like we have for more to worry about than you, add in crocs, snakes and stingers....

Your table is wrong. From the FAQ of your website "In most scavenged bodies incidents there is no way to prove if the person was or wasn't alive at the time" - so we just include any carcass found in the water with some bite marks. ie. fishermen who died from hypothermia and eventually a shark finds the carcass will be considered as a fatal shark attack.

Here are more realistic figures:
taronga.org.au/conservation-and-science/australian-shark-attack-file

Good point. 20 deaths in WA over the last 200+ years. About one every 10 years, and you want to wipe them out from your coastline? Disgraceful.

Yeah - 12 or so of them in WA over the last Decade or so - Id say we have have problem due to Sharks being protected since 2000. Your figures are misguided & by the way we are not wiping them out just controlling small areas of the coast that are used by human beings using these beaches ( i assume you are one....maybe not)

rphi6876

29 posts

rphi6876

29 posts

12 Dec 2013 2:36pm

Maybe Vic Hislop should move over to WA - he will fix your problem in no time

thescuttlefish.com/2011/08/rogue-shark-hunter-vic-hislop-on-a-mission-from-god-to-search-and-destroy/

www.thecud.com.au/html/story23.htm

PoSM

13 posts

PoSM

13 posts

12 Dec 2013 5:43pm

I never thought Western Australia was full of so many massive pussies! You should listen to yourselves "Waah. I done seen two of them big fishes in 3 months! Kill them all!" "It's a massive WIN for the state. We done all been saved!"

Pathetic.

WC Canvas

55 posts

WC Canvas

WA, 55 posts

12 Dec 2013 6:15pm

I"m pretty sure the new strategic approach from the government is not to wipe sharks out??? Why does everyone think that its all or nothing??

From what I am reading in articles is that Drum baits are going to only catch sharks that come close to swim beaches, not every shark in the whole entire ocean "that's it". And they will only be killed if over 3 meters long. Hardly any sharks will be harmed really - its just a starting measure to try and mitigate (problem animals). I am sure that this will not make them extinct.

It's been set in place now so lets see what happens over the summer and then comment appropriately. I actually do want to keep all my toes - just saying.

MrFreeze

292 posts

MrFreeze

292 posts

12 Dec 2013 6:55pm

eppo said..

Haydn24 said..

eppo said...

Haydn24 said..

stoked2surf said..

statistics wise i would be interested what a sharks chance of being killed are... 1 in 1000? 1 in 10?
i mean humans still kill up to 750,000 sharks per day.
and yes you are an idiot for thinking these drum lines don't affect the shark population. while it may not decrease it, it will certainly stop it from recovering.

all these ridiculous arguments, media hype and politically manipulated bills are the reason i gave up marine sciences. humanity, take note, the ecosystem will turn on you.

Yup, currently at JCU in marine biology... the cavemen really ruin it for this sector

how old are you hadyn?

20 mate

Haydn everyone is entitled to their opinion as you are. The reason I asked is I did an triple major in biological and environmental science as well as extractive metallurgy. I was 20 once and exposed to the philosophies and teachings you are now experiencing. So I do understand where you are coming from.

But I will say with time, a wife and two small children the 'caveman' you mentioned does get stronger and that's purely biological, the need to protect your DNA. You cannot take on some of the teachings and not the others. We are in a continual game of life and death and everything is trying to survive as you are and in the end will kill if need be. You cannot escape this biological premise. When ideology meets reality things change. Symbiotic relationships are purely selfish in intent that just work, if they don't one will destroy the other if need be.

Hence it's is such a grey area this one, and I see both extremes in terms of point of views here. More research is needed even in he he name of another PR arm in the governments armour.

Hmmmmmm Mega qualified.

SaveTheWhales

1908 posts

SaveTheWhales

WA, 1908 posts

12 Dec 2013 9:43pm

burnsy11 said..

SaveTheWhales said..

Sorry if Ive missed something here... but sharks are fairly clever and when you let off bait drums relatively close to shore it teaches them to 'Peruse' the area...

nice to see theyve learnt fairly quick down scarbs

An eye for an eye + an arm or a leg

What a nob !! Go bat off over a whale carcass !

Oh Burnsy your my New Hero - such beautifully worded love messages make me all gooey

do you need a Hug

P.s if you cant take it ... try some Man lube

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