Downwinder - Rockingham to Woodman Point

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puppetonastring
puppetonastring
WA
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3 Mar 2013 6:39pm
JimJones said...
juicerider said...
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I take it you are aware of the requirements for safety equipment if >400 meters from shore.
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I'm routinely more than 400m offshore during normal kiting, sorry for my ignorance, what is required?


Right at this present time - nothing. But of course common sense should always apply.
Won't be long before regulations will include kiters.
Join WAKSA and add your voice to our volunteer c'tee that is negotiating this issue on our behalf as you are reading. Without WAKSA intervention we may just find ourselves inappropriately classed as a power craft requiring all the safety & comms equipment boaties are required to carry on board.
It's a tough call for WAKSA to present as representing all when so many neglect to protect themselves & our sport.
C'mon all - it's miserly annual fee that may just end up saving you your financial future - not to mention our group freedoms.
JimJones
JimJones
QLD
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QLD, 237 posts
4 Mar 2013 3:04pm
Yep, already a member of WAKSA, and happy to support
juicerider
juicerider
WA
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WA, 790 posts
4 Mar 2013 1:48pm
JimJones said...
juicerider said...
...
I take it you are aware of the requirements for safety equipment if >400 meters from shore.
...



I'm routinely more than 400m offshore during normal kiting, sorry for my ignorance, what is required?


Well done with the FPA, looks like they are playing nice.
Its about 12 years since I had a meeting with members of the water police regarding the regs, so my advice may be out of date. This should be your first place to find out, they can be quite helpful, and their advice will be much more accurate than any you will receive on this forum.
Good luck and let me know how you get on.
JimJones
JimJones
QLD
237 posts
QLD, 237 posts
4 Mar 2013 4:46pm
Paddlecraft have this:

www.transport.wa.gov.au/mediaFiles/mar_B_PaddleSafe.pdf

This does show 400m as being significant from their point of view.

I'll also contact Transport WA and see what their response is.
brooksy
brooksy
WA
498 posts
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6 Mar 2013 5:36pm
Triggerhappy said...
All powered vessels must give way to sail. So there should not be a problem all the subs and boats will have to avoid you. That said you would be a little foolish to play chicken with them and lose but if you can catch a ride on a sub by hopping on to it we will all be duly impressed, make sure your buddy has a camera.


Nope - Ships must not cross a channel if to do so would impede another vessel which can navigate only within that channel. Smaller vessels must avoid bigger vessels which are restructed to shipping lanes. Trust me an oil tanker in Cockburn Sound can't stop if you stack it in front of him!
brooksy
brooksy
WA
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6 Mar 2013 5:38pm
Rather than everyone asking the police, FPA and DoT, it might be better for a coordinated approach through WAKSA. If everyone asks, DoT will immediately think there is a big number of kites >400m from shore and start to introduce rules that arent needed or required.

Help WAKSA help you
JimJones
JimJones
QLD
237 posts
QLD, 237 posts
6 Mar 2013 11:44pm
Good idea Brooksy. I had already queried DoT, and this was their response:

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Hi Jim

Kiteboard are not classed as vessels as described under the Western Australian Marine Act 1982. Therefore there are no safety requirements you need to adhere to under this legislation. If you were planning an aquatic event with these craft you would still require DoT's official approval as it is an organised event and we are giving permission for the use of that water space.

From what you have told me below it is a social event and you are taking safety precautions and have a communications plan with radios and mobile phones which is great to see. The department has no objections for this activity to occur and would recommend that you clearly monitor the weather and pick a suitable day to carry out this activity.

Good luck and I hope all goes well.

Regards

Simon Miller

Supervising Marine Officer | Marine Safety | Department of Transport
JimJones
JimJones
QLD
237 posts
QLD, 237 posts
6 Mar 2013 11:47pm
I also already asked Cockburn Rescue for their advice in this regard, and will post once I receive. Then I'll compile it and summarise the advice into one place. Including handing it over to WAKSA.

Should be useful as a kind of FAQ for those wishing to interact with shipping lanes, distance from shore, etc etc.

Timing: This coming weekend is all red arrows, next weekend is Red Kite downwinder, so likely this can be on the weekend after, wind allowing.
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