The water we drink

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FlySurfer
FlySurfer
NSW
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6 Oct 2011 3:09pm
We all know Soggy and Loggy love tap water, but what other options do you have for drinking water.

PET plastic bottles are bad.
Tap water filters: do they get rid of the fluoride?

And tap water...


Sailhack
Sailhack
VIC
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6 Oct 2011 3:16pm
That's why I drink only beer & straight spirits.
FlySurfer
FlySurfer
NSW
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6 Oct 2011 3:32pm
Sailhack said...

That's why I drink only beer & straight spirits.

Good call... did you know that in Europe every body drank beer cos the water was usually bad?

In the South they drank wine and the poorer people drank beer.

Yup straight after waking up, if you were thirsty... beer or wine was the go.

I'm not allowed to drink at work

I tried a 6 pack the other day of Coopers 62 Pilsner, not bad.
busterwa
busterwa
3782 posts
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6 Oct 2011 1:03pm
I dont understand why more people dont just collect rainwater (rainwater harvesting) you can virtually live of the beautiful rainwater in the winter months for the price of a 10/000litre tank and a small pump. In our area there is no scheme water. Most people have 100000 litre tanks to store water.
Cant beat rainwater fellas.


Plumb the house pipes into the rain water tank.

felixdcat
felixdcat
WA
3519 posts
WA, 3519 posts
6 Oct 2011 1:09pm
NAh! Just have a look at all the bad things that are in the gutters , add the dust that is on the roof and the bird craping all over. Then collect it in the tank and start breeding strange life forms give me filtered tap water anytime! Bring fluorine in!
SomeOtherGuy
SomeOtherGuy
NSW
807 posts
NSW, 807 posts
6 Oct 2011 4:14pm
I already told you Flyspot. It's in the hand hints thread - drink your own urine! It's the only 100% safe alternative.
FlySurfer
FlySurfer
NSW
4460 posts
NSW, 4460 posts
6 Oct 2011 4:18pm
busterwa said...

I dont understand why more people dont just collect rainwater (rainwater harvesting) you can virtually live of the beautiful rainwater in the winter months for the price of a 10/000litre tank and a small pump. In our area there is no scheme water. Most people have 100000 litre tanks to store water.
Cant beat rainwater fellas.


Strata made me remove mine..

dirtyharry
dirtyharry
WA
444 posts
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6 Oct 2011 1:28pm
busterwa said...

I dont understand why more people dont just collect rainwater (rainwater harvesting) you can virtually live of the beautiful rainwater in the winter months for the price of a 10/000litre tank and a small pump. In our area there is no scheme water. Most people have 100000 litre tanks to store water.
Cant beat rainwater fellas.


Plumb the house pipes into the rain water tank.




If you're using the water for things that aren't seasonal then 10kL is way too big for a normal house.

Rain tanks don't make sense in Perth or a lot of other places in Australia. In Perth, 50% of a house's annual water use happens in summer when we don't have any rain.

Studies have been done which calculate the cost of water from tanks in Perth at about $5/kL (and I reckon even then they're being too easy on rainwater harvesting). Water Corp will sell you 1 kL for about $1.50.

By my (admittedly very rough) calcs, if every house in Perth put in a tank it would cost about $1.4 billion to set up and would have very high ongoing costs relative to a reticulated supply. The tanks would produce about 40GL/yr (about the same as a desal plant which costs about $0.4 billion). That leaves $1 billion to set up a renewal energy source to run the desal plant (besides, rainwater tanks also have power requirements if set up with a pump - and if they're not set up with a pump then they're a very poor alternative to a reticulated supply system anyway).

Rainwater tanks aren't a new idea. The reason we have a reticulated water supply system that services everyone rather than individual rainwater collection is simple - if everyone pools their funds to set up a reticulated supply (such as we and every other major town/city in the developed world has/does) we end up with a more reliable system which produces water which is cleaner, cheaper and easier to manage than everyone catching and using their own rain.
jev7337
jev7337
QLD
460 posts
QLD, 460 posts
6 Oct 2011 3:33pm
busterwa said...

I dont understand why more people dont just collect rainwater (rainwater harvesting) you can virtually live of the beautiful rainwater in the winter months for the price of a 10/000litre tank and a small pump. In our area there is no scheme water. Most people have 100000 litre tanks to store water.
Cant beat rainwater fellas.


Plumb the house pipes into the rain water tank.




Rain gets acidic if you live close to a coal power station or a large poluted city. Depending on where you live it's not so safe after all.
saltiest1
saltiest1
NSW
2568 posts
NSW, 2568 posts
6 Oct 2011 4:51pm
also lead off older flashings and roof materials.
btw, perth IS a great place for it because it doesnt rain in summer. 100kl thats the idea of the larger tanks.
keep in mind theres some good bore water here as well to use.
theDoctor
theDoctor
NSW
5786 posts
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6 Oct 2011 5:03pm

But it is easier to filter out the crap from a rainwater tank than it is to filter fluoride from town water...

Sambo had a good fluoride thread running on here for ages, until the mouth breathers here complained they were offended at having to think...

Uncensored issue 25 (out now) has information on filtering fluoride out of tap water.
japie
japie
NSW
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6 Oct 2011 5:34pm
My house mate has just installed a bench top filter for $600. Apart from the fact that it does remove most fluoride and all chlorine we now have drinkable water in the house.

The chlorine smell is so bad that the dogs will avoid freshly run water.
doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
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6 Oct 2011 2:43pm
japie said...

My house mate has just installed a bench top filter for $600. Apart from the fact that it does remove most fluoride and all chlorine we now have drinkable water in the house.

The chlorine smell is so bad that the dogs will avoid freshly run water.


We have a filter as well, but I cant smell any chlorine at all in the unfiltered stuff.

We do have good tap water here tho..
Toots
Toots
WA
271 posts
WA, 271 posts
6 Oct 2011 3:25pm
When I lived in a chemical free environment, we never had any toys
SomeOtherGuy
SomeOtherGuy
NSW
807 posts
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6 Oct 2011 6:54pm
theDoctor said...


Uncensored issue 25 (out now) has information on filtering fluoride out of tap water.



I'll have a Herald and a copy of Playboy. Ta.
lotofwind
lotofwind
NSW
6451 posts
NSW, 6451 posts
6 Oct 2011 7:34pm
Fish poo in water.
When they start climbing out of the water to poo,
then I'll drink it.
doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
WA, 15849 posts
6 Oct 2011 4:42pm
lotofwind said...

Fish poo in water.
When they start climbing out of the water to poo,
then I'll drink it.


You have stopped taking your medication havnt you?!?
lotofwind
lotofwind
NSW
6451 posts
NSW, 6451 posts
6 Oct 2011 8:05pm
Yep,,,no meds anymore cause it says on the bottle "Take with a glass of water"

I dont understand the need to take fluride out of the water??
I grew up with it and have never had a filling.

Maybe its just because some dont like being forced to do anything,,even if its good for them.
dinsdale
dinsdale
WA
1227 posts
WA, 1227 posts
6 Oct 2011 5:13pm
busterwa said...

I dont understand why more people dont just collect rainwater (rainwater harvesting) you can virtually live of the beautiful rainwater in the winter months for the price of a 10/000litre tank and a small pump. In our area there is no scheme water. Most people have 100000 litre tanks to store water.
Cant beat rainwater fellas.

That's alright for you and I, in the country, but I sure wouldn't drink what comes off the roof of a city house.

GalahOnTheBay
GalahOnTheBay
NSW
4188 posts
NSW, 4188 posts
6 Oct 2011 8:20pm
In Sydney there are some places where they make you put a water tank in (for plants etc) for all new dwellings.

Not sure I would want to drink it unfiltered but a great idea for washing / watering things.

In related news, how can we have a water topic and no pm33?
dinsdale
dinsdale
WA
1227 posts
WA, 1227 posts
6 Oct 2011 5:20pm
lotofwind said...
I dont understand the need to take fluride out of the water??
I grew up with it and have never had a filling.

Maybe its just because some dont like being forced to do anything,,even if its good for them.

+1 Not I, but 5 healthy young adult offspring with 1 filling between them. (sharing it's a bit rough .

Toots
Toots
WA
271 posts
WA, 271 posts
6 Oct 2011 5:44pm
there is a filter attached to roof runoff, however in NSW, you arent allowed to plumb tank water to drinking taps where there is town water available, only to toilets, washing machine and outdoor taps for garden use.
lotofwind
lotofwind
NSW
6451 posts
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6 Oct 2011 8:55pm
Thats why in nsw we drink out of the toiletWe'll show the government that we are getting around that dirty flouride
echunda
echunda
VIC
765 posts
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6 Oct 2011 9:13pm














My holiday house at the base of Mt Buller used to have water supplied to the area which was directly pumped out of the delatite river with no treatment.

Water was superb and never had an issue.

2 years ago they upgraded the pump house and incorporated a filter and chlorination system.

Now (at times) the water is heavily chlorinated and there's now an orange slimey run off that goes back into the river 50m downstream.

But, when the river isn't high and the chlorine is low, it's the best water to drink.

Hmmmmm.....

Now I wonder what beer from snow melt would taste like?












japie
japie
NSW
7146 posts
NSW, 7146 posts
6 Oct 2011 9:56pm
doggie said...

japie said...

My house mate has just installed a bench top filter for $600. Apart from the fact that it does remove most fluoride and all chlorine we now have drinkable water in the house.

The chlorine smell is so bad that the dogs will avoid freshly run water.


We have a filter as well, but I cant smell any chlorine at all in the unfiltered stuff.

We do have good tap water here tho..


That was really crap communication on my part. The chlorine in the unfiltrered water is bad - the finished product is like nectar, Our water was so bad that I used to mask it with cordial.
Bigwavedave
Bigwavedave
QLD
2057 posts
QLD, 2057 posts
6 Oct 2011 11:22pm
I hate the taste of rainwater.

Or maybe it's the taste of frog sh1t, bird sh1t, dead rats and road dust that I don't like.
saltiest1
saltiest1
NSW
2568 posts
NSW, 2568 posts
7 Oct 2011 12:55am
japie said...

doggie said...

japie said...

My house mate has just installed a bench top filter for $600. Apart from the fact that it does remove most fluoride and all chlorine we now have drinkable water in the house.

The chlorine smell is so bad that the dogs will avoid freshly run water.


We have a filter as well, but I cant smell any chlorine at all in the unfiltered stuff.

We do have good tap water here tho..


That was really crap communication on my part. The chlorine in the unfiltrered water is bad - the finished product is like nectar, Our water was so bad that I used to mask it with cordial.




struth japie, dont be so picky, even on yourself!
dinsdale
dinsdale
WA
1227 posts
WA, 1227 posts
6 Oct 2011 10:04pm
You can only have this conversation in Oz. Ever tried tap water in the UK, most of Europe, Asia, Africa, the sub-continent, Middle East, Sth America? All that I tried in the US was OK, and I've not been Canada. I don't think I'd risk it in Mexico or Central America either.

I admit that the chlorine can smell a bit strong, especially on Summer mornings, and where I live the calcium salts get a bit strong, but from coast to coast we have potable, clean and disease free water. As for fluoride, it's in miniscule amounts and has given us a couple of generations of almost carie-free kidz. The advent of bottled water has saved the dental profession from extinction. There are a lot of urban myths about fluoride.
BulldogPup
BulldogPup
6657 posts
6657 posts
6 Oct 2011 10:57pm
nah gave up that clear stuff yonks ago myself , even tried running it off girliepups , [}:)] that tasted better but ..... Beer for me
pity the folks in the sticks that don't have tap water eh
(water is for paddlin the 'yak , board , getting fish out of etc!)
busterwa
busterwa
3782 posts
3782 posts
6 Oct 2011 11:18pm

To answer your question about " dirty roofs etc." the caps shown in the picture" ( get get diversion valves) are released first rains to flush any foreign contaminate that comes off the house roofs.
Also its neglect and absolute laziness of house owner to let there roofs get to an unmaintainable stage is a contributing factor to poor rainwater harvesting. .

Shallow bores are used for retic .

Businesses are now placing water harvesting tanks below there dwellings.

Its can be a better money saving alternative than solar panels. If desalanation plants are expencive to build and the price of water is passed onto the consumer.
Toots
Toots
WA
271 posts
WA, 271 posts
7 Oct 2011 12:11am
I know a guy who made his basement the water tank, It doubles as the Sickest Sub Woofer for the doof doof
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