Has anyone found any statistics for attacks based on numbers of people in the water being chomped, against the number of people on land getting hit by cars, lightning bees etc?
there are a lot more people not in the water at any 1 time than in it. i cant find any good figures.

I am seriously more concerned about getting hit by lightening than shark attack when out sailing
that said i still sh1t myself when I fall of next to one

yeah i know the feeling. ive seen a lot in my time and not once have i been concerned once ive seen how calm they were.
im more interested in true figures that show the real numbers, as in for every 5 people in the water theres 500 not in it.

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PS: Sorry for hijacking this thread, but you reminded me!

FlySurfer said...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shark_attack

~60 attacks a year WORLDWIDE.... so 1 in 11.5 million, and a person's chance of getting killed by a shark is less than 1 in 264.1 million.


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Explanation for BigWaveDave:
If you're scared of sharks, it may be a good idea to not go in the water and instead buy some loto tickets.

see the above is the problem. its not a stat that covers the entire global population. not everyone goes in the ocean, and some only a few times a year, others every day. still others dont go more than knee deep, others a few km out.
so you can see the flaw in the "more likely to get killed by a bee" line.

ikw777 said...

elmo said...

that said i still sh1t myself when I fall of next to one

Happens a lot does it?

Gybed over em
fell in next to em
Had one swim past me when on a surf board between it and a school of salmon
and been ambushed by one

Lightning still scares me more

{edit}
However if i do see one nearby, I do scarper, the high pitched whine you may hear in my passing is a warning to others in the area and not me squealing like a little Biatch

saltiest1 said...

FlySurfer said...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shark_attack

~60 attacks a year WORLDWIDE.... so 1 in 11.5 million, and a person's chance of getting killed by a shark is less than 1 in 264.1 million.


Loto may be a good investment vehicle for those with concerns.

Explanation for BigWaveDave:
If you're scared of sharks, it may be a good idea to not go in the water and instead buy some loto tickets.

see the above is the problem. its not a stat that covers the entire global population. not everyone goes in the ocean, and some only a few times a year, others every day. still others dont go more than knee deep, others a few km out.
so you can see the flaw in the "more likely to get killed by a bee" line.

yep, i would like to see the odds on someone who surfs 3 to 4 times a week.

and what about surfers who surf 3 to 4 times a week in the southern states- vic, sa and wa .

surely their odds of getting attacked would be greater

saltiest1 said...

Has anyone found any statistics for attacks based on numbers of people in the water being chomped, against the number of people on land getting hit by cars, lightning bees etc?
there are a lot more people not in the water at any 1 time than in it. i cant find any good figures.

I'm an estimator... Here's my crack at the answer...

I believe we average less than 1 fatal shark attack for year. Lately, WA stats are bad...

For simplified calculations, let's keep the number round;
1 attack in 20 Million Aussies (there's probably another 2 Million here who aren't ridgey didge Aussie, but I digress! ).
Lets say the average Australian goes in the "open waters" for a swim and bathe, on average 10 times per year. So that would make the stats about 10 x 20M, 1 in 200 Million Chance.... very roughly. Increase it to 15 visits, and you get to 1 in 300 Million Chance.

Road Users - lets say the average Aussie takes to the road 500 times per year. That's 10,000 Million Trips or 10 Billion uses of the road. Very roughly.

1600 deaths per year, roughly (improving nearly 3,000 in the 1980's).
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_toll

So 10 Billion divided by 1600 deaths = 1 in 6,250,000 chance of dying on the roads.

If you increased the "road uses" figure, you might round it up to 1 in 10 Million chance on the roads....

So on those assumptions, the chances are roughly;
Road Death - 1 in 10 Million
Shark Attack - 1 in 200 Million

You could re-run the calculations based on Time Estimates... But I really can't be fagged!!

Statistics can prove anything. 89.6% of people know that.

To compare death from shark attacks to deaths lightning, bee stings, car accidents or meteor strike is misleading. Someone living in Mongolia or Chad is probably never going to see a shark let alone be attacked by one.

However someone living in coastal Australia who enjoys swimming at dusk and dawn in river esturies while menstruating or with open cuts while mullet are running may have a reasonable chance of getting attacked by a shark.

The fact is humans kill heaps of sharks all the time. The fact is 99% of thes sharks we catch are not the sort that attack people. The fact is its illegal to kill one of the most dangerous types of sharks, the Great White. The fact is Great White numbers are increasing, plus their favoured prey, whales are increasing in numbers too. So the fact is we are going to get more shark attacks as there are more dangerous sharks around and more people in the water.

Mobydisc said...


To compare death from shark attacks to deaths lightning, bee stings, car accidents or meteor strike is misleading.

Of course it can be misleading...
But what I put forward is a fair representation for Australian's. Of course, if you're a high water user, you can probably say you go into the ocean 200 times per year, instead of 10 times as put forward above.

This would bring the likelihood of a car accident death "roughly on par" with a shark attack. Obviously certain beaches and locations are safer than others... So if you frequent sharky waters, the odds start to stack up against you.... if you want to hone into a particular person's circumstances...

The above stuff is just un-biased generalisations, to give examples on how I would answer the question / question interpretation.

Statistics can prove anything. 89.6% of people know that.


Statistics show that 6 out of 7 dwarves aren't Happy!

If you're worried about being taken by a shark don't go in the water.
Risk immediatly eliminated.

definately not worried about being eaten, many encounters with sharks (not intentional) have taught me that im probably gonna be ok. was just sick of the common incorrect spruiking of them stats.
hey those wave pools, what are they like to surf in?

Simondo said...

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So on those assumptions, the chances are roughly;
Road Death - 1 in 10 Million
Shark Attack - 1 in 200 Million

I fall in more if it's choppy though.


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