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subasurf
subasurf
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29 Nov 2011 9:44pm
We're calling you a knob for wishing death upon people you don't even know.

We're talking about motorbikes on a surfing/windsurfing/sailing forum because we're in the General Discussion forum.
echunda
echunda
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30 Nov 2011 12:46am
felixdcat said...

Bah, japs bikes... they all look the same... like they are designed by anime designers! Give me any good old Guzzi, Ducati, Norton or BMW they are bikes!


What wins on Sunday sells on Monday.

Ducati havn't built anything decent since Massimo Tamburini designed the 916. **The only exception was the superbike they built for the road** but again not a new idea. the Japanese were doing this for ages in the 90's (RC30, RC45, R1 SP, ZXRR series)

The notion that because it's Italian means quality is rubbish. I used to own a TM and while I loved it and it was hand built, it was the most tempremental and mostly useless bike I've owned.

Moto Guzzi kept the same basic engine design since 1940's. The gearbox design was based on a tractor (no shyt) and riding one showed how vague a bike can feel going around corners. The advatage of a guzzi is they just kept going. The engines were so understressed that they didn't stop. Reminds me of a Briggs and Stratten lawn mower. They just don't die.

I'll post my best and worst when I can be bothered.
FlySurfer
FlySurfer
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30 Nov 2011 12:55am
subasurf said...

Definitely not a bad vehicle ability wise...just **** ugly, in my opinion.
They were going for the whole old school cruiser look and failed miserably.


Well they didn't go for old school, they went with a modern FJ40 (1960)


But it's a thirsty 4L, weighs 2.2 tons and uses premium unleaded... imagine that with central Australian petrol prices oh and costs $50k.

I'm still going with cool.

What about the Cube?




I've seen a couple just like this ^^^ around Sydney, and somebody at work has 1... looks kind of cool in person... looks stupid in the pics.
busterwa
busterwa
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29 Nov 2011 10:35pm
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landyacht
landyacht
WA
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29 Nov 2011 10:46pm
if you want cool , just build your own.
great feeling , pulling up in a row of hardly tractors at the local bikie pub , kicking the stand out, hanging up the bike helmet and walking in for a can of lemonade
shared it with little stig, kicked up the stand and cruised on down the hill to the other bikie pub, to do the same
BulldogPup
BulldogPup
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29 Nov 2011 11:00pm
Yeah that's cool - BEST one far landy , absolutely mint mate +1000 for me!
Squid Lips
Squid Lips
WA
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30 Nov 2011 12:11am
This seems like bad design to me... maybe I was doing it wrong?

Mrs had a flat tyre when she left for work tonight. Pulled back in the driveway and I lifted it up and took the wheel nuts off but the wheel was still stuck tight. Had to lever it off with a lump of wood. The centre of the hub fit that tight inside the wheel it would have been impossible without some kind of lever. Putting the spare on there was about a 3mm gap between the back of the wheel and the hub that closed up by progressively tightening the wheel nuts so it pulled in square. All the cars I've owned, once you undo the nuts and the wheel practically falls off. There's no way Mrs Lips would have been able to change the wheel by herself on the side of the road. Car is a Mazda 323, about 8 years old.
desertyank
desertyank
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1264 posts
30 Nov 2011 4:30am
landyacht said...

if you want cool , just build your own.
great feeling , pulling up in a row of hardly tractors at the local bikie pub , kicking the stand out, hanging up the bike helmet and walking in for a can of lemonade
shared it with little stig, kicked up the stand and cruised on down the hill to the other bikie pub, to do the same



Mighty stylish Landyacht Cool spot for the young girlie too!!!

Been welding again, haven't you?[}:)]
hotballs
hotballs
VIC
114 posts
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30 Nov 2011 9:05am
busterwa said...

A halo brace looks ugly? Im not a knob and if you want to go and kill yourself on a motorbike in my book your more than welcome Doggie
In fact i hope you get hit by a slow moving truck on your "good looking bike"you die and then leave you wife/ mother with 3 of your kids in a trailer park to cope alone in poverty because the bread winner of the house wants to act like ****en evil kenieval. Your the irresponsible knob mate not me.


ban this dude. if you dont like bikes, dont ride one. its free world mate
sn
sn
WA
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sn sn
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30 Nov 2011 9:58am
monsterbike on youtube
as soon as I saw this on you tube- it hit me

Paul reeaaaaly needs to build one! perfect for a kalgoorlie pub crawl
(just needs a sidecar for ministig)



if link doesnt work (I'm pretty good at stuffing them up)
its under "monsterbike" on youtube


steampunkt eat your heart out!

reversing under your own steam could be difficult- but I reckon you would have no problem finding volunteers at the pub to push you out!
busterwa
busterwa
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30 Nov 2011 1:05pm
sorry people of seabreese may of mixed my medication with a few to many coronas last night after an epic windsurf .
subasurf
subasurf
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30 Nov 2011 1:16pm
Something is seriously wrong with you if beers and an epic windsurf puts you in such a foul mood.
busterwa
busterwa
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30 Nov 2011 2:04pm
Something is seriously wrong with you if you think your "the man to go to" for extreme sport photography. You ever been out in 40 knot winds?
Welcome to our sport of crazy mother****ers.
Just remember when you gay surfer fisherman scuba boys are coming back in in your boat because its to rough Were rigging up to go out
subasurf
subasurf
WA
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WA, 2154 posts
30 Nov 2011 2:08pm
hahaha I've never ever said I was the man for extreme photography...where do you even make this 5hit up?
I have however, said that I want to become an extreme location videographer later in life and continue on what I use to do for a living...


As for being in high winds...yes mate, I have. Welcome to mountaineering in the French Alps and Asia.
busterwa
busterwa
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30 Nov 2011 2:17pm





subasurf

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Just a young Perth guy born and bred. Grew up on the water and cannot get enough of it. Studying Marine Science this year and trying to get to Bali as much as humanly possible.

Heavily into film making also and want to establish myself later in life as a go-to guy for getting extreme location footage such as high altitude, remote locations and ofcourse, under water.
subasurf
subasurf
WA
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30 Nov 2011 2:18pm
Did you miss the bit where I said "want to establish"?
Or are you mixing coronas and medication again?
busterwa
busterwa
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3782 posts
30 Nov 2011 2:20pm
I missed the bit where it said that you wanted to place doggies dick in your mouth.
subasurf
subasurf
WA
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30 Nov 2011 2:21pm
Yeah I edited that bit out.
barn
barn
WA
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30 Nov 2011 2:33pm
I didn't see anything wrong with buster posting the Halo thing. A few of the bikers here seem a little too defensive, which is normally a sign of insecurity. Telling him to FO and calling him names was always gong to provoke a response.

It's undeniable that bikes are far more unroadworthy than the least safe Automobile available today, they really should be illegal.

And the fact that we all pay taxes to the Public Health system, which looks after loads of half dead Ex-bikers means all bikers are fair game for mockery.

Motocycles = bad design.







FlySurfer
FlySurfer
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30 Nov 2011 5:40pm
busterwa said...

I missed the bit where it said that you wanted to place doggies dick in your mouth.


Your words betray your thoughts.
subasurf
subasurf
WA
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WA, 2154 posts
30 Nov 2011 2:41pm
barn said...
I didn't see anything wrong with buster posting the Halo thing.


It's the part where he said he wished for one of the forum members here to be killed in a motorbike accident...that's why we think he's a tosser.
barn
barn
WA
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30 Nov 2011 2:48pm
subasurf said...

barn said...
I didn't see anything wrong with buster posting the Halo thing.


It's the part where he said he wished for one of the forum members here to be killed in a motorbike accident...that's why we think he's a tosser.


Nah it was before that, he posted the Halo pic then people laid into him and he retaliated.

I didn't see the need to be so hostile, he obviously has an opinion and is entitled to voice it, so if that backlash by the bikers on here didn't happen he probably wouldn't have said what he said later. Or whatever I don't really care it's just the internet..
chrispychru
chrispychru
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30 Nov 2011 4:51pm
this is better than jerry springer......na its not,i like the white trash biatchs getting down for a cat fight
log man
log man
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30 Nov 2011 5:53pm

"Doggie i wish youd call me that in person id stow your ****en face in . Your a weak old man ****"............ So... what's the word after old man? I've been wracking my brain but all I can come up make you sound like some old illiterate eastern European wog. Y'know ..... "you weak old man kucf" or "you weak old man ssip"...? "Weak old man tunc" is something Borat would say and just too weird. and what's "stow"? is that some kind of gen X talk or have you invented a word. Busta??please explain.
BulldogPup
BulldogPup
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6657 posts
30 Nov 2011 3:10pm
Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurppppppppppp! scratch , fart ....... beer anyone?
barn
barn
WA
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30 Nov 2011 3:10pm
As childish as it was Bustas immediate post above gave me a laugh. Outrageous comeback, an Eric Cartman special..
cantswm4sht
cantswm4sht
VIC
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30 Nov 2011 6:28pm
did someone say "free beer"... ? !!!
Top poster, 5 *****
You do your fellow man well,
(large green thumb)
Now,......where is it ???
slainte
slainte
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30 Nov 2011 5:40pm
BulldogPup said...

Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurppppppppppp! scratch , fart ....... beer anyone?


Fug yeah
Woodo
Woodo
WA
792 posts
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30 Nov 2011 3:50pm
busterwa said...

Something is seriously wrong with you if you think your "the man to go to" for extreme sport photography. You ever been out in 40 knot winds?
Welcome to our sport of crazy mother****ers.
Just remember when you gay surfer fisherman scuba boys are coming back in in your boat because its to rough Were rigging up to go out


WOW!!!! 40 knots!!!! You're so hardcore. Are you able to get through 'your' keyhole in such winds???
I'm astonished you get abused by people down the beach when you seem to be such a top bloke.

"Welcome to our sport of crazy mother****ers"
BAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAH

You are an absolute Flogger with no idea.
I often really do wonder how people like you go in life.
I reckon you'd struggle like f#ck.
subasurf
subasurf
WA
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30 Nov 2011 4:24pm

And the fact that we all pay taxes to the Public Health system, which looks after loads of half dead Ex-bikers means all bikers are fair game for mockery.



Same could be said about windsurfing then...because according to Buster it's like the most hardcore extreme sport there is.

I'd better not take up windsurfing or I might get myself killed tired.

The fact that someone has a hobby/sport/pursuit that has an element of risk to it does not automatically label them as a target for abuse.
Friendly ridicule is one thing (like how we all bag out each other's sports) but threatening to smash someone's skull in and wishing that they be killed in a horrific accident...that's just...well, I doubt I need to explain.
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