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GypsyDrifter
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1 Jun 2011 12:13am
ockanui said...

In this guy's life a paring back of what really is important, health, family and happiness with the material possession thing way back in the distance.
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Balance, I think is the key in all aspects of our life's also we are all lucky to have surfing as a centering of balance that helps that focus , well at least in my life..... phew


Clarity about happiness does not come to everyone, even though every one strives for it.
It's just some think and feel happiness come's always in the form of the best car, the best house or the best job.

Give me a tent on a beach, a warm sunset, a fishing rod and my BF and I am happy
ockanui
ockanui
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1 Jun 2011 9:53am
I agree Gypsy with you on the varying degrees of happiness, my father in law even though we have some differences of opinion, I tend to agree with him on one thing, he called me a simple man, [it was part of his way of trying to denigrate my opinions and life style], I am a simple man and I enjoy the simplicity of keeping my outlook as uncomplicated as I can in order to free my thoughts, i am mid 50's, thankful for having no regrets in life or relationships so I am a very lucky person, mind you I had to work through the self worth and identity issues and well the financial side its ongoing, you have to work to come to some of sort of inner calm at some stage, etc etc
superlizard
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1 Jun 2011 10:28am
coming in a bit late, but beter late than never.

Doggie, I also had depression couple of times.

If there is one comforting advice I can give you it's this: - what you are going through is only a temporary state which will pass. IT WILL PASS. And when you come out of it you start enjoying life twice as much as before. What you go through makes you a stronger person in the long run - you learn a lot from it. I can say that I trully started enjoying life after having couple of depressions and going through some difficulties etc... it was a very important life learning curve. I never wish i could go back to being younger... although if i did, i'd definitelly make different choices.

But some other things i also learned:
- it's hard making actions and changes when you are depressed
- family will usually not understand you and it's waste talking to them (most of time) unless you of course have someone close and very understanding.
- Avoid negative people at all costs ... also avoid being exposed to any kind of negativity - things like newspaper and TV have so much bad and negative stuff. I felt a big difference when stopping to follow news for a while back then

SomeOtherGuy said:
The shrink told me that to beat depression I needed to fill my life with things that make me happy. You can't be depressed when you're happy she said. Thinking back, I can see that for years I had been filling my life with lots of stuff that I felt I had to do and putting off all the stuff that I enjoyed.
- Agree with that too. Although people can be trapped in a certain circumstances and can't change things straight away without paying big penalties (financial or whatever). But the key is to know that things will pass, and you just have to have a high level plan and strive towards it. You know that now it's how it is, but in X months/years you will finish your current phase and there are great things coming your way.


Also agree with Gypsy. It's not always material things that will make you happy. But you are smart and things that happen to you are only clues and pieces of the puzzle. You will use them in time to make things work better for you. Whether it's finding better job, or more fun hobbies or something else and even more meaninful... and there are such things...
ockanui
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1 Jun 2011 10:43am




GypsyDrifter
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1 Jun 2011 12:07pm
ockanui said...

I am a simple man and I enjoy the simplicity of keeping my outlook as uncomplicated as I can in order to free my thoughts, i am mid 50's, thankful for having no regrets in life or relationships so I am a very lucky person, mind you I had to work through the self worth and identity issues and well the financial side its ongoing, you have to work to come to some of sort of inner calm at some stage, etc etc


Here Here!
I'll Second that!
sbray
sbray
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1 Jun 2011 5:20pm
Doggie,

Some great advice here.
Many people care for other's situation.

Take a look at these books and the Black dog (no puns intended) website.

www.blackdoginstitute.org.au/about-us

The "black Dog " of depression is an interesting concept that does help.

As mentioned before

www.beyondblue.org.au/index.aspx?

If reading can help, remember that you don't neccessarily have to buy the books, visit your local library and see what you can borrow.

Acknowledging and understanding of these situations helps both yourself and those closest to you.
Also while you are researching have a look at " Mindfulness " as an approach to help clear your life & thoughts.

Although it sounds an odd title "Mindfullness for Dummies" is a good starting point.
The name seems to evoke a flippant attitude but it is far from that.

Fossil
doggie
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1 Jun 2011 4:11pm
sbray said...

Doggie,

Some great advice here.
Many people care for other's situation.

Take a look at these books and the Black dog (no puns intended) website.

www.blackdoginstitute.org.au/about-us

The "black Dog " of depression is an interesting concept that does help.

As mentioned before

www.beyondblue.org.au/index.aspx?

If reading can help, remember that you don't neccessarily have to buy the books, visit your local library and see what you can borrow.

Acknowledging and understanding of these situations helps both yourself and those closest to you.
Also while you are researching have a look at " Mindfulness " as an approach to help clear your life & thoughts.

Although it sounds an odd title "Mindfullness for Dummies" is a good starting point.
The name seems to evoke a flippant attitude but it is far from that.

Fossil



Thanks Fossil, going to see my local doc next week so we see what happens
last couple of days have been ok

Once again thanks to all that Pmed me and put up help on the thread its all been a great help It has tipped me over the edge to get help and not stay in the void, I will keep the thread updated once I see the doc.
Ados
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1 Jun 2011 4:30pm
Doggie, totally bummed you are going through this. I have had Bipolar disorder for most of life after being diagnosed 20 years ago (i'm 40 now) and I too struggle with the ups and downs and my downs are terrifying and prolonged.

Drugs are a must for me and have ultimately meant I can mostly function but I have found that mindfulness and cognitive behavioral therapy have been very helpful. there are lots of resources out there and people here have mentioned some good ones.

I have also learned that exercise is a really good way to get the endorphins kicking in. I'ts bloody hard when you are in a dark place but my psychologist once told me to do the opposite of what your depression is telling you to do. I still fail miserably at taking heed of her advice but it does help when i do.

A book that I find essential is called 'Beating the Blues: a self help guide to overcoming depression' by Lindsay Tanner and Susan Ball . it was recommended by my therapist and has some great advice and techniques to help.

Also, one thing that helps me is to take things one step at a time and to focus on the present as best you can. take baby steps and set achievable targets for yourself at this stage.

Remember that depression will nudge you to only see the negative side of things, but that is NOT YOU, its the depression talking. You are still the GREAT and EXCELLENT person before you became depressed and you will still be so when you start feeling better.

Most of all you are not alone in any sense. there are many people that love you and wish to see you through this, including the seabreezers.

A



62mac
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1 Jun 2011 5:13pm
Great stuff Ados,

Doggie the shortboarder from WA and a couple of us Longboarders from QLD met up for weekend in Byron .I just got off a plane from Bali and was straight in the car to pick him up for the little road trip.I was frothing to meet this doggie guy and he did not let me down,bloody champion bloke
doggie
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1 Jun 2011 5:18pm
62mac said...

Great stuff Ados,

Doggie the shortboarder from WA and a couple of us Longboarders from QLD met up for weekend in Byron .I just got off a plane from Bali and was straight in the car to pick him up for the little road trip.I was frothing to meet this doggie guy and he did not let me down,bloody champion bloke


Thanks mac, you and Vanders are great guys and it was absolute pleasure to meet both of you looking forward to next years trip
Sailhack
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2 Jun 2011 9:26am
^^^Inspiring!

Also, I saw this guy a while back on 60mins - positive attitude at its best!

GypsyDrifter
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2 Jun 2011 3:45pm
^^^^^ hes a cutie
poor relative
poor relative
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2 Jun 2011 5:56pm
Someone told me once that if your feeling down go an make something.
It works....
Craig66
Craig66
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2 Jun 2011 8:35pm


Carefully pick the people you ask for help, some people will never give the answer you're looking for.

As with my parents, they could never understand, so I stopped asking for their opinion.

Negative people need to be avoided.


Craig66
Craig66
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2 Jun 2011 8:37pm
poor relative said...

Someone told me once that if your feeling down go an make something.
It works....


like a bigger shed :)
GRunner
GRunner
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2 Jun 2011 9:19pm
There is an old budhust saying something like this:
You can't change the past, but you can f#*k up the present by worrying about the future.
pierrec45
pierrec45
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2 Jun 2011 9:22pm

(...) some people will never give the answer you're looking for.

You have to be careful with this one. If you're looking for a specific answer, don't ask.

I have a couple of crazy in-laws that ask for support and see shrinks, but really it's just to be vindicated in their behaviour.

On the contrary, you want someone who will challenge you, bring different angles to the question, kicks you in the arse when you spend too much time in bed, and above all, that you really know cares.
teatrea
teatrea
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2 Jun 2011 10:10pm
Get out doors as much as you can , re-connect with nature.Do some gardening , take time to smell the roses.Re discover the sense of awe you had when you where a kid.

Most important keep a sense of humour about everything , even your own situation.

Good Luck
mineral1
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2 Jun 2011 9:22pm
I suppose I can count myself one of the lucky ones and made it this far in life not needing to look for any help.
However Doggie there is one of the best guys in WA on this web site.
www.ioa.uwa.edu.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0007/1147408/JKreig.pdf

Our Company has him ( Julian Kreig) travel to all our regional workshops and at Guildford to run sessions. This guy is a bloody legend. His background is a Trades person many years back. He runs state wide
You get stuck, mate give him a call 24/7, and yes he has up-graded the Ute in the photo He reckons he wore it out.
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