Sandgroper are you really 84 ? Getting the authorities involved is a crap idea cos then they will scrutinise the whole scene more closely- DON'T DO IT.

To all the idiots out there who think the night kite is a great laugh- awesome go do it, I will be one of those idiots one day - but it is not something for a forum where noobs and the inexperienced may see it as acceptable and the done thing...

sandgroper said...


Once the new Ministy is known, I'll be contacting the Minister responsible for the Maritime Act to discuss regulating kitesurfing at night.

That way at least the promoters of this fatally and highly dangerous activity will know which side of the law they stand.

Dude seriously WTF?

I think you might need to discuss with the minister about some of the wakestyle tricks. They are quite dangerous and someone might get hurt.
I also heard someone sprained an ankle walking up the beach carrying two boards, perhaps you need to speak to them about that too, maybe limit people to one board
Contact him about handgliding too thats gotta be dangerous or spear fishing or crossing the road away from the pedestrian crossing or airtravel


Is your life that uninteresting that you have to spoil something for others?
or maybe your just a self righteous pompous twat.

sandgroper said...

jjd said...

sandgroper said...

I note for the record that Brighton Beach (south of Scarborough) is a dog excercise area and a very popular kitesurfing location.

Wrong - Brighton Beach has not been a dog exercise area since the mid 1980s.

The City of Stirling Web site states:

"The following areas are classified as Dog Beach Exercise Areas:
...
Extending northwards 200m from the City's southern boundary at Peasholm Street, South Scarborough
....

That is part of what is officially known as Brighton Beach, which extends from Brighton Sreet to the City of Stirling southern boundary at Peasholm St. although the southern part of Brighton Beach has also been referred to as "Peasholm Beach", being right opposite Peasholm Street. However, the so called "Peasholm Beach" crosses City of Stirling and City of Floreat, so as a formal reference it is too vague.

Therefore, "Brighton Beach (south of Scarborough) is a dog excercise area and a very popular kitesurfing location." is a fair comment in the context it was made.

Once the new Ministy is known, I'll be contacting the Minister responsible for the Maritime Act to discuss regulating kitesurfing at night.

That way at least the promoters of this fatally and highly dangerous activity will know which side of the law they stand.

Again, you are wrong.
Having grown up in South Scarborough, and being a dog owner, and a surfer:
- Brighton Beach is at the bottom of Brighton Road Scarborough
- between Brighton Beach and the dog exercise area you have beaches locally known as:
- Kay St
- Ventnor St
- the "popular kiting location" is at Brighton Beach, and Brighton Beach only
- there is only sporadic setting up and kiting in the Peasholm St dog exercise area, although many people do downwinders in the area setting up at Floreat.

Please ensure when you go to the Minister (who I am sure will be too busy doing other more important things), could you please ensure you get your facts straight.

(If anyone is googleearth literate, can these please post a map).

I thought one of the fantastic things about Kitesurfing was the ability to be able to escape the 'Norman Nip****s' in life who take it upon them selves to inflict their ideas about what was right and what was wrong. Obviously I misunderstood the fundamentals of this essentially 'dangerous sport'. Take up crochet and only drink luke warm drinks Sandgroper.

Nothin wrong with a bit of moon surfin ,but for fud sake boyz, at least do it in da nod ya soft cokes.

kiting leaves too much of a smile on your face for emo's to handle...

besides its pretty much impossible to cut yourself with a kite knife

Please,please,please Sandgropper, let us know that you were just stirring S#$t,
if you are seriously even considering contacting a minister about the dangers of night Kiting and willing to outlaw everyone for your own litle twisted bitter gratitude., what a sad state of affair

What ever hapenned to taking responsibility for your own acts???

The justice system is failing us by allowing people to deny their responsibility.

If you slip at the pub and brake your leg, you should not be able to sue for damages.The judge should laugh at you and fine you for waisting valuable court time.

If this was hapening,our insurance premium would be way lower and everybody would be allowed to enjoy any activity they wish so long as it doesn't harm or affect negatively anyone else.

When a di$%^ head body surf in Scarborough, gets dumped on the sand bank, becomes a paraplegic then sue the council because there were no sign on the beach stating that bodysurfing is dangerous,you know the world has gone wrong.

There are already too many signs, i don't need to be reminded that snakes live in the sand dunes with signs every 5 meters because i already know that i have only seen one in 11 years in those same sand dunes!!!!!It might please the tourist but it isn't necessary.

I don't need a fence line at Pinaroo point because some $%^&^% idiot may have written to the minister to express their concern about the grass is being damaged by kite surfers who are actually on the ocean.

Are they going to ban swimming in the ocean because the financial risk for the city council is umbearable?

The same applies to kiting at night or any other activities, take responsibility for your own acts and if things go wrong be prepared to pay the price without blaming anyone else and the world would be a much better place.

Sorry i am raving and i guess the world is a better place for its variety of opinion but i just find it soooo sad

Maybe learn to stick to your own business, Scicilian style

sandgroper said...

jjd said...

sandgroper said...

I note for the record that Brighton Beach (south of Scarborough) is a dog excercise area and a very popular kitesurfing location.

Wrong - Brighton Beach has not been a dog exercise area since the mid 1980s.

The City of Stirling Web site states:

"The following areas are classified as Dog Beach Exercise Areas:
...
Extending northwards 200m from the City's southern boundary at Peasholm Street, South Scarborough
....

That is part of what is officially known as Brighton Beach, which extends from Brighton Sreet to the City of Stirling southern boundary at Peasholm St. although the southern part of Brighton Beach has also been referred to as "Peasholm Beach", being right opposite Peasholm Street. However, the so called "Peasholm Beach" crosses City of Stirling and City of Floreat, so as a formal reference it is too vague.

Therefore, "Brighton Beach (south of Scarborough) is a dog excercise area and a very popular kitesurfing location." is a fair comment in the context it was made.

Once the new Ministy is known, I'll be contacting the Minister responsible for the Maritime Act to discuss regulating kitesurfing at night.

That way at least the promoters of this fatally and highly dangerous activity will know which side of the law they stand.

hey sandgroper i'm guessing nitekiting isn't anywhere nearly as hazardous as complaining about it to a politician!

nite kiting at lizard over shallow reef flat where there would be no boat traffic and an onshore breeze doesn't sound too bad to me. It would be different if there was an offshore breeze, boat traffic, or deep water and other hazards. It depends on the spot how dangerous it is. And what's the difference between surfing at night/ dawn/ dusk? what about a knee deep gutter at low tide that's cut off rom the ocean? is that still wrong? You could kite a few meters from the beach if it was onshore - similar to a land sailer driving through the shallow water. Cant tell me your bound by navigation rules then?

Anyway you can get away with that sort of stuff at a place like lizard island because of the absence big brother and jon q law! There's too many rules in this country where you have to kite here and freakin park there and pay this parking fee etc etc

I say Kite at night after a few herbal remedys!

Dawn Patrol said...

I think he's just one of those people who like to complain. "Hoons" doing burnouts in a deserted carpark, neighbours accidently leaving sprinklers on, people riding a pushbike with no helmet, supermarket prices....sounds familiar???Typical today tonight crap. lol.

haha, imagine him going to today tonight with this!

Hey ruffryder61

Get one of these night vision goggles strapped to your head.



Bring on the flaming.....

But seriously, night kitting is extremely dangerous, if you are going to do it, make sure you have a number of people on the beach and in the water keeping an eye on you and you have a number of back up safety plans in place.

Splaat said...

Hey ruffryder61

Get one of these night vision goggles strapped to your head.



Bring on the flaming.....

But seriously, night kitting is extremely dangerous, if you are going to do it, make sure you have a number of people on the beach and in the water keeping an eye on you and you have a number of back up safety plans in place.

that be the go. army might be interessted in such goggles.

i think the fewer people u have on beach and in water the safer it is!

cheers for concersn anyway mate!

next full moon coming..

GROPER you have some serious issues man. Who shoved the pole up your ass this time? Think your sooo much better than the rest of us cause u know how to make a complaint?

WOW

guys, this is serious. we have an absolue MF here. I think we should make a complaint and get him taken away from the public, as he might bring on a very violent series of events if he doesnt butt out of others buisness.

Moon kiting is the own persons choice, NO ONE is beiing forced into it, everyone can say no.

Everyone entering the water would be confident in thier abilities, and should have done the previous research. If some idiot (not mentioning names..... GROPER) goes into the water and screws up well then we may need to get a kite license. But when is the last time you heard someone dying from kiting at night?

Yeh, I thought so.

Until then, everyone is taking care as they do it. No need to go and ruin everyone elses fun cause your wife refuses to get in bed with you, thats your problem not ours.

And if we DO need to get a license, whats the big deal? Does it mean that ou wont be able to launch on the dog beach? AWWWWWWWWWW POOR YOU.


Stop bending over for the 'minister' and instead try earning back a slight bit of the self dignity you have lost to everyone a$$#@!e

now we are talking bearkiter!!!

keep the moon shining kiters

^^put a picture like that in the nod and i tell ya ,your make womans day front page for sure.

cross country full moon kiting sessions at the next bright night of la luna!
when is it?

i would like to see some more pictures..

what comes closer to the moon than a kite?

nothing...