She has got to look at the bright side ,she has a job to fall back on , she proved to Ausie's that she can knit

Great effort after 3 years
Most political commentators , called it as it was ,without the expletives , a crock of sh.t

Big worry is , the mungbeans , will now be calling the praise of Rudd

As I said, what does the rest of the world think ?

Wtf, I said just that in the other thread.
Is there an echo in here?

Came here to red thumb Cassa, it's a knee jerk reaction to the Alan Jones label. Too late he's full already.

yes Mark, as it has been said before "now we dont get the chance to vote Julia out in an election"

and Kiteboy, isant it a pain when you vote and the red thumb doesnt get any bigger

FormulaNova said..

Cassa said..

As I said, what does the rest of the world think ?

I am overseas at the moment and have met and spoken with a lot of people from the USA. They don't know much about us at all really, let alone the names of our politicians or how our system works.

They do, on the other hand, talk about their own politicians, their own sporting teams, their own celebrities.

So, what does the rest of the world think? Nothing. They do not care at all, and they don't even notice.

you will be lucky to get a flight home as no one cares about, knows about, cant find Australia

Kevin is like a god damn cockroach . How many times does he have to be stomped on?

The majority of his party hates him despite their desperate move today, and I suspect that the near future for the party will involve more petty payback and revenge than policy. Meanwhile Abbot is going to get away with murder.


WTF

FormulaNova said..

Cassa said..

As I said, what does the rest of the world think ?

I am overseas at the moment and have met and spoken with a lot of people from the USA. They don't know much about us at all really, let alone the names of our politicians or how our system works.

They do, on the other hand, talk about their own politicians, their own sporting teams, their own celebrities.

So, what does the rest of the world think? Nothing. They do not care at all, and they don't even notice.

Yeah I have to admit that most of the time when local politics are being discussed amongst yourselves I haven't got a clue what you're talking about. It's more a case of not noticing though. I'm pretty sure most Aussie's don't know anything about Canadian politics either.

Saffer said..

The people I feel sorry for in Australia is the women. The first female prime minister should have been someone to look up to and a role model for young females. With gillard, it couldn't be further from the truth.

She was a role model, the $hit she had to endure while PM was incredible, the media(backed/owned by mining interests) were out to get her because of the mining tax and they were relentless.Not a lot new policies are popular at the time of introduction and Julia stuck to her guns against the odds but time will be the real judge of that and Abbott will go down as the biggest sook in politics when he didn't get the backing of the independents, what are his parties policies anyone know? apart from getting rid of the mining/carbon Tax how much money has gone to Libs from vested interests to get rid of these taxes?

as Mark Twain once said

"If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it"

choco said..

Saffer said..

The people I feel sorry for in Australia is the women. The first female prime minister should have been someone to look up to and a role model for young females. With gillard, it couldn't be further from the truth.

She was a role model, the $hit she had to endure while PM was incredible, the media(backed/owned by mining interests) were out to get her because of the mining tax and they were relentless.Not a lot new policies are popular at the time of introduction and Julia stuck to her guns against the odds but time will be the real judge of that and Abbott will go down as the biggest sook in politics when he didn't get the backing of the independents, what are his parties policies anyone know? apart from getting rid of the mining/carbon Tax how much money has gone to Libs from vested interests to get rid of these taxes?

as Mark Twain once said

"If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it"

Agree 100%. If voting made a difference they would make it illegal.

This is worth a read.

independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/a-fair-go-for-prime-minister-julia-gillard,5196

choco said..
She was a role model, the $hit she had to endure while PM was incredible, the media(backed/owned by mining interests) were out to get her because of the mining tax and they were relentless.Not a lot new policies are popular at the time of introduction and Julia stuck to her guns against the odds but time will be the real judge of that and Abbott will go down as the biggest sook in politics when he didn't get the backing of the independents, what are his parties policies anyone know? apart from getting rid of the mining/carbon Tax how much money has gone to Libs from vested interests to get rid of these taxes?

as Mark Twain once said

"If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it"

I don't consider someone who lied her way in to be a role model. If that's the lesson we want to teach our kids about what it requires to achieve greatness, then its a really sad reflection on where our society is right now.

Her attitude of promising and going against her promises for the sole reason of maintaining her leadership is also not a good lesson. I.e. it's okay to lie to keep yourself at the top.

And please, don't think I am saying this because I support Abbott. I don't, I think he's a douche bag along with most of the other politicians. At the moment, political parties remind me of a sewerage farm....it's the **** that seems to float to the top.

On the issue of Julie and new policies, let's be realistic about this. The policies she introduced were not about her desire to achieve greatness. The carbon tax was to keep the greens happy. The mining tax was about generating additional revenue to cover their excessive spending. The NDIS and Gonski were introduced for the sole purpose of buying votes from the public as can be seen by the timing. I.e. they will not bare the fallout of the additional spending before the elections, therefore it's an easy item to introduce at the end of the year to gain approval ratings for your party without the cost implications on the budget. if they really cared about them, why didn't they introduce them at a point where it would have impacted on their chances of a surplus.

"If voting made a difference ......."

Never a truer word said. The system is not there to make changes, it is there to keep things as they are. The sooner the majority wake up to that the sooner it can be changed.

On the issue of Julie and new policies, let's be realistic about this. The policies she introduced were not about her desire to achieve greatness. The carbon tax was to keep the greens happy. The mining tax was about generating additional revenue to cover their excessive spending. The NDIS and Gonski were introduced for the sole purpose of buying votes from the public as can be seen by the timing. I.e. they will not bare the fallout of the additional spending before the elections, therefore it's an easy item to introduce at the end of the year to gain approval ratings for your party without the cost implications on the budget. if they really cared about them, why didn't they introduce them at a point where it would have impacted on their chances of a surplus.

Wrong....just everywhere.

The Labour Party tried for years to get a price on carbon up. Rudd tried to get get it though the senate and the Coalition and the greens voted it down.To say it was to keep[ the greens happy is crap....the greens would vote with Labour anyway.

The mining tax was about getting a fair return on the enormous profits that the Miners were making. The miners reap their profit from a resource that's owned by Australians. It was a fair and reasonable tax that was destroyed by the multimillion dollar campaign mounted by the miners and their foot soldiers the Liberal party aided by the support of the right wing media.

"The NDIS and Gonski were introduced for the sole purpose of buying votes from the public as can be seen by the timing. I.e. they will not bare the fallout of the" Blah, blah blah.......I think this is probably the most cynical thing I've ever heard! Listen, just because your side of politics operates in a completely unprincipled, opportunist fashion doesn't mean we all do. This really does you no good.

"The policies she introduced were not about her desire to achieve greatness". Well that's right(for a change), She wasn't trying to "achieve greatness" she was doing something to make the lives of people with disabilities better. Y'know it's what governments do.....well Labour governments do anyway. I mean, your statement shows so much about you it's kind of depressing. To think that you think a Labour party could use disabled people and their carers...........to gain "approval ratings". OMG

Carantoc said..

Is Gonski the 'education revolution' that was spruked so hard a few years ago by the ALP, or are the Gonski reforms post the revolution, in which case what was the 'education revolution' ??


Sorry, I just googled it and found out :

the Education revolution was in fact :
?National School Pride, to refurbish buildings and construct or upgrade fixed shade structures, outdoor learning areas and sporting grounds and facilities.

Gonski therefore seems to be post-revolution. I just got confused that I thought once a revolution had occured not much else would be required for a while, and certainly not wholesale change. It seems, however, the revolution was so revolutionary that 12 months later a new revolution is required.

Mmmm maybe a common theme there somewhere ?

The BER was a measure to try to prevent the ravages of the global financial crisis. And guess what, it was incredibly successful, thousands of schools got to replace old buildings, libraries, halls etc ....AND.....we stimulated the building industries and that contributed to the huge success of the economy in the last 5 years.

Can I just remind people here that our unemployment rate is 5.4%.

Gonski is response to the poor lack funding in schools and poor results that come from that. Maybe we should have had Gonski when Mr. Carantoc was at school

dusta said..

log man said..

The BER was a measure to try to prevent the ravages of the global financial crisis. And guess what, it was incredibly successful, thousands of schools got to replace old buildings, libraries, halls etc ....AND.....we stimulated the building industries and that contributed to the huge success of the economy in the last 5 years.

Can I just remind people here that our unemployment rate is 5.4%.

Gonski is response to the poor lack funding in schools and poor results that come from that. Maybe we should have had Gonski when Mr. Carantoc was at school

guess what it was an incredible waste of money .

Schools were getting buildings they didn't need , the whole BER was a waste of our money . Just like Kevin07's 55" lcd screen stimulus .

i work in alot of schools and have seen how there is so much wasted money from BER

Umm! the Orgill report! have a look at it and see if the money was well spent. And while your at have a look at the unemployment rate and the general state of our economy in comparison to lets say.......any other country in the world!! and then say the BER wasn't worth it.

I mean you do realize that the crap you've swallowed is..... well, crap, don't you.

So it wasn't about revolutionising education ?

The education revolution was about spending our way out of recession (that we weren't actually in)

I had just assumed that an 'education revolution' was about revolutionising education delivery.

Maybe if the BER was around when I went to school I wouldn't have studied Keynes, Marx and Von Heyk, but I could have had my lunch outside, but in the shade.