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terminal
terminal
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1421 posts
25 Dec 2011 4:39am
Chris6791 said...

^^^Not really, I (and others) that clip onto the ring on the IDS line completely ignore the velcro, turns it back into a two stage release. Why bypass a safety release by clipping onto the ring only to re-engage it by then wrapping it in the velcro?

I'm personally not a big fan of the velcro release on my 2009 IDS, not because it releases prematurely (subject of the thread) but because if I've dumped the QR above the chicken loop and the kite is still loaded up how the heck am I going to reach the velcro on the IDS at the far end of a leash under tension? If I have to dump the kite completely I'm going to go for the QR on the leash and ignore the velco release anyway.

Obviously safety is a big thing, but (unless I'm missing something) why introduce safety releases that can't be reached?

I flew a mate's kite on the beach the other day, the wasn't much wind and we were killing time, it had little release tabs on the steering lines just above the bar and another release tab above the trim lines for the front lines, this is along with the chicken loop QR and the QR on the leash. Does anyone know what the value/intent of this is? Surely if you start releasing individual lines you risk throwing the kite into something uncontrollable and dangerous?


If I was going to clip onto the IDS ring, I wouldn't use the velcro, but you would need the donkeydick to keep the chickenloop on the hook. I'd also tie a knot or two above the ring to make sure the black sheath on the IDS line is entered into the primary Q/R, just to make sure it didn't snag.

I use the Cabrinha standard system, so if I pop the Q/R the IDS is still attached at the velcro which is easily reached because the donkeydick keeps the chickenloop on the hook. So there is no problem reaching it.

Chris6791
Chris6791
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WA, 3271 posts
25 Dec 2011 8:34am
Yup, I'm awake now, I posted that at the end of a very long day. I should have looked at my gear before that post, forgot the velcro is on the side of the chicken loop below the QR. Thanks Terminal.
tightlines
tightlines
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3509 posts
WA, 3509 posts
25 Dec 2011 8:40am
Chris6791 said...

^^^Not really, I (and others) that clip onto the ring on the IDS line completely ignore the velcro, turns it back into a two stage release. Why bypass a safety release by clipping onto the ring only to re-engage it by then wrapping it in the velcro?

I'm personally not a big fan of the velcro release on my 2009 IDS, not because it releases prematurely (subject of the thread) but because if I've dumped the QR above the chicken loop and the kite is still loaded up how the heck am I going to reach the velcro on the IDS at the far end of a leash under tension? If I have to dump the kite completely I'm going to go for the QR on the leash and ignore the velco release anyway.

Obviously safety is a big thing, but (unless I'm missing something) why introduce safety releases that can't be reached?

I flew a mate's kite on the beach the other day, the wasn't much wind and we were killing time, it had little release tabs on the steering lines just above the bar and another release tab above the trim lines for the front lines, this is along with the chicken loop QR and the QR on the leash. Does anyone know what the value/intent of this is? Surely if you start releasing individual lines you risk throwing the kite into something uncontrollable and dangerous?


I'm guessing that they might have been Oh Sh1t handles, not designed to release the line but to hang onto (or clip onto) when you release everything else, so that the kite will flag onto one back line, a lot of kites used to have them but not many do these days.

kiteboarder.co.uk/kitesurfing/oh-****-handle-18040
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