^^^Not disputing the kite works and some people obviously enjoy it and like to promote it here. Almost any kite can be relaunched easily if the rider can stand up, which was very obviously the case in that video. Relaunch in light winds in deep water, requires good technique, and an armful of opposite front and rear lines, with some see saw action will get even high AR race kites off the water.
If a 12M kite turned like that, its not a good one, so most 12M kites actually turn a lot better than any brand of 17M kite. Just want to keep things real don't like hyper claims.

I want a 12 that turns like a 17 and has the bar pressure of a 14 and flies through the window like a 10

Pretty much every kite on the planet gets promoted here, nothing new about that.
Relaunch in light winds with any kite is tricky as KP mentioned. All about technique. I have found that the 17 TRX does require extra work when relaunching in light winds, more like trying to relaunch c kites, getting it to roll over on the edge of the window. The Zeph is easier as the curve of the wing lends itself to roll up on the edge of the window. On land the TRX reverse launches SO easy, which is what I do in very low knots.
I love to try new kites, each year is pretty exciting when something I haven't tried comes our way down here. However, I do like to support local when I can, and because I don't sell gear I refer them to my closest shop which is Kp Sydney. I certainly don't have to do that, but I hope that the people I send get good advice on gear.

Okay big lesson learnt "CHECK KITE LINE LENGHT"
My 2010 Zephyr turns like a treat now thanks to good mates and help on the beach
Huge difference
Having a absolute blast now

:)

PS keeping my Mullet he he hee

jamdfingr said..

I haven't ridden any of the others, so can't compare, but I think my Core 17 XR2 can be dialed up to be a quick turning kite (for a big kite)

I have loved it since day 1 and at 92kg, I can ride from 12kts to 20kts..... Great wind range!

I can get going fine on my 13 edge in 12-20, and I'm 94kg's. Have to use my 150cm TT or Kapuna surf board

Loving my new Contra more & more ... most powerful kite I've ever owned ...

i get good low end out of the 14.5 wainman big mama. turns fast, very smooth and just feels nice all around. better for me than the 15m edge and 2010 zephyr....

with the race board i can get out in 9-10kts and be cruising along just fine

There's at least a 15kn tide running.

Nice video but you won't be doing half the shown moves in 8 knts , you will around 13 knts I especially like the way he jumps then lands at a different location, I know it has excellent hangtime but it ain't that good

what im refering to is when someone watches this video and shells out their hard earned cash they'll be very pissed when they are trying to ride their tt in 8knts, never mind trying to do tricks, also 90% of people that will buy one don't kite a couloundra or are ex world champs, maybe post a video of yourself riding it in 8knts on a tt and show us what your telling us, ive got the new zephyr and I wouldn't bother my arse pumping it up below 13knts for me to ride on a tt

Bit off-topic, but I feel like recounting one of my best big kite experiences....

Took the afternoon off work to chase the forecast 18 knot sea breeze, but it only got to 11. Found that I could ride on my 16m Peter Lynn Foil, but drifted down-wind of course. So walking back upwind in waste-deep water (which I normally wouldn't do, I'd use the beach) I found a $50 note!

The chances of me and that cash coming together were so slim... wind I normally wouldn't bother with, walking upwind in the water, and many kilometers of metro coast to choose from. No one else around within sight, no realistic chance of reuniting the money with its rightful owner so by law, it was mine.

Kitepower Australia said..

Puts to rest comments about slow turning, instability, performance....

I don't see any performance from the kite in that video. I'm not saying the kite flies badly. That's a completely pointless video to highlight how the kite flies.

Kitepower Australia said..

Plummet said..

Kitepower Australia said..

Puts to rest comments about slow turning, instability, performance....

I don't see any performance from the kite in that video. I'm not saying the kite flies badly. That's a completely pointless video to highlight how the kite flies.

Well Plummet if that really is what you think then your statement and opinion expressed says a lot more about you than you probably intended.
The video clearly shows how stable the kite is unhooked, slackline
drift and stability, how tightly it turns in kiteloops, its power and easy handling for starters...

I'll admit straight up. I have no interest what so ever in wake style. None. So how a kite performs unhooked, slackline is of no interested to me. But I am interested in turning speed, loop capability and light wind performance. There was no part of that video that showed me any of what I'm interested In. apart from maybe the loop in slowmo..... But then it was in slowmo... so also useless. The light wind riding was, as other has stated, in an estuary with a massive current. So that makes the light wind performance moot.

Again, I'm not bagging the kite. For me that is a completely useless video. But then again most video's kite companies release these days boring as hell. They are either wake style like this or some dude some dude smashing endless lips on a strapless surfboard. There is nothing in between. They usually focus on rider close ups (like this video) and not the kite. Again very useless when someone is trying to decide how a kite performs......

Rant over.

Well I thought that was quite a good vid of the zephyr and I enjoyed watching it.
I tried the Zephyr and loved it for unhooking, has anybody had a chance to compare it to the Fly, or any there any other big kites that are as good for unhooking?

sir ROWDY said..

This is some of the stupidest stuff I've read in a while...
Here's an idea; how about we just make every kite video a video of a regular Joe, filmed zoomed right out so we can see the kite, at an average beach with no rips or tides and with a constant live wind reading on the side of the screen just so everyone can see exactly what it would be like for them to ride the same gear... get the f#ck out.

That's some rage!... think you need to get on the water and vent some deep seated aggression.