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Lazarus
Lazarus
160 posts
160 posts
27 Feb 2011 9:23pm
The action is at the end of the vid. I was on the wave first and closest to the breaking section. I could have pushed my bottom turn at about 53 secs, but I did not want a line tangle. He is a toeside riding Italian tourist! You be the jury...

Lazarus
Lazarus
160 posts
160 posts
27 Feb 2011 9:29pm
sorry, at about 56 seconds, after the guy going out gets past.

I dont really want to make a mountain out of a molehill, but I had the footage and thought it would be interesting to hear comments.

In retrospect, i should have just gone for it, but...
RPM
RPM
WA
1549 posts
RPM RPM
WA, 1549 posts
27 Feb 2011 9:50pm

What are you on about?

I can't believe I just spent 1 min watching that. The only good thing is that your riding a wainman kite!
Lazarus
Lazarus
160 posts
160 posts
27 Feb 2011 9:53pm
I am on about guys dropping in. I think he should have pulled out.
Taurus
Taurus
VIC
189 posts
VIC, 189 posts
28 Feb 2011 1:19am
Given he has his back to you, he has right of way. My interpretation is that although you may have had right of you on the wave (too hard to tell if thats the case), it is outweighed by your primary safety responsibility to bear away from him.
Lazarus
Lazarus
160 posts
160 posts
27 Feb 2011 11:14pm
He did not have his back to me - he was riding toeside, but i understand what you mean. He knew I was there - he was shouting at me that it was his wave. I felt it was mine as (1) i had it first and (2) i was closest to the breaking section. There was no safety issue - it was a question of who should pull out.

Charl dv
Charl dv
WA
2485 posts
WA, 2485 posts
28 Feb 2011 12:25am
if he's a tourist he automatically loses right of way so tell him to neck up and F@CK off
Lazarus
Lazarus
160 posts
160 posts
28 Feb 2011 1:10am
Charl dv said...

if he's a tourist he automatically loses right of way so tell him to neck up and F@CK off



Now that's the kind of response I was looking for!

I did. And his response:

Prawnhead
Prawnhead
NSW
1317 posts
NSW, 1317 posts
28 Feb 2011 9:42am
totally in the wrong

i am sure sunny garcia and jeremy flores could offer some advice !!
tightlines
tightlines
WA
3509 posts
WA, 3509 posts
28 Feb 2011 7:24am
Guilty as charged.

default
default
WA
1255 posts
WA, 1255 posts
28 Feb 2011 11:03am
This one is easy to work out.

He's Italian, he kites, he liked that wave - its his wave you fool!

You should back out as soon as you see him dropping in on you. Even get hammered on the inside for him. Kites can be repaired anyways!

He doesnt ever drop in, if hes tracking a wave from anywhere - that wave is automatically his...even on the way back out, if he sees a tasty wave...he can sneak a quick gybe in and share with the guy already riding. Thats cool isnt it!?!

Look, no one else really matters - he's the best rider out there, should get the best waves and everyone must see him riding the wave of the day.

1st class w&nker.
Poida
Poida
WA
1922 posts
WA, 1922 posts
28 Feb 2011 11:34am
having a camera will always attract this
Charl dv
Charl dv
WA
2485 posts
WA, 2485 posts
28 Feb 2011 11:55am
I hope you pointed out which direction the airport was
shitdetector
shitdetector
NSW
100 posts
NSW, 100 posts
28 Feb 2011 3:06pm
I don't want to be the jury. I want someone else to be the judge and jury and I want to be the executioner.

Classic douchebag behaviour on the water and, just so as to remove any trace of lingering doubt, on the beach as well.
Pedro Sexton
Pedro Sexton
VIC
116 posts
VIC, 116 posts
28 Feb 2011 4:38pm
Regardless of who had right of way on the wave (there are plenty more out there) I believe you did well to hold it together.

I would have lost it had I been in the same situation with that antagonistic behaviour.
au_rick
au_rick
WA
752 posts
WA, 752 posts
28 Feb 2011 2:30pm
Lazarus said...

The action is at the end of the vid. I was on the wave first and closest to the breaking section. I could have pushed my bottom turn at about 53 secs, but I did not want a line tangle. He is a toeside riding Italian tourist! You be the jury...




Looks to me like you just backdoored a wave that he was already riding ?

You lose !!
getfunky
getfunky
WA
4485 posts
WA, 4485 posts
28 Feb 2011 3:52pm
au_rick said...

Lazarus said...

The action is at the end of the vid. I was on the wave first and closest to the breaking section. I could have pushed my bottom turn at about 53 secs, but I did not want a line tangle. He is a toeside riding Italian tourist! You be the jury...




Looks to me like you just backdoored a wave that he was already riding ?

You lose !!


+1

Looks to me like you could lose a few kilos, fancy yourself as a charger - when in reality you muck about in knee high swell - and ride straight downwind, accross other's well established trajectory assuming you have a god given right of way... and then post a vid of your antics seeking approval for your behaviour.



Had to laff at the "Myooove! Fork orf!"

Good to see he applauded your act, he obviously enjoys a good circus.
Paradox
Paradox
QLD
1326 posts
QLD, 1326 posts
28 Feb 2011 10:04pm
hard to tell but looks to me like a pretty long full wave that had two breaking (barely) sections. He was riding right and you were riding left. both closing.

He bared away down wind when you got close, so you both ended up going in the same direction.

Complex situation and rules difficult to interpret and probably conflicting.

Too much agro on both sides if you ask me, chill out and get the next one! right of way can be a tenuous thing in waves....

sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
5378 posts
WA, 5378 posts
28 Feb 2011 8:12pm
Surprised he wasn't wearing his underpants at the same time.
kyteryder
kyteryder
NSW
692 posts
NSW, 692 posts
28 Feb 2011 11:31pm
Looks like what happens on every surf break around the globe. Could be a class action suit.
theDoctor
theDoctor
NSW
5786 posts
NSW, 5786 posts
28 Feb 2011 11:42pm

who should pull out...?

I believe that it should be you

pullin your head out your arse

first wave of the day

force yourself down the line at speed doing weak turns

you could have slowed down and created a bit of distance between the two of you

a one minute clip posted by you is pretty arbitrary, that dude could have been there all day, riding from that same section on, hassle free

then some tool wearing a two tone brown steamer in summer comes flying down from way upwind and calls right of way

I bet you gots heaps of friends
default
default
WA
1255 posts
WA, 1255 posts
28 Feb 2011 10:15pm
theDoctor said...


wearing a two tone brown steamer in summer


To be fair, it looks like this is filmed in cape town, Atlantic side - water temp in summer is about 9oC. I wear a steamer in the coldest part of the Perth winter, water temp about 17oC.
Lazarus
Lazarus
160 posts
160 posts
1 Mar 2011 12:37am
Thanks, i appreciate the comments both kind and unkind. This forum is great - full of wisdom and wit.

It was in Cape Town and the water is cold, so most of us wear full suits in summer. I know, it does not look very cool and at my age I cannot be bothered to pull a pair of board shorts over my wetsuit just to try and look cool.

I did not get anywhere speaking to him afterwards but one of his kiting mates apologised for his agorance and said he was just like that. I guess some guys are just pr*cks. What was funny was he tried to terrorise me on the water afterwards - gunning for me and then pulling out at the last second, but I ignored him and he eventually drifted downwind.

I was in two minds as to whether to post or not. I have made enough of a mountain out of a molehill from this incident which if I had not got on cam I would simply have left, but i did think it might be vaguely educational and a bit funny.

There were plenty of other waves that day. Weak turns and all it is here if anyone cares



Lovely
Lovely
QLD
248 posts
QLD, 248 posts
1 Mar 2011 10:52am
He is simply showing you how sore his arms are after using a silly bridal kite.


Lazarus said...

Charl dv said...

if he's a tourist he automatically loses right of way so tell him to neck up and F@CK off



Now that's the kind of response I was looking for!

I did. And his response:




bjw
bjw
QLD
3690 posts
bjw bjw
QLD, 3690 posts
1 Mar 2011 1:21pm
Was this the dude on the kite?

tgladman
tgladman
WA
500 posts
WA, 500 posts
1 Mar 2011 9:53pm
get over the bridals brother. your probably alot betr rider than alot of ppl on your 'direct connection' kites but i'm sorry to point out there are a zillion incredibly talented kiters with serious skills walking all over your style with their bridalled kites.
probably a couple of teuros in pink shorts too.

Lovely said...

He is simply showing you how sore his arms are after using a silly bridal kite.


Lazarus said...

Charl dv said...

if he's a tourist he automatically loses right of way so tell him to neck up and F@CK off



Now that's the kind of response I was looking for!

I did. And his response:







Lovely
Lovely
QLD
248 posts
QLD, 248 posts
2 Mar 2011 1:28am
^^^In the history of time every impressive world champion hasn't needed to use bridaled beginner delta bow kites. If they needed bridals, im not impressed.
tmiddled
tmiddled
NSW
253 posts
NSW, 253 posts
2 Mar 2011 1:02pm
How did you mount your GoPro?
peanuticus
peanuticus
NSW
341 posts
NSW, 341 posts
2 Mar 2011 1:23pm
that's what you get for riding strapped. live with it or ride where others don't.
Lazarus
Lazarus
160 posts
160 posts
2 Mar 2011 3:46pm
tmiddled said...

How did you mount your GoPro?


Pole is abot a metre long. The screw prevents rotation. Cable ties. Rollbar or handlebar mount.




dusta
dusta
WA
2940 posts
WA, 2940 posts
2 Mar 2011 6:06pm
i unblocked youtube for that ?


all i saw was some d!ckwad drop onto a wave and then abuse someone else for already being there .


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