Scammer in the Buy & Sell..

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kitecrazzzy
kitecrazzzy
WA
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3 May 2008 5:30pm
if you get fire fox you can also run "noscript" as an add on. it's annoying as hell when you first get it but once your "white list" has been made there are not too many times you have to worry about it.
on a few occasions it has saved me from spy ware or other stuff but im not to smart with computers to understand the full lingo
General
General
WA
471 posts
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4 May 2008 12:06am
I just got an email through seabreeze just then not sure what shes on about and i dont have any thing up for sale:

Hello,
Nice to meet you, how is everything, hope all is well with you. My name is marisa mayor,
I found your contact after reading your profile I picked interest to contact you. I've something very important which I would love to share with you privately, therefore, would advise you to kindly write me back on:(Her email) so that I'll give you details. Waiting anxiously for your anticipated corporation,
Yours,
marisa
Email. her email

Any one know what shes on about, is it a scam?
nebbian
nebbian
WA
6277 posts
WA, 6277 posts
4 May 2008 12:20am
She gets around... sent me the same thing.

Surely a scam.
cwamit
cwamit
WA
1194 posts
WA, 1194 posts
4 May 2008 8:30am
looks like grandmother is trying to pick up again..sorry guys just ignore her.
laurie
laurie
WA
3889 posts
WA, 3889 posts
4 May 2008 11:16am
Yep .. more spam. All removed.
snoidberg
snoidberg
QLD
527 posts
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4 May 2008 5:38pm
awwh i was hopeing to get laid
tmiddled
tmiddled
NSW
253 posts
NSW, 253 posts
4 May 2008 10:03pm
Choady:

They use your account details to keep them self anonymous. Lets say I get an email from some guy that tells me to invest in their business and I will double my account in 5 days. I stupidly fall for it, and the 'businessman' gives me your account details so to keep himself annoymous. He gets you to re-transfer the excess after postage (probably a few grand) into Western Union, and wham bam thank you man, my money has gone off to Africa never to be seen again. Your just a pawn in his scam.

Your have your money for your kite, Marisa, has his 2 grand, and I'm flat broke.
Adz
Adz
WA
120 posts
Adz Adz
WA, 120 posts
5 May 2008 9:28am
Just got this email sent to me...fits the bill I would say!...Suckers Welcome.

Its from: Tamra Hess [templenn@quikcat.com]


Grandy's Epack Corporation is announcing about a job opening in the company. The software developer now having their clients in different globe spots located needs Financial Representatives to help handle money flow and save both time and efforts of their clients. No upfront paying, you will never be asked for a dime out of your pocket. You get paid instantly in amount of 5% out every transaction operation.

Benefits listed:
-Steady income in amount of 3500 $ minimum on a monthly basis. -5-6 hours a week! That's all you have to spent on doing this job. You can easily combine this job with your another one.

Requirements:
-Basic idea in Accounting
-Regular internet Access
-Ability to accept payments using your BANK ACCOUNT
-Ability to resend money VIA WESTERN UNION

If feel qualified ,please, attach the following info to start up with:
- Fist Name:
- Last Name:
- Age:
- Sex:
- State, City, Zip:
- Phone number( home and cell):
- Valid email address:

Please, contact us for the first time via this email address: epackstaff@gmail.com , in the subject field put: "Interested". Use only mentioned email address, otherwise we'll fail to receive your response.
echostorm
echostorm
QLD
1245 posts
QLD, 1245 posts
5 May 2008 11:34am
bigmark100 said...

if you have some spare time on your hands.....
read the stuff this guy has put some of the scammers though.... its hilarious.



he's actually managed to get scammers to get tattoos, pose in the most ridiculous outfits, send him money, and even continue chatting up marilon manson, despite him sending pictures of what "she" looks like.....classic.


www.419eater.com/html/trophy_room.htm




Bigmark that site is farking hillarious... the **** these nOObs do, hahaha the hunter becomes the hunted lol.
tmiddled
tmiddled
NSW
253 posts
NSW, 253 posts
6 May 2008 10:06am
Echo,

Get started :) I believe Tamra Hess is waiting for a baiting.

Something along the lines of:

Dear Tamra.,

I received a copy of your email and am very interested in your proposal. Although I already have a steady income of nearly 10 000 dollars a week selling various products to teenagers, I am afraid that it is a risky business and thus am after further avenues to explore.

What is the capital cost required to start up one of these buisnesses? I have the capacity to put forward between 10 000 & 50 000 advance if the opportunity seems worthwhile. Please email me with more details and your full contact details/company and a scanned copy of your passport.

My name is Ace Vetura Pet Detective from Miami Florida.
GreenPat
GreenPat
QLD
4103 posts
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6 May 2008 12:16pm
Or you could write it in Nigerian English:

Dear Tamra.,

I am receive copy of your email and am very interested in you proposal. Although I already a steady income of nearly 10 000 dollars in week selling various products at teenagers, I am afraid that to a risky business and thus am after further avenues to explore.

How are the capital cost required to start up one these buisnesses? I have the capacity put forward between 10 000 & 50 000 advance to an opportunity seems worthwhile. Please to email with more details and your full contact details/company and a scammed copy of your passport.

My name are Ace Vetura Pet Detective from Miami Florida.
Adz
Adz
WA
120 posts
Adz Adz
WA, 120 posts
6 May 2008 4:12pm
GreenPat said...

Or you could write it in Nigerian English:

Dear Tamra.,

I am receive copy of your email and am very interested in you proposal. Although I already a steady income of nearly 10 000 dollars in week selling various products at teenagers, I am afraid that to a risky business and thus am after further avenues to explore.

How are the capital cost required to start up one these buisnesses? I have the capacity put forward between 10 000 & 50 000 advance to an opportunity seems worthwhile. Please to email with more details and your full contact details/company and a scammed copy of your passport.

My name are Ace Vetura Pet Detective from Miami Florida.


Geez Greenpat, that mustve hurt doin all that crap England writin stuff. I know it bugs the cr3p outv u.
GreenPat
GreenPat
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4103 posts
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7 May 2008 2:22pm
Adz said...

Geez Greenpat, that mustve hurt doin all that crap England writin stuff. I know it bugs the cr3p outv u.


Did you like the way I spelt 'scanned'? I thought it added a nice touch.

walshd
walshd
SA
601 posts
SA, 601 posts
7 May 2008 2:28pm
On another note, have you guys noticed some of the false advertising on the underground boards in the buy and sell.

I guess it is an honest mistake, but I see it all the time when people advertise their 06' boards as an 07' board.

Another good one is advertising 05' yargas as 06' kites. 0r 05' Fuels as 06' kites.

I'm sure there are plenty of other contenders here too, its just the UG boards and the fuels are easy to spot with their colour scheme

I know its picky, but 1 year makes a BIG difference when buying some gear.
Paul1
Paul1
QLD
1011 posts
QLD, 1011 posts
7 May 2008 3:15pm
walshd said...

On another note, have you guys noticed some of the false advertising on the underground boards in the buy and sell.

I'm guess it is an honest mistake, but I see it all the time when people advertise their 06' boards as an 07' board.

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I think its an honest mistake with the Underground boards, as they are one of the only companies that actually release their 2008 boards in 2008, were as most kite companies can be up to 6 months early on releasing the next years models. I bought an 06 Flx in 07 thinking it was an 07 board.
walshd
walshd
SA
601 posts
SA, 601 posts
7 May 2008 3:37pm
Yep I agree with you on the UG boards, but its no excuse for the fuels and the yargas.

I prob shouldnt post pictures like this but there are no names or email address, and its a prime example of my concern:
This should really be 05' fuel, $450

braaad
braaad
QLD
82 posts
QLD, 82 posts
7 May 2008 4:37pm
www.thescambaiter.com is another hilarious site. They mostly do freight baits, which involves tricking the scammers into paying huge sums of money for freight on supposed laptops etc. Upon arrival they open it up to find a huge box of junk.

The stuff the scam baiters make them do is hilarious. Here is one of the videos the owner of the site has made.

walshd
walshd
SA
601 posts
SA, 601 posts
7 May 2008 4:15pm
Then wouldnt these 'scambaiters' be making a lot of money out of these scammers because I bet they dont pay them their money back?
braaad
braaad
QLD
82 posts
QLD, 82 posts
7 May 2008 4:50pm
walshd said...

Then wouldnt these 'scambaiters' be making a lot of money out of these scammers because I bet they dont pay them their money back?


When they go to pickup their package they have to pay DHL the postage charges before they will give them their boxes of junk. The only people profiting from it is the freight company.
walshd
walshd
SA
601 posts
SA, 601 posts
7 May 2008 4:42pm
What about these seabreeze type scammers where they transfer too much money into your account and they want you to transfer the excess to a western union account.

If you just kept the excess, then could they do anything about it?

And dont the scammers have to pay for the laptop (box of junk) before they recieve it. So the scambaiters are getting paid the price of a laptop?
braaad
braaad
QLD
82 posts
QLD, 82 posts
7 May 2008 5:44pm
walshd said...

What about these seabreeze type scammers where they transfer too much money into your account and they want you to transfer the excess to a western union account.

If you just kept the excess, then could they do anything about it?

And dont the scammers have to pay for the laptop (box of junk) before they recieve it. So the scambaiters are getting paid the price of a laptop?


In regards to the scammers emailing seabreeze members, from what I have read it sounds like they are laundering dirty money. Western Union is untraceable.

The only similar type of scam I have heard of is where they send you a cheque for say $10000 and tell you that you can keep $1000 and send them $9000. The only catch is they need the $9000 within 2 days for "payment" for something else. A cheque won't clear in 2 days so you transfer them $9000, 5 days later the cheque bounces and you are in the hole $9000.

As far as keeping the excess they probably wouldn't do anything about it because if it's dirty money they wouldn't want to involve the authorities. If illegal money traced to your account if you can prove you had nothing to do with the wrong doings to start with, you still have to give the money back.

In reply to the scambaiters, to put it simply (each case is different) they make the scammer think they are sending them stuff for free. So lets say the scammer wants $10000, you would say something like I don't have any spare cash at the moment, but what I do have is a pallet of new laptops (it obviously has to be more convincing that this) would you accept that for payment, you will just have to pay for the postage as like i said i have no cash.

They let the scammers contact them, they don't try to reverse scam them by doing exactly the same as them, they turn it around and make them think their scam is succesful.

I'm not that great at explaining stuff as you can tell :p

Go here for more detailed info on these type of scams, you may even find out exactly what the seabreeze mailers are up to en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance_fee_fraud
oneupp
oneupp
24 posts
24 posts
7 May 2008 7:09pm
braaad said... In regards to the scammers emailing seabreeze members, from what I have read it sounds like they are laundering dirty money. Western Union is untraceable.


Several years back, a friend in the US decided to follow through on one of these scams. He knew what to expect so never paid a penny to anybody for anything.

He had office furniture for sale (for about $1,500).... someone on another continent responded to buy the furniture. It went approximately like this:

"I'll send you a bank check for $6,000. You pay my shippers $2,000 for packing and shipping and you keep $1,000 extra for your troubles. Please send the $1,500 balance to me by Western Union."

My friend responded with fake information but a REAL mailing address. A week later, a credible looking bank check arrived in the mail. The check was drawn on a US bank, the Bank of Texas (or something). My friend called the bank, and they said, "Oh, we haven't issued bank checks for 15 years. But we're seeing many fake ones now."

(Apparently, this credible bank check had been created on a high quality, double-sided color printer using Photoshop.)

A week after that, the scammers started emailing my friend, "Hey, where's the money you were supposed to send by Western Union?"

Friend replied, "I have a bank check here for you from the Bank of Texas. Please send me your name and address so I can mail you the check."

End of story. Scammer gone, fake check framed and hanging on friend's wall, furniture sold to someone who paid cash.

~~~~~~

Bottom line: I don't think these scams involve laundering stolen money (scammers don't have any kind of money, dirty or clean). It revolves around a fake check. If you deposit the check into your bank account, it will take up to three weeks before your bank discovers that the $6,000 check is fake. Meanwhile, you've sent $1,500 of your own real dollars to Nigeria by Western Union.

Your bank will come back to you for the $6,000.

It is just as you described.
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