It's official.
WAKSA has a new rule for entering comps.
'NO LEGGIE - NO ENTRY'
Because of the increase in loose boards flying around in the surf,
mainly due to strapless riders falling off all the time,
leggies are now mandatory for entering all WAKSA comps.
There will be no exceptions ...
that goes for the wakestylers in their white boots too.
lol.

waveslave said...

It's official.
WAKSA has a new rule for entering comps.
'NO LEGGIE - NO ENTRY'
Because of the increase in loose boards flying around in the surf,
mainly due to strapless riders falling off all the time,
leggies are now mandatory for entering all WAKSA comps.
There will be no exceptions ...
that goes for the wakestylers in their white boots too.
lol.

Whats This
Not even a made up quote this time - just straight up bulls**t.
Just as well they dont lock looneys away any more
(then again perhaps it'd be better if they did)
Slave - you really should resist believing those voices.
They are not your friends.
No one is

CarlBevo said...

Slavey

what about the other 4 lines what's your take on that

What's my take on kite-lines, you ask ? ^^^
Well without kite-lines you can't kite, can you ?
So you might as well just surf some windslop if you worry about strings ...
Or become a poley, they're paranoid about lines too.
The lines hang off the bar at arms-reach so keep them tight, ok.
The death-leash hangs off your body, it flaps around and gets in the goddamn way.
You need lines but you don't need a death-leash.
It's superfluous.

Hey Charley.

Yeh - I had two of the leashes and they both did it to me on more than one occasion. I did have the velcro stay put one time and that rooted the buckle.

Admitedly I used to open the velcro occasionally when I did a self launch (weighted down my board with heaps o sand and tied off the 5th line/safety leash to handle in case kite lifted off) but truly the velcro wasn't worn and I always made sure it was done up sweetly with no sand etc fouling it.


As for getting dragged under 100m by a wave, none of us behave impeccably when the brownstuff hits the fan but knwoing when and where yopu should ping your final release is pretty much as important as having a drill to ping your chicken loop QR. Know where it is so when you need it there is no fumbles.



Also I think the only time I have intentionally let my kite go was with the sliding release in front of a set (that left me with a heel so bruised I couldn't kite - or walk properly - for over a month). Couldn't have been easier to release and was pizz easy to locate unlike a handle/velcro style thingy. The reason I mention that occasion is that the kite swung its way down Swanny beach very powered and looping etc with the bar swinging all over the joint for about 300m!!

The weight and pointy nature of a kite bar is easily enough to cause permanent damage to a melon in the vicinity.


Incredibly my new kite (2nd sesh on it) ended up missing a star picket by 15cm or so before crashing into the dunes! [/b] Glad it was ugly conditions and no punters around!


Finally - I agree with My Bevo. Most of us have seen greif, or very near misses, from kites going solo but I haven't seen much evidence of safety leashes causing drama. I am far more worried about the other 4 (or 5) lines.. oh and solo auto pilot kites.

Yawnn

flipper4444 said...

Eddie my girl friend ran away

Lock her in!

au_rick said...

Charl dv said...

getfunky said...

Have to agree with WS on one point and that is some leashes open up by themselves.

I had 2 slightly diff model Airush leashes that were kn hopeless if you did bail to them. They had a double velcro fold over that fkd up 3 out of 4 times! Hopeless and made using it virtually redundant.

Yep - happened to me at KS (09). Combined with the demoed kite's dodgy chicken finger dropping out (and mashing my finger between the loop and the bar in the process), then the loop opening up, hanging on one handed to a fully powered kite in 35 knots, before attempting to bail to my leash - only to see a new kite flying off and down the beach past amused punters. Tres embarrassing.

I now use a sliding style final release leash and no dramas with accidental release so far. Had to completely release the kite when caught inside a big set once and the slide release was easy as. Recomended.

I'd still rather have a leash and have the occasional stuff up than bail on a kite (with a hazardous bar swinging arounf waiting to KO somebody) every time.

Give it up Slave. You have your opinion. We know what it is. Now move on.

are you serious? damn thats actually the first leash i ever found to never accidentally release. mine has lasted me for 3 seasons now (touch wood) without ONCE unintentionally releasing due to the velcro, i had this big F off metal clip bend and release before the Velcro did and another time the leash actually snap. before that i had a naish, best and LF leash and they all released on be a couple of times so I had to electric tape it a couple of wraps so it was still able to be released when pulled hard but wouldnt accidentally undo itself.

i dont see how you cant release your kite when getting dragged by waves either, I have been able to pull myself around, make my way up to the bar and undo the mess when a leash has pinned a line against the bar causing my kite to deathloop uncontrollably. and also been able to find and pull my release when getting pulled under in the surf and not being able to get my boots off while getting dragged around.

Ask Mark Foo about not being unable to undo a velcro leash while being held down, Oh hang on, thats right, you can't because he Fu&*Ing drowned at maverics !!!

Short answer, if taking things to the extreme, then different rules obviously apply.
For the average Joe shmoe, kiting around metro beaches and innocent bystanders, a safety leash is a must.

ok now ur just getting silly. we are talking about kite safety leashes here and you bring in surfing leg ropes... thats apples and oranges.

hey you know what areally dumb leash is? that snowboard one thats attatched from your boot to your binding..... I dont love that leash...not one bit...

GEEZ! Can someone PLEASE UNleash the slaveyboy from his soap box

Charl dv said...

au_rick said...

Charl dv said...

getfunky said...

Have to agree with WS on one point and that is some leashes open up by themselves.

I had 2 slightly diff model Airush leashes that were kn hopeless if you did bail to them. They had a double velcro fold over that fkd up 3 out of 4 times! Hopeless and made using it virtually redundant.

Yep - happened to me at KS (09). Combined with the demoed kite's dodgy chicken finger dropping out (and mashing my finger between the loop and the bar in the process), then the loop opening up, hanging on one handed to a fully powered kite in 35 knots, before attempting to bail to my leash - only to see a new kite flying off and down the beach past amused punters. Tres embarrassing.

I now use a sliding style final release leash and no dramas with accidental release so far. Had to completely release the kite when caught inside a big set once and the slide release was easy as. Recomended.

I'd still rather have a leash and have the occasional stuff up than bail on a kite (with a hazardous bar swinging arounf waiting to KO somebody) every time.

Give it up Slave. You have your opinion. We know what it is. Now move on.

are you serious? damn thats actually the first leash i ever found to never accidentally release. mine has lasted me for 3 seasons now (touch wood) without ONCE unintentionally releasing due to the velcro, i had this big F off metal clip bend and release before the Velcro did and another time the leash actually snap. before that i had a naish, best and LF leash and they all released on be a couple of times so I had to electric tape it a couple of wraps so it was still able to be released when pulled hard but wouldnt accidentally undo itself.

i dont see how you cant release your kite when getting dragged by waves either, I have been able to pull myself around, make my way up to the bar and undo the mess when a leash has pinned a line against the bar causing my kite to deathloop uncontrollably. and also been able to find and pull my release when getting pulled under in the surf and not being able to get my boots off while getting dragged around.

Ask Mark Foo about not being unable to undo a velcro leash while being held down, Oh hang on, thats right, you can't because he Fu&*Ing drowned at maverics !!!

Short answer, if taking things to the extreme, then different rules obviously apply.
For the average Joe shmoe, kiting around metro beaches and innocent bystanders, a safety leash is a must.

ok now ur just getting silly. we are talking about kite safety leashes here and you bring in surfing leg ropes... thats apples and oranges.

No, I believe Slave mentioned that no leggie = no ride in WAKSA wave kiting comps ?

waveslave said...

It's official.
WAKSA has a new rule for entering comps.
'NO LEGGIE - NO ENTRY'
Because of the increase in loose boards flying around in the surf,
mainly due to strapless riders falling off all the time,
leggies are now mandatory for entering all WAKSA comps.
There will be no exceptions ...
that goes for the wakestylers in their white boots too.
lol.

^^^ See ?

au_rick said...

Charl dv said...

au_rick said...

Charl dv said...

getfunky said...

Have to agree with WS on one point and that is some leashes open up by themselves.

I had 2 slightly diff model Airush leashes that were kn hopeless if you did bail to them. They had a double velcro fold over that fkd up 3 out of 4 times! Hopeless and made using it virtually redundant.

Yep - happened to me at KS (09). Combined with the demoed kite's dodgy chicken finger dropping out (and mashing my finger between the loop and the bar in the process), then the loop opening up, hanging on one handed to a fully powered kite in 35 knots, before attempting to bail to my leash - only to see a new kite flying off and down the beach past amused punters. Tres embarrassing.

I now use a sliding style final release leash and no dramas with accidental release so far. Had to completely release the kite when caught inside a big set once and the slide release was easy as. Recomended.

I'd still rather have a leash and have the occasional stuff up than bail on a kite (with a hazardous bar swinging arounf waiting to KO somebody) every time.

Give it up Slave. You have your opinion. We know what it is. Now move on.

are you serious? damn thats actually the first leash i ever found to never accidentally release. mine has lasted me for 3 seasons now (touch wood) without ONCE unintentionally releasing due to the velcro, i had this big F off metal clip bend and release before the Velcro did and another time the leash actually snap. before that i had a naish, best and LF leash and they all released on be a couple of times so I had to electric tape it a couple of wraps so it was still able to be released when pulled hard but wouldnt accidentally undo itself.

i dont see how you cant release your kite when getting dragged by waves either, I have been able to pull myself around, make my way up to the bar and undo the mess when a leash has pinned a line against the bar causing my kite to deathloop uncontrollably. and also been able to find and pull my release when getting pulled under in the surf and not being able to get my boots off while getting dragged around.

Ask Mark Foo about not being unable to undo a velcro leash while being held down, Oh hang on, thats right, you can't because he Fu&*Ing drowned at maverics !!!

Short answer, if taking things to the extreme, then different rules obviously apply.
For the average Joe shmoe, kiting around metro beaches and innocent bystanders, a safety leash is a must.

ok now ur just getting silly. we are talking about kite safety leashes here and you bring in surfing leg ropes... thats apples and oranges.

No, I believe Slave mentioned that no leggie = no ride in WAKSA wave kiting comps ?

see ^^