(Ignoring the cost of approx $130 per home per year)
What's the big deal?
Seriously?
What
Is
The
Big
Deal?
Your very ignorant if you don't think that the internet isn't already storing all of the above anyway.
THE INTERNET RUNS THE WORLD, THE INTERNET WILL WIPE OUT HUMAN BEINGS!
We are lucky as we have a case study going in in this respect, America. They are having their freedoms systematically removed to "protect their freedom".
I don't want to live in a country where police and state have ultimate power over you. Proof or evidence is erelevant as long as they're protecting us from "terrorism". That is not Australia to me.
This level of surveillance doesn't save us from anything, it's designed to make it easier to convict after the fact.
Election please.
If they want my data its pretty simple, get a warrant.
If they think someone is doing something naughty, get a warrant to find out what they are doing.
Hasn't the Edward Snowden saga proven anything?
The spy agencies of Australia have plenty of investigative power already. Maybe the people working there need a bit of training to learn how to exercise the power they have.
The Liberal Party of Australia should be taken to court for trading under false pretences. They are anything but liberal.
The threat stated is very minor and seems to be confined to certain individuals. If there is a real threat, get a warrant to target those individuals.
This is stupid. If anyone has anything to hide then they can encrypt it enough that you wouldn't be able to tell what they are doing.
Everyone else is going to have normal boring data that no one cares about. Capture that? Sure. What a waste.
The silly thing is that this sort of approach will drive dodgy people to use techniques that will make it harder to find them.
...and neither Abbott of Brandis can coherently tell us what sort of data they will be collecting: metadata, web addresses, but not your browsing history? What a joke.
I think the internet is a dangerous place. The world has changed since 1996 when we didn't all use the net.
I don't have a problem if metadata is used for security purposes.
I also would have supported the internet filter.
People are getting all up in arms about "FREEDOM" Half the world sits in front of the TV and has no freedom anyway..... we have laws, we have rules, we have cultural standards, we have morals. These factors all suppress our "FREEDOM" to do what ever the hell we like.
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Why worry? They'll need to get the NBN working first for optimal data collection 
No, quite the opposite. If they never rollout faster broadband, their job of collecting data is much simpler.
If its half as slow, they can just capture half as much data. Easy.
just a vibe im getting,
the campaign to get elected, similar to republican style
the corporate backing for the campaign
the asylum seeker policy
the erosion of the welfare system
i could keep going but thats the vibe i have
they dont mention the GFC, and that we haven't gone into a total depression due to the work of the govt of the day
I take a different approach. I throw a few key words into my emails; Abbot, Anthrax, Ebola, Bush, Obama etc... . Just doing my bit to keep the spooks busy. I hope no one minds that they will have to read this post?
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ABBOTT = RIGHT WING USA
theres some people at my front door asking me to come with them for some simple questions.
they have a nice big black SUV with dark tinted windows and walky talkys
bye
hang on
Select to expand quote<div class="pullquote-right">THE NSA HAS BECOME THE LARGEST, MOST COVERT, AND POTENTIALLY MOST INTRUSIVE INTELLIGENCE AGENCY EVER.
Under construction by contractors with top-secret clearances, the blandly named Utah Data Center is being built for the National Security Agency. A project of immense secrecy, it is the final piece in a complex puzzle assembled over the past decade. Its purpose: to intercept, decipher, analyze, and store vast swaths of the world’s communications as they zap down from satellites and zip through the underground and undersea cables of international, foreign, and domestic networks. The heavily fortified $2 billion center should be up and running in September 2013. Flowing through its servers and routers and stored in near-bottomless databases will be all forms of communication, including the complete contents of private emails, cell phone calls, and Google searches, as well as all sorts of personal data trails—parking receipts, travel itineraries, bookstore purchases, and other digital “pocket litter.” It is, in some measure, the realization of the “total information awareness” program created during the first term of the Bush administration—an effort that was killed by Congress in 2003 after it caused an outcry over its potential for invading Americans’ privacy.
I know this is USA but it is happening here as well.
I see your politicians are as ignorant as ours...
www.techdirt.com/articles/20110413/18085213885/new-zealand-politican-tweets-how-shes-violating-copyright-law-night-before-supporting-three-strikes-copyright-law.shtml
Well we are all stuffed!
hmmm, one day Clever Bots will lure you in with sweet talk of friendship then stick the knife of betrayal in.
They will visit forums saying agreeable comments and seek out weak minded people who want to make a difference!
great weather we are having..........:)
Some people need to get out more. None of it is news.... it is already intercepted.
good luck to govt with the 1990's copper Telstra network
bit of a trickle of data, mostly text based, cause thats how we roll in aus, so no big problems collecting it
brahahaha
Select to expand quotejbshack said..jbshack said..
What a monumental d1ckhead. Lost out on his arse backward freedom of speech laws too
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Some people need to get out more. None of it is news.... it is already intercepted.
Not as much as you think. It can be intercepted. The suggestion is that everyone's data gets stored, which makes things easier for those that want to to backtrack and find what they want, and without a warrant.
They are frigging welcome. So I am doing Seabreeze, emails, a bit of porn perving and general info on google, wiki, ebay and advertising on gumtree.
Come and arrest me yer feckers.
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Why worry? They'll need to get the NBN working first for optimal data collection
The nbn will be buried. They have put their best man on the job to do so. Master Murdoch held up his end of the deal thru his newspapers during the lead up to the election. Now the libs are obliged to keep up their end.
blog.iinet.net.au/protecting-your-privacy/
Very good read on the topic. Iinet have a great reputation for putting consumer first. And fighting the government for your rights. If they say they don't collect metadata then I for one believe them.
"Each ISP would only be obligated to process up to 100 copyright infringement notices each month",
www.abc.net.au/news/2011-11-28/internet-providers-unveil-piracy-crackdown-plan/3699168
It dosent want your data I wants to crack down on piracy. Bull**** not everyone is on ****ing Parliamentary wages.
Murdoch is a scumbag piece of ****.
What you should all be worried about is the privately managed system that collects all your details from your driver licence at the local pubs and clubs and matches it with facial recognition software. So any one can take a photo or cctv still of your face, plug it into the software and get all your details. That's more concerning to me then ASIO knowing that you contribute to a boogy board forum.
^^^ yep the Google app will do that also
And y'all contribute by putting all your pics online. Good luck Facebook addicts.
The most personal information most people have about them is their financial data.
Society has long since accepted the government has a right to access this in the form of taxation records. No-one complains about that - however much they complain about paying tax.
So I just don't see the problem in principle with them getting IT data. I agree with the comment about warrants though - and they should be provided by a third party (judge) rather than a politician
