Some more stuff to think about.

www.astronomy.ohio-state.edu/~pogge/Ast161/Unit4/movearth.html

You will be led to judgement like lambs to the slaughter--a simile whose existence, I might add, will not do your species any favors.

Dear the doctor in your picture you look similar too an agent off the matrix movie which government agency do you work for I understand your apprehension of allowing worker ants to know to much but haaarp is real have a look at the patents put out under mind control devices and mood altering devices by America's government Russia also has a similar project the cold war never stopped and America could only get a rocket into orbit once they stole the head Russian scientist and worked out the trajectory off 360 days a year due to a lunar cycle of 29.53 days or 360 days a year during this time they also funded Afghanistan to shoot down Russian helicopters and steal the little box that's a maP which we now know as gps apparently they then lande a rocket on the moon only two years after that bit suspicious if you drop a feather and hammer on the moon they both hit the ground at the same time bull**** watch it on you tube it's easy to believe a big lie rather than a lot of little ones

theDoctor said...



i love how someone who believes in the principles and effecs of haarp is convinced the earth is motionless...

dude you're losing it

Question: “The fixed atmosphere and the movement of the Sun, I had somebody on [international] radio ask me today how did I know the Earth is stationary and motionless, and I said, well, first of all we feel and sense no movement so that told me something was wrong right away. But we can see from the time-lapse photographs and our very own eyes that the Sun is changing position from East-to-West, we can tell that people are not affected by any continuous, perpetual strong winds so how could the Earth be rotating at 1,000 miles per hour, in other words the whole story they've been telling us is nonsense. What's the real story as far as you've been able to figure out?”

Response: “Well, what's really interesting though, when you consider if the Government or NASA, if they had said to you that the Earth is stationary. Imagine that. And then imagine we are trying to convince people that 'no, no' it's not stationary, it's moving forward at 32 times rifle bullet speed and spinning at 1,000 miles per hour. We would be laughed at, we would have so many people telling us, are you crazy, the Earth is not moving, we would be ridiculed for having no scientific backing for this convoluted moving theory. And not only that but then people would say, oh then how do you explain a fixed, calm atmosphere and the Sun's observable movement, how do you explain that? Imagine saying to people, 'no, no' the atmosphere is moving also but is somehow magically velcroed to the moving-Earth, the reason is not simply because the Earth is stationary. So what we are actually doing is what makes sense. We are saying that the moving-Earth theory is nonsense, the stationary-Earth theory makes sense and we are being ridiculed. You've got to picture it being the other way around to realize just how RIDICULOUS this situation is. This theory from the Government and NASA that the Earth is rotating and orbiting and leaning over and now they have wobbling is absolute nonsense and yet people are clinging to it, tightly, like a teddy bear, they just can't bring themselves to face the possibility that the Earth is stationary but ALL the evidence shows it, we feel no movement, the atmosphere hasn't been blown away, we see the Sun move from East-to-West, everything can be explained by a motionless Earth without bringing in all these assumptions to cover up previous assumptions gone bad."

petermac33 said...

theDoctor said...



i love how someone who believes in the principles and effecs of haarp is convinced the earth is motionless...

dude you're losing it

Question: “The fixed atmosphere and the movement of the Sun, I had somebody on [international] radio ask me today how did I know the Earth is stationary and motionless, and I said, well, first of all we feel and sense no movement so that told me something was wrong right away. But we can see from the time-lapse photographs and our very own eyes that the Sun is changing position from East-to-West, we can tell that people are not affected by any continuous, perpetual strong winds so how could the Earth be rotating at 1,000 miles per hour, in other words the whole story they've been telling us is nonsense. What's the real story as far as you've been able to figure out?”

Response: “Well, what's really interesting though, when you consider if the Government or NASA, if they had said to you that the Earth is stationary. Imagine that. And then imagine we are trying to convince people that 'no, no' it's not stationary, it's moving forward at 32 times rifle bullet speed and spinning at 1,000 miles per hour. We would be laughed at, we would have so many people telling us, are you crazy, the Earth is not moving, we would be ridiculed for having no scientific backing for this convoluted moving theory. And not only that but then people would say, oh then how do you explain a fixed, calm atmosphere and the Sun's observable movement, how do you explain that? Imagine saying to people, 'no, no' the atmosphere is moving also but is somehow magically velcroed to the moving-Earth, the reason is not simply because the Earth is stationary. So what we are actually doing is what makes sense. We are saying that the moving-Earth theory is nonsense, the stationary-Earth theory makes sense and we are being ridiculed. You've got to picture it being the other way around to realize just how RIDICULOUS this situation is. This theory from the Government and NASA that the Earth is rotating and orbiting and leaning over and now they have wobbling is absolute nonsense and yet people are clinging to it, tightly, like a teddy bear, they just can't bring themselves to face the possibility that the Earth is stationary but ALL the evidence shows it, we feel no movement, the atmosphere hasn't been blown away, we see the Sun move from East-to-West, everything can be explained by a motionless Earth without bringing in all these assumptions to cover up previous assumptions gone bad."

oh i get it now... its like when i'm on a train right, it doesn't feel like i'm moving but i somehow arrive at a destination...

so the train must stay stationary and everything else must move... i get it, that sneaky guv'met an dem space boys at nasa sure had me fooled...!

wasn't the art bell coast to coast you were listening to by chance....?

p.s, how do we direct haarp if the atmosphere (or the earth for that matter) doesn't move...?

We have been duped so many times doc,but somehow they would never,ever lie to us about this,right on doc.

To not be open to even the possibility doc,shows how well a job they've done on their teaching programme on this matter.

Next doc, you might start believing building 7 just had to fall in near perfect symmetry due to all the fallen debris/fire


www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2011/11/earth-is-not-moving.html

I read in a book that the earth is flat and supported on the back of 4 elephants who are themself standing on 4 turtles and it is cruising aroud the univers! Must be real it is in a book, one of the scientist in that book, by the name of Rincewind tells all about it! HE EVEN WENT TO THE EDGE AND NEARLY FELT!

I have bad news for you guys

All world is just creation of my imagination ! When I die you are all cease to exist

dinsdale said...

felixdcat said...
I read in a book that the earth is flat and supported on the back of 4 elephants who are themself themselves standing on 4 turtles and ...

One turtle! If you're going to get all scientific then at least be accurate .

just testing Dinds..... just testing!

petermac33 said...

You can believe till your last breath what you want/what they teach you to believe,aka man-made global warming.I will continue to believe the earth is motionless till i see evidence to the contrary. Getting into a technical discussion just clouds the debate,clearly the earth is still---period.

Some 'evidence to the contrary' eh?
If you get in any aeroplane and sit on the same heading according to the directional gyro, for every hour you follow it, it will be 15 degrees in error. So after 2 hours it will be up to 30 degrees off course, 4 hours will be 60 degrees off course so it will be hard not to notice.
No problem if you weren't going anywhere but big problem if you actually wanted to go in a straight line. You have to reset them every 15 minutes or so. Why is this?
It's because the earth rotates and the gyro always points to the same position in space, not the same position on earth. If the earth was motionless then the gyro procession would be close to zero and it would be random, this way or that way. All gyros process the same way depending on the hemisphere they are in, north or south.
It's not random and it's always 15 degrees per hour, which coincidentally is the rate of rotation of planet earth. (360 divide by 24) = 15 deg per hour)
This is NOT a coincidence. It is a proof of a scientific fact The earth rotates once every 24 hours..


The fact that the earth is spinning has been used to navigate ships for the last 100 years and still is, even in this day of GPS and everything else electronic.
A gyro compass relies on the spin of the earth to find true north. Not magnetic north but TRUE north. That is the northern point on the planet which lies on the axis on which the EARTH ROTATES. If the earth didn't rotate every gyro compass on every large ship would stop working. And even in this day and age of GPS it is still mandatory to have a gyro compass onboard large vessels for navigation.
You can look up gyro compasses on Wikicleverdick. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyrocompass

This is the device which was at the heart of the inertial navigation systems which we used to navigate nuclear subs, ocean liners and airliners. The science is good and it's reliable. You can take it that the earth DOES rotate.
If anyone can come up with an even half convincing proof that it doesn't could you let the world know before there are some serious collisions.

petermac33 said...
www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/2011/11/earth-is-not-moving.html

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Whoah whoah whoah...

The most-well known of these is the Michelson-Morley experiment which attempted to measure the change in speed of light due to the assumed motion of Earth through space. They measured in every different direction in various places on the Earth's surface and failed to detect any significant change whatsoever.

Of course not. C is the constant. The whole theory of relativity was driven by this experiment (or at least partly).

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Einstein's theory of relativity is accepted worldwide as gospel truth, even though he himself admitted geocentricism is equally justifiable.

Ok. read further - jumped the gun.

This is actually what I've said above and above. Both are true. Really. Truly.
The Earth spins ...and it doesn't.

SomeOtherGuy said...

pweedas I think that'll prove too complimacated for pete.

PM, here's a little test for you:

Go out, watch the stars go overhead for a few nights. You can see it for yourself with some patience that they slowly travel east to west don't they?

Now go down near the south pole (Or north pole if you prefer... say Alaska or Greenland). Watch them for a few nights down there. How come the stars that go east/west here in the temperate zones go around and around in a circle in the arctic zones? Same stars. Same planet.

If you have to spell it out, its generally not worth it SOG.

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GalahOnTheBay said...

Lies.

No one has ever been to the poles. They did all that stuff in a movie studio in Nevada.

Now here's an interesting question - put a beetle in a tin and it'll usually work it's way to the top and then go around and around and around and...

Question is - which way around do they go? And does it depend on which hemisphere they're in?? I mean, is there a coriolis force for beetles?

PM! Some homework for you. I'd like an answer and unquestionable youchoob proof thanks!

OH dear, should I give up now? It's all getting a bit tedious, all though some of the asides are quite humorous.

OK Peter, how do you explain the phases of the moon?
If the earth doesn't spin, the sun and moon both rotate around the earth daily, whereas the standard theory of moon phases relies on the moon spinning round the earth every 28 days???????

why would the atmosphere be stationary? It's an inherent part of the earth, there's no reason to suppose it's somehow separate and the earth has to spin in it. So of course there's no wind evidence of the earth's spin.

And your sense of speed is purely relative.
Have you ever flown by jetliner???? That's going at a reasonable percentage of the Earth's speed near the equator. But if there's no turbulence and the windows are shut, there's also no sensation of speed!!!!! You judge your speed relative to your surroundings, if everything around you moves at the same speed as you, you do feel stationary.

There's no evolutionary reason why we should be able to sense absolute motion.
Our senses have developed purely in response to relative movement.

(but I guess it's doubtful you pay much credence to evolution either)