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Created by remery > 9 months ago, 3 Jul 2024
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psychojoe
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6 Aug 2024 8:14PM
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And although nearly all of the Covid mitigation measures were carried out with the best of intentions. If an intellectual can't comprehend how a lesser might perceive it all as a dystopian control project, then said intellectual has a striking lack of empathy.

Pcdefender
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6 Aug 2024 9:43PM
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And although nearly all of the Covid mitigation measures were carried out with the best of intentions........and pigs can fly.

Rango
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6 Aug 2024 10:06PM
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And although nearly all of the Covid mitigation measures were carried out with the best of intentions. If an intellectual can't comprehend how a lesser might perceive it all as a dystopian control project, then said intellectual has a striking lack of empathy.



Intellectual is too much of a flattering name for someone who relishes or even craves for totalitaian control.

FormulaNova
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7 Aug 2024 6:07AM
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remery said..
psychojoe said..
And although nearly all of the Covid mitigation measures were carried out with the best of intentions. If an intellectual can't comprehend how a lesser might perceive it all as a dystopian control project, then said intellectual has a striking lack of empathy.


I'm sure with your I new-found interest in half-wits and intellectuals, you would have come across the Dunning-Kruger Effect.


Ooh, dangerous ground. There seem to be a few interpretations of what it means... Some don't realise what Dunning and Kruger were getting at. Some disagree with it.

Getting back to the point though, I am sure someone smart can see that others may see it as a way to control the world. Whether they would have empathy or not is a different call. Sadly I had to look up the definitions of both intellect(ual) and empathy.

D3
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7 Aug 2024 7:56AM
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Rango said..



Intellectual is too much of a flattering name for someone who relishes or even craves for totalitaian control.


Spot on! Just look at Trump!

philn
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7 Aug 2024 9:53AM
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She looks nothing like a female growing up or at present.



The RWMediosphere seems to be taking the approach that anyone they deem not attractive enough for them to deflower must automatically be a biological male.

remery
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7 Aug 2024 11:14AM
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"There are dozens of ways that chromosomes can be much more complex than XX and XY. Referred to as DSDs (differences in sex development), not all of them result in an intersex condition, and many only manifest at the onset of puberty.

De la Chapelle syndrome (46,XX Male) occurs when the SRY gene from the sperm parent crosses over into a non-Y-bearing sperm during spermatogenesis. When the egg and sperm merge, it results in an XX embryo with an SRY gene, creating a phenotypically-male child with two X chromosomes.

Swyer syndrome (46,XY Female) produces a phenotypically-female child with an XY chromosome. This results from a dozen different genetic conditions, including:
Absence or defect of an SRY gene
Absence or defect of DHH synthesis
Absence of the SF-1 protein due to adrenal failure
Absence of or defect the CBX2 gene, preventing TDF cascade

XX gonadal dysgenesis is very similar to Swyer syndrome, except it occurs in XX children and results in nonfunctional ovaries.

Turner syndrome (45,X) produces a phenotypically-female child with numerous abnormalities. It occurs when neither an X or Y chromosome crosses over from the sperm.

Klinefelter syndrome (47,XXY) results in a phenotypically-male child with more feminine traits. In extremely rare cases it appears in female-assigned children as well, resulting in feminized testicles instead of ovaries.

48,XXXY Klinefelter syndrome has similar results to 47,XXY Klinefelter syndrome, but with more intense health issues.

49,XXXXY Klinefelter syndrome is often fatal, but when it isn't, it often results in a sterile child.

Trisomy X (47,XXX), Tetrasomy X (48,XXXX), and Pentasomy X (49,XXXXX) all result in a female child, but with progressively more intense health issues.

XXYY Syndrome results in male children (due to two SRY genes) who often experience hypogonadism, needing testosterone supplements, but otherwise seeming like a typical male.

Mosaicism results when some cells in the body have one set of chromosomes and other cells have another due to a mutation of the genome during gestation. This may be XX/XY (resulting in a dual set of genitalia), X/XY (a milder form of Swyer or Turner syndromes) or XX/XXY (a milder form of Klinefelter syndrome).

Chimerism occurs when two fertilized embryos merge together into one zygote, causing half of the child to contain one set of DNA and the other half to contain another. This can result in an otherwise completely typical human being of either male or female phenotype, even capable of producing offspring, but which comes back on a karyotype test as not matching their phenotype based on where the sample was taken on their body. In extremely rare cases this can result in two full sets of reproductive organs.

Congenital adrenal hyperplasia (CAH) is masculinization of the female genitals in an XX child due to overactive adrenal glands.

Androgen insensitivity syndrome (AIS) is a total or partial resistance to all androgens, preventing masculinization of all organs, save for the testicles, in an XY child. AIS subjects typically develop a female gender identity, but some partial cases may be male.

5-alpha-reductase deficiency (5ARD) is a failure in the body's ability to metabolize testosterone into dihydrotestosterone (DHT), preventing masculinization of the genitalia until the onset of puberty, when the child suddenly grows a penis.

Aromatase deficiency causes masculinization of an otherwise female child due to excess levels of testosterone (and can bleed over into the mother during gestation).

Aromatase excess causes feminisation in an otherwise male child, as all testosterone is converted into estrogen.

fangman
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7 Aug 2024 12:39PM
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Wow the list/knowledge base has got way bigger! The human body is just so extraordinarily complex it almost defies logic that there would only be two models.
Just realised what I wrote, 'defying logic'... never seen that happen on here.

Pcdefender
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7 Aug 2024 4:49PM
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There are of course only two genders though the woke movement now believe there are many.

Pcdefender
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7 Aug 2024 5:08PM
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Biological dudes participating in female sports should not be allowed - period.

There are thousands of examples of this.

Why would you enter into a woman's contest as a dude just to get a 'win'?

Three biological males at the Washington State Cycling Championship took the gold, silver and bronze medals in the women's division

Californian Eva Lin 29 used to race as Henry Lin for San Jose State University men's team but his placings have since soared since he made the switch to the women's team in 2022

You can't make this sh/t up.

fangman
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7 Aug 2024 5:26PM
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@PcDefender how do you decide which gender a person should compete in?

Pcdefender
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7 Aug 2024 5:29PM
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If there are any doubts you could always ask them to drop them lol.

FormulaNova
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7 Aug 2024 5:40PM
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If there are any doubts you could always ask them to drop them lol.


You have put your foot in it there, I guess showing how difficult this topic is. In the case of the boxer, she is physically female, and was born that way. Even if her chromosomes may be different, physically she is female.

fangman
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7 Aug 2024 7:35PM
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If there are any doubts you could always ask them to drop them lol.


So by your argument the boxer that has your knickers in a twist should compete in the female division. lol.

psychojoe
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7 Aug 2024 7:40PM
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A lot of focus has been cast upon the boxer to champion this issue. She may be legit but also incredibly rare. The rest are just dickless men.

D3
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7 Aug 2024 7:56PM
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????

D3
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7 Aug 2024 7:58PM
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No, the boxer got accused of not being a woman so that she would have an unfair advantage in competition.

Pcdefender
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7 Aug 2024 8:12PM
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How would you determine the gender of an athlete?

remery
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7 Aug 2024 8:21PM
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A lot of focus has been cast upon the boxer to champion this issue. She may be legit but also incredibly rare. The rest are just dickless men.


I think you will find that... "Disorders of sex development (DSDs) are estimated to be prevalent in 0.1-2% of the global population, although these figures are unlikely to adequately represent non-white patients as they are largely based on studies performed in Europe and the USA."

I wouldn't call that incredibly rare.

Brent in Qld
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7 Aug 2024 9:07PM
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Introduction to Bonhoeffer's theory of stupidity.

Subsonic
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7 Aug 2024 9:09PM
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remery said..

Pcdefender said..

Why you are still allowed to post on General Discussion is beyond me.

You should not be suspended but banned indefinitely.





Crying to the mods again because the lack the intellect to defend your bigoted comments.


I don't think you've started this thread to bash him, and fair enough having the arguments in threads he starts, but there are a nom of threads in general discussion that you've more than likely started to taunt him. you've also called him a number of names above in this thread that probably don't pass muster so far as the forum rules go. I'd keep your head down a bit more if you like being here, and still having shooting the breeze open.

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As usual you are making sh/t up because you are a l/ar and an /diot.




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(which wouldn't surprise me because you are a creep)


fangman
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7 Aug 2024 9:14PM
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I think the issue is that @PcDefender disparaged the eligibility of the boxer, but seems to have no method to determine in which gender the person should compete, other than having checking for descended testes. The object of his derision, apparently does not have descended testes and for all intents, presents with female genitalia.
So what is getting his knickers in a twist about? Is it just the usual trolling, or is there some yet to be seen critical thinking to his stance I wonder?
As Remery, D3 and FN and possibly others have noted, this is way more complex than a straight binary option. Bigoted trolling is unhelpful and harmful and perhaps that should be what draws the interest of the mods.

FormulaNova
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7 Aug 2024 9:43PM
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Pcdefender said..
remery said..

Pcdefender said..
If there are any doubts you could always ask them to drop them lol.



If you asked to see the genitals of the Algerian boxer (which wouldn't surprise me because you are a creep), you would find a vagina. You know what a vagina is right?


Why you are still allowed to post on General Discussion is beyond me.

You should not be suspended but banned indefinitely.


Sorry, whilst I agree that Remery should relax a bit more, I have to draw attention to the 'banned indefinitely' comment.

Has anyone here ever changed their login (actually created a new one rather than changing the name) to circumvent a ban on here? Maybe I should have instead of clocking up a ridiculous amount of posts on one login.

Subsonic
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7 Aug 2024 9:51PM
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I think the issue is that @PcDefender disparaged the eligibility of the boxer, but seems to have no method to determine in which gender the person should compete, other than having checking for descended testes. The object of his derision, apparently does not have descended testes and for all intents, presents with female genitalia.
So what is getting his knickers in a twist about? Is it just the usual trolling, or is there some yet to be seen critical thinking to his stance I wonder?
As D3 and FN have noted, this is way more complex than a straight binary option. Bigoted trolling is unhelpful and harmful and perhaps that should be what draws the interest of the mods.


I'd heard that's what the go was, and I would think that'd be the crux of the matter. It's either testes (descended or undescended) which predominantly produce testosterone and a masculine physique, and a significant physical advantage over an actual female opponent. Or its ovaries, which predominantly produce oestrogen, and a feminine physique,


I wouldn't say it's complex. Regardless of the physical genitalia, that's what should be considered when the decision is made as to whom they should compete against.

Subsonic
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7 Aug 2024 9:52PM
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FormulaNova said..

Pcdefender said..

remery said..


Pcdefender said..
If there are any doubts you could always ask them to drop them lol.




If you asked to see the genitals of the Algerian boxer (which wouldn't surprise me because you are a creep), you would find a vagina. You know what a vagina is right?



Why you are still allowed to post on General Discussion is beyond me.

You should not be suspended but banned indefinitely.



Sorry, whilst I agree that Remery should relax a bit more, I have to draw attention to the 'banned indefinitely' comment.

Has anyone here ever changed their login (actually created a new one rather than changing the name) to circumvent a ban on here? Maybe I should have instead of clocking up a ridiculous amount of posts on one login.


Lol

psychojoe
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8 Aug 2024 4:58AM
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psychojoe said..
A lot of focus has been cast upon the boxer to champion this issue. She may be legit but also incredibly rare. The rest are just dickless men.



I think you will find that... "Disorders of sex development (DSDs) are estimated to be prevalent in 0.1-2% of the global population, although these figures are unlikely to adequately represent non-white patients as they are largely based on studies performed in Europe and the USA."

I wouldn't call that incredibly rare.


I have to give you this one. One in a thousand isn't incredibly rare, I had thought the figure was ten fold smaller. Still a lot rarer than a Covax side effect.

fangman
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8 Aug 2024 9:23AM
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fangman said..
I think the issue is that @PcDefender disparaged the eligibility of the boxer, but seems to have no method to determine in which gender the person should compete, other than having checking for descended testes. The object of his derision, apparently does not have descended testes and for all intents, presents with female genitalia.
So what is getting his knickers in a twist about? Is it just the usual trolling, or is there some yet to be seen critical thinking to his stance I wonder?
As D3 and FN have noted, this is way more complex than a straight binary option. Bigoted trolling is unhelpful and harmful and perhaps that should be what draws the interest of the mods.




I'd heard that's what the go was, and I would think that'd be the crux of the matter. It's either testes (descended or undescended) which predominantly produce testosterone and a masculine physique, and a significant physical advantage over an actual female opponent. Or its ovaries, which predominantly produce oestrogen, and a feminine physique,


I wouldn't say it's complex. Regardless of the physical genitalia, that's what should be considered when the decision is made as to whom they should compete against.



Agreed that sex is determined by eggs or stem apparatus, but I do think it gets tricky when the brain and rest of the body aren't following the plan, as per some of Remery's list. But then again, maybe I am just over thinking this, because you have to draw the line somewhere and for the large majority, the above is solution will work just fine.

fangman
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8 Aug 2024 5:29PM
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Art imitating life?
www.betootaadvocate.com/sports/man-whose-brain-has-been-****ed-by-algorithms-was-fully-prepared-to-believe-that-the-strict-muslim-nation-of-algeria-had-gone-woke/



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