They say that sea water is rising and Ice burgs are breaking up Why?

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TonyAbbott
TonyAbbott
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23 Oct 2017 4:04am
elbows said..
I just read a book about the Viking era 1100 years ago , all the archaeological digs are 2 meters above current sea level because that's where the sea level was a thousand years ago , ten thousand years ago you could walk to Tasmania or Papua .




The world is an amazing place

The enviro-nazis of the green religion will tell us that only humans can change the environment, but they are too narrow-minded to learn

The sea was 120 metres lower 100,000 years ago at the last ice age, it rose very quickly at a much faster rate than it is rising now, to the level it is now about 5000 years ago.

There has been some oscillation of the sea level high stand, each place is different, but the mostly likely reason the Viking locations are 2 metres above sea level today is uplift of the land.

Science and geology are far more complex and interesting than the one dimensional 'human-induced climate change religous zealots' would have us believe.
quikdrawMcgraw
quikdrawMcgraw
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23 Oct 2017 9:59am
TonyAbbott said..


elbows said..
I just read a book about the Viking era 1100 years ago , all the archaeological digs are 2 meters above current sea level because that's where the sea level was a thousand years ago , ten thousand years ago you could walk to Tasmania or Papua .






The world is an amazing place

The enviro-nazis of the green religion will tell us that only humans can change the environment, but they are too narrow-minded to learn

The sea was 120 metres lower 100,000 years ago at the last ice age, it rose very quickly at a much faster rate than it is rising now, to the level it is now about 5000 years ago.

There has been some oscillation of the sea level high stand, each place is different, but the mostly likely reason the Viking locations are 2 metres above sea level today is uplift of the land.

Science and geology are far more complex and interesting than the one dimensional 'human-induced climate change religous zealots' would have us believe.



BS enviros and greenies would not say only humans can change the environment, they would say that humans are obviously changing the environment in this instance.

Core samples of the past show the atmosphere has naturally been through radical changes regarding climate, the difference with the present climate change is the speed it's happening and the cause - human activity since the industrial revolution. dur
TonyAbbott
TonyAbbott
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23 Oct 2017 11:14am
Nah, nothing unusual about the changing climate

Global Temps are only slightly increasing after a 18 year hiatus and there is nothing unusual about it

And sea level rises are not unusual

Nothing unusual about the rate either

Do you think there are any natural causes to the current climate change or all just human induced?
quikdrawMcgraw
quikdrawMcgraw
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23 Oct 2017 1:17pm
The whole process is natural because humans have unnaturally flooded the atmosphere with pollution.
log man
log man
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23 Oct 2017 4:26pm
TonyAbbott said..
Nah, nothing unusual about the changing climate

Global Temps are only slightly increasing after a 18 year hiatus and there is nothing unusual about it

And sea level rises are not unusual

Nothing unusual about the rate either

Do you think there are any natural causes to the current climate change or all just human induced?


quality trollage Tone.
petermac33
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23 Oct 2017 2:17pm
Human caused 'climate change' has become a new religion,such is their absolute belief in their 'facts'.

The sun as a factor in any 'claimed' increase in temperature should not be entertained.

To entertain such a possibility these days - it would be called a conspiracy theory,a term coined by the Powers That Be to mock those who oppose them.
AUS1111
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23 Oct 2017 3:06pm
Peter, I don't think anyone is denying that other factors can and do change the climate; solar and volcanic activity among them, but we have no control over those. The cause of climate-change that we may be able to control is human-induced climate change.

To say that we may be able to control this aspect doesn't mean we ever will of course, that is proving extremely difficult.
TonyAbbott
TonyAbbott
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24 Oct 2017 3:33pm
A bit of warming will be good for the planet and humanity
DARTH
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24 Oct 2017 3:40pm
TonyAbbott said..
A bit of warming will be good for the planet and humanity


PM troll
SandS
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24 Oct 2017 9:13pm
TonyAbbott said..
A bit of warming will be good for the planet and humanity


Good thinking T that's the way to right the wrongs ! Allow some global warming , that will mean we will burn less fuel to keep warm ..... Problem will be fixed. ............ Oh hang on we may need to use more energy to keep cool ! Doh !
Adriano
Adriano
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25 Oct 2017 4:20am
Three former skeptic scientists wake up...

www.abc.net.au/news/science/2017-10-25/climate-change-sceptics-converted/9053406
petermac33
petermac33
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25 Oct 2017 5:02am
The media or should I say their media slant the discussion to indoctrinate the masses in to believing their science.

You will rarely read stories going the other way,but that's coincidence not con right Bono

You know full well the establishment are a bunch of liars,yet there's still trust there for you?
quikdrawMcgraw
quikdrawMcgraw
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25 Oct 2017 5:47am
Adriano and pm33 are the same troll
NotWal
NotWal
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25 Oct 2017 3:22pm
TonyAbbott said..
A bit of warming will be good for the planet and humanity


Said with the confidence of a coal lobby bigot.
Adriano
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25 Oct 2017 1:30pm
quikdrawMcgraw said..
Adriano and pm33 are the same troll


Ahh to be sure cocksure to be sure.....

quikdrawMcgraw
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25 Oct 2017 2:04pm
Whatever petermac33
evlPanda
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25 Oct 2017 5:06pm
petermac33 said..
Human caused 'climate change' has become a new religion,such is their absolute belief in their 'facts'.


Carbon Dioxide is a greenhouse gas. It lets one wavelength pass through, and blocks another wavelength. Like glass in a greenhouse.
This is simple science. A simple fact.


The sun as a factor in any 'claimed' increase in temperature should not be entertained.


It has been entertained.


To entertain such a possibility these days - it would be called a conspiracy theory,a term coined by the Powers That Be to mock those who oppose them.


About 105,000,000 results
www.lmgtfy.com/?q=sun+climate+change

You could not read those in a thousand lifetimes.
Adriano
Adriano
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25 Oct 2017 3:43pm
Well just look at Venus if you're still in denial about greenhouse gas. There's so much of that odourless, invisible gas, you'd be crushed to the size of a tennis ball just standing on the surface and then morph into a cinder a few seconds later.

Harmless really.
TonyAbbott
TonyAbbott
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25 Oct 2017 4:25pm
There's the evidence that higher concentrations of carbon dioxide, which is a plant food after all, is actually greening the planet and helping to lift agricultural yields
TonyAbbott
TonyAbbott
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924 posts
25 Oct 2017 4:37pm
Adriano said..
Well just look at Venus if you're still in denial about greenhouse gas. There's so much of that odourless, invisible gas, you'd be crushed to the size of a tennis ball just standing on the surface and then morph into a cinder a few seconds later.

Harmless really.


Earths atmosphere 0.0004% co2, of which only 3% is from humans, which equates to 0.000012% of earths atmosphere!

Venus is 96% co2

Do you think comparing earth to venus it is a tad alarmist?
AUS1111
AUS1111
WA
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25 Oct 2017 5:23pm
Don't worry everybody - global warming is solved; New Zealand is going carbon Neutral
poor relative
poor relative
WA
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25 Oct 2017 5:46pm
Adriano said..
Well just look at Venus



Better than looking at Uranus
Adriano
Adriano
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11206 posts
26 Oct 2017 4:39am
Hee hee.
Adriano
Adriano
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11206 posts
26 Oct 2017 4:40am
TonyAbbott said..

Adriano said..
Well just look at Venus if you're still in denial about greenhouse gas. There's so much of that odourless, invisible gas, you'd be crushed to the size of a tennis ball just standing on the surface and then morph into a cinder a few seconds later.

Harmless really.


Earths atmosphere 0.0004% co2, of which only 3% is from humans, which equates to 0.000012% of earths atmosphere!

Venus is 96% co2

Do you think comparing earth to venus it is a tad alarmist?


Absolutely it's alarmist p brain.

Do you think comparing science to propagandist right wing crap is a tad alarmist?
jonnulla
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26 Oct 2017 12:34pm
AUS1111 said..
Don't worry everybody - global warming is solved; New Zealand is going carbon Neutral


cheers bro!
evlPanda
evlPanda
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26 Oct 2017 12:40pm
TonyAbbott said..
Earths atmosphere 0.0004% co2, of which only 3% is from humans, which equates to 0.000012% of earths atmosphere!


Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong...

It's 0.04%. Not unlike the blood alcohol limit for driving.

Over 40% of that has come from humans since the industrial revolution.

NOAA said...
Atmospheric CO2 levels have increased from about 315 ppm in 1958 to 378 ppm at the end of 2004, which means human activities have increased the concentration of atmospheric CO2 by 100 ppm or 36 percent.

source: http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2005/s2412.htm


That's 36% since 1958.

Our contribution is rising. THAT IS THE ISSUE. If it stopped now, we'd be fine. But it's not. We're getting drunk in the corner.

If my blood alcohol level was 0.04% that sounds like a very small number, yeah? But I have to drive home.
Should I start drinking stronger drinks? That's what you are advocating.



The layer of glass in a greenhouse is even less than 0.04%. The greenhouse effect is irrefutable.
evlPanda
evlPanda
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26 Oct 2017 1:06pm
AUS1111 said..
Don't worry everybody - global warming is solved; New Zealand is going carbon Neutral


I wonder if it works out cheaper, in the end.
morningsun
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26 Oct 2017 5:43pm
NOAA said...
Atmospheric CO2 levels have increased from about 315 ppm in 1958 to 378 ppm at the end of 2004, which means human activities have increased the concentration of atmospheric CO2 by 100 ppm or 36 percent.

source: www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2005/s2412.htm

NOAA's math needs some schooling;
378-
315
=63.
Its a 20% increase, which is still troubling, IF their original figures are correct.
Their original assumption that 100 is 36% of 315 is also incorrect, it is 31.75%. Who the fluck is doing the science/maths at NOAA...
If they want to be taken seriously as an academic authority on the subject some simple fact checking would be nice.
AUS1111
AUS1111
WA
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26 Oct 2017 5:53pm
evlPanda said..

AUS1111 said..
Don't worry everybody - global warming is solved; New Zealand is going carbon Neutral



I wonder if it works out cheaper, in the end.


It helps if you have lots of mountains and snow and stuff
Macroscien
Macroscien
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26 Oct 2017 8:38pm
Pugwash said..
I believe it is possible that HGO2 may have had a little too much C2H6O and should move onto a whole bunch of H2O.


C2H5OH
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