50 kn in frankston

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dafrog
dafrog
321 posts
321 posts
7 Sep 2012 12:33pm
There is also a big difference between a storm wind and a normal wind, I have kited easy in 45 knots +++ on a clear stable day in South Africa on my 6M catalyst because: The wind comes from the same direction and does not have gusts of +/- 10 knots and the humidity is low and there is no rain. Also during a storm on the open sea the surface water becomes dramatic and your contact with water changes: you have to deal with messy chop which makes control harder.

I kited last monday in Pinaroo WA during the storm and it must have been solid 35 knots with +/- 10 knots and messy as hell with wind direction and very rough seas and was finding extremely hard and it felt worse than I had in higher wind in CT with the same kite, it felt like it was 50 Knots, at 95kgs and with my 6M depowered I managed 45 minutes or less as it was draining to hold it down.

It's a good point to warn off beginners about storm conditions, the handling of the gusts requires a good feel and any mistake made in those conditions turns worse because gusts can catapult you. Kite up to 30 Knots max and do not go out in stormy conditions, in WA there are plenty good days with a normal dry wind with clear weather and plenty pals around on the spots to give you little help.
Plummet
Plummet
4862 posts
4862 posts
7 Sep 2012 1:00pm
Theres a point of windyness when it actually gets less choppy. The wind sort of flattens off the top of the chop. Of course theres still massive swell but the water seems somehow cleaner. Any and all board splash smashes straight down wind and never makes it to your face.

i wonder what wind speed that is? i put it around 35-40 knots.
Carantoc
Carantoc
WA
7269 posts
WA, 7269 posts
7 Sep 2012 1:10pm
From the BOM Frankston Wind Meter - 6 am to 6pm 5 Sept 2012 :




Gust hit 41 knots 9.24am and 43 knots 12.57 pm, but both times the gusts a few minutes either side were around the 35 knots, with the wind speed 25 to 30 knots.

No idea how representative the reading is to surface wind on the beach. Meter at 6m elevation, location ?? 12km inland ??

Source :

www.bom.gov.au/products/IDV60701/IDV60701.94871.shtml
Smithy
Smithy
VIC
859 posts
VIC, 859 posts
7 Sep 2012 5:35pm
I live just up the coast from Frankston, the wind meter there is crap for most directions. Most locals just don't use it opting to refer to south channel and Fawkner Beacon instead.

Not sure what the point is trying to kite in megga winds is anyway. You're in survival mode from the get go and can't do anything other than try and stay on the water. These type of winds in Melbourne are due to weather fronts and never consistent usually gust of +\- 10 knots.
deanrobi
deanrobi
VIC
641 posts
VIC, 641 posts
7 Sep 2012 5:45pm
Saffer said...



The second thing we need to be aware of is the difference between beacons and wind speed on the beach. Some beacons are based further out in the bay and read higher wind speeds than that experienced on land. Quoting a beacon 1km out in the bay doesn't mean the wind speed on the beach is the same.


Great point, checked with the BOM the other day and the South Channel Marker Beacon is approx 10MTR above sea level
GriffinKites
GriffinKites
NSW
201 posts
NSW, 201 posts
7 Sep 2012 6:36pm
Next time use a windmeter and get it on video or no one believes. Below was 30 to 45 knots. I needed to find the top end limit of my 8m. The video has a shot of the windmeter reading 39 knots on land. Strong wind riding is dangerous, if something goes wrong, there is no time to react.



dafrog
dafrog
321 posts
321 posts
7 Sep 2012 5:06pm
GriffinKites said...

Next time use a windmeter and get it on video or no one believes. Below was 30 to 45 knots. I needed to find the top end limit of my 8m. The video has a shot of the windmeter reading 39 knots on land. Strong wind riding is dangerous, if something goes wrong, there is no time to react.


what? no kite loop?
suniboy21
suniboy21
VIC
1090 posts
VIC, 1090 posts
7 Sep 2012 7:30pm
Blah Blah Blah... Sounds like a bunch of sooks from WA are jealous cause US Victorians are getting all the wind.... Look at your Forecast for next week and SUCK A BIG FAT ONE!!!!
pgc
pgc
VIC
886 posts
pgc pgc
VIC, 886 posts
7 Sep 2012 8:18pm
im with you suniboy. check out big friday 9-8-2012 at tribecarew.com.. i am not posting wind speeds too many opinions.
Underoath
Underoath
QLD
2434 posts
QLD, 2434 posts
7 Sep 2012 9:59pm
Do you lads always get this defensive when someone disagrees with your opinion? I was simply stating the honest truth and you lot feel you got to shoot me down. No love lost!

www.watoday.com.au/national/western-australia/boats-jetties-blown-away-by-storm-20120611-20532.html

sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
5378 posts
WA, 5378 posts
8 Sep 2012 9:18am
Some people in this thread really shouldn't be able to have kids let alone kitesurf. I hope most of these posts are trolls.
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