Underoath said..

It was interesting to hear that of the 326 Sharks tagged by Fisheries in WA.

136 have been Great Whites.

I think that number is wrong. You'll find that 136 GW is actually there has been 136 GW's tagged by WA and the SA government. Very misleading by ch 7 and our government IMHO

Underoath said..

If that's the case, then the news report was misleading.

I had a question tabled in State parliament last November. It still has yet to be answered. Its on my work computer tomorrow so ill post it when i get to work. But yes the State Government is playing so cagey about this.

Spending millions and basically doing nothing

Is any time a shark eats called a feeding frenzy? Or is it only when news crew are filming?

Wow fabulous reporting, it's obviously a great white, what with the tiger strips covering most of it's body and the flat nose. His mates involved in the frenzy must have some sort of invisibility cloaking field or something.

jbshack said..
Spending millions and basically doing nothing

and you are surprised?

stephen

Rigged up yesterday at Pinaroo, got all ready, just about to carry the gear to the water when old mate rocks up.

"Geez you're keen"
"Well the wind looks good, so not really..."
"Well all those excavators and trucks on the beach are collecting a whale carcass that has attracted loads of sharks, so yes you're very keen"



So I didn't get to go for a sail.

nebbian said..

Rigged up yesterday at Pinaroo, got all ready, just about to carry the gear to the water when old mate rocks up.

"Geez you're keen"
"Well the wind looks good, so not really..."
"Well all those excavators and trucks on the beach are collecting a whale carcass that has attracted loads of sharks, so yes you're very keen"



So I didn't get to go for a sail.

On Saturday they were picking it up. There was a windsurfer maybe 100 meters down the beach and maybe 5 kiters out at Mullaloo. I saw three sharks swimming past, the biggest maybe 3 meters

The worst was when it popped... the smell..

What sort of ?????? up society do we live in when the local State Government has to seek a special disposition from the federal Government authority to tow a dead whale carcass to point X, to prevent add on cost as per City of Joondalup having to pick the bloody thing up and organise disposal.
This is on top of all the safety issues faced by the general public with the current process of letting it just wash up on a metro, or any beach for that matter.
What a bloody embarrassment

mineral1 said..

What sort of ?????? up society do we live in when the local State Government has to seek a special disposition from the federal Government authority to tow a dead whale carcass to point X, to prevent add on cost as per City of Joondalup having to pick the bloody thing up and organise disposal.
This is on top of all the safety issues faced by the general public with the current process of letting it just wash up on a metro, or any beach for that matter.
What a bloody embarrassment

I missed that bit? Were was that story

On moving a whale on a road..This is one of my favourite all time revenge stories

Is my thinking a bit wrong here, but if there were a lot more large sharks along the coast then the whales would get eaten faster ,lose thier gas floatation and sink at sea and not drift ashore at about the metro area.
if you follow my reasoning we should be breeding in captivity and releasing up north to increase the populations for just this reason.

Cal said..

jbshack said..

Question without notice

Hon Giz Watson MLC to the Minister for Fisheries:

etc...

jbshack, not clear on what your angle is here, but SO SO good to see someone interested enough in something to get a question tabled to the schmucks running our house. Let us know when you get some answers to what appear to be very reasonable questions, surely these things are already public domain.

My two cents, sharks are scary as $*&@ (several scuba tanks will testify to my feelings here), but also very cool and totally needed.

You'd think it would be public knowledge i agree..I went looking for answers and got the cold shoulder. Eventually i went on a no talk list with fisheries. I was polite but asked the same simple question and nothing. My point is as a marine activist i want to help sharks, BUT as a ocean user and Marine industry business i can see the negative effect the shark issue has been, on our state especially.

I don't understand why fisheries and our state government is playing the games they are? The South Aussie guys were amazing and answered every question i asked. They even went on to say they use CSIRO and a few private contractors for there tagging. They offered me numbers and names to talk too for more info if i wanted..

IMHO WA state police and fisheries are all about fast boats and looking good

Im happy to be proven wrong, but no one has and will..If what i believe to be correct, the state WA fisheries have only tagged about 12 or maybe 14 Great white sharks for all the millions they have spent

pweedas said..

jbshack said..
IMHO WA state police and fisheries are all about fast boats and looking good

Im happy to be proven wrong, but no one has and will..If what i believe to be correct, the state WA fisheries have only tagged about 12 or maybe 14 Great white sharks for all the millions they have spent

Jbhack, I hope you're not saying you're surprised.
If you are then I'm very disappointed in you.
About this time last year when great whites were feasting on our citizens on local beaches, I said exactly what you are now suggesting is the case.
Fisheries and water police are only interested in "managing the problem", which is code for spending all the money on new and bigger boats and more staff. In fact, more of everything that is to their benefit in building up their own little empire.
I seem to remember copping flak from you on my suggestions for a cheap and effective solution.

It sounds like you might have changed you mind on the matter now that it has had some impact on your commercial activities.
That sounds a bit self serving for a true marine activist.
Do you think the tagging of 14 sharks will have a significant effect on the problem?
Because I don't. I didn't then and I still don't.

My recommendation to the minister for fisheries was to contract the job out to a few of the local fishermen.
They are the people who know how to take out a fish and to do the job cheaply and effectively.,
rather than spend millions on tagging programs which would achieve nothing.

I kind of hope that advice was taken, and kept quiet so as not to upset all the 'marine activists'.

Sorry i think you missed my point. I don't want any sharks harmed..FULLSTOP. Its their ocean and we play in it at our risk. Sharks are needed and i don't think people understand how important they to our survival..I cant be clearer than that

I haven't changed my tune. In fact the question for parliament was entered in November last year. I really got fired up the Friday before the Death of Big Red at wedge..I contacted fisheries on the Friday and their answer's to the issue was pathetic. Then on the Monday i got fired up and started to push and have been ever since. In fact i obviously upset many on here for being different than most, but i just stopped posting on the issue but my want for answers has not dwindled.

The big issue is is the handling of the issues and the distribution of moneys by our government on the issue. Seriously our state government has given money (nearly $600 000 ) to two studies. One to try blowing bubbles under water, and two to test playing music under water That is ****ed up IMHO. Sorry to bring Katana in but his idea, a intelligent shark repellent to be fitted into surf boards was not considered. WHY IMHO because the first two grants really just went to a University study. That money will be used by the UNI to do what they need. We the water users will get no benefit from it a bet you

Its all just a play for the media and the stupid masses..

Sorry of my soapbox now..

The well oiled cogs of bureaucracy at their finest.
And people wonder why I'm such a cynical ****.

I just really want to know why the government denied Australian ocean users the chance to have access to tagged shark tracking information like this, by not allowing these people to come and tag sharks in our waters...

www.ocearch.org/

Woodo said..

I just really want to know why the government denied Australian ocean users the chance to have access to tagged shark tracking information like this, by not allowing these people to come and tag sharks in our waters...

www.ocearch.org/

The government are playing closed house on sharks. The South Aus fisheries guy said that as much and he had no idea why I wont to know why

Their is big issue with Oceanrch research that is showing long term effect on large sharks being lifted out of the water, mostly death, but maybe that would be welcomed by many

The problem with killing and wiping out GW sharks could be a catastrophic to our eco system. Research areas that done just this. They now are left with nothing, no fish, just killer Squid