Now he's been granted asylum by Ecuador how does he get out of the embassy/country?
dress up as woman and walk out the front door......?

**** off Julian, we're full?

Personally I think Assange is a bit of a rubbish wannabe spy. His intentions are noble, but his delivery is lacking and his ego is off the scale.

Best case scenario as far I'm concerned is he gets sent to Sweden, spends a period in jail for his offences and the US doesn't give a bugger about him.
The US has already got their pound of flesh from the source of the leak, Bradley Manning.

Maybe start sending out lots of (large) diplomatic bags from the embassy. See how many get searched by authorities? (I've heard it suggested that a diplomatic bag has certain 'rights' that may make it difficult to be legally searched).
Then send JA in one of the bags?

Either that or call in McGyver or Chuck Norris....

choco said...


dress up as woman and walk out the front door......?

Burka? [}:)]

Considering the amount of support the Australian government has given him I can see him taking up Ecuadorian citizenship and shortly afterwards being employed by the Ecuadorian foreign service as their diplomat. He will then be asked to report to Ecuador.

As Assange has committed no crimes in the U.K. nor Sweden he will have every right as a diplomat to be allowed to leave the embassy without being hindered by the police and will leave the U.K.

^^^^^

I am pretty sure that Britian has to 'approve' a diplomat. You can't just send anyone you want to another country to be your diplomat, the rights the embassy and employees has is by the grace of the receiving country. First they agree to you establishing an embassy, then to who your ambassadors and diplomats are.

What I find strange is why Britain has any interest in the issue and doesn't just want him gone as fast as possible to anywhere else. He has done nothing to Britain, is not a British citizen, has released nothing damaging and the only damage he is doing is being on British soil, using the British courts to air his dirty laundry.

If they found some Polish hardmen and had him kidnapped and sent him to France then the French would have all the issues and Britain could stay calm and carry on.


But any which way, his notion that people should seek refuge in central american countries that have poor human rights records, only semi-democratic governments, extensive histories of abuductions and outside influences - and not face a civil court in Sweden - one of the most democratic and socialist countries in the world seems to me to reinforce the opinion Assagne has more subversive motovations in his life than those he purports to despise.

Do you think he has a better chance evading the US authorities through a Swedish court, or through hiding under a leaf from the helicopter gunships in the jungles of Ecuador ? If the US really want him his best bet might be asylum in Pakistan, I hear there is a fortified compound close to some military headquarters that may be available, and is apparently very hard for the US to find (no internet connection though).

Carantoc said...

^^^^^
But any which way, his notion that people should seek refuge in central american countries that have poor human rights records, only semi-democratic governments, extensive histories of abuductions and outside influences - and not face a civil court in Sweden - one of the most democratic and socialist countries in the world seems to me to reinforce the opinion Assagne has more subversive motovations in his life than those he purports to despise.

Hasn't he already been to sweeden to face the charges and the outcome was he is innocent?

The open extradition agreement with the US only works on Swedish soil

choco said...

Now he's been granted asylum by Ecuador how does he get out of the embassy/country?

Up up and away?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulton_surface-to-air_recovery_system

Mobydisc said...

Yep,

if he is sent to Sweden then it won't be long before Assange ends up in the USA where the best he could hope for is a 10 year prison sentence in a federal prison.

Any extradition from Sweden to the United States would require the consent of both Sweden and the United Kingdom.
It would actually be easier for the US to extradite Assange from the UK.

evlPanda said...

^ Why would UK have to approve extradition from SWE?

it's part of the EU Framework. My understanding is that it's to stop a person being extradited via a 'chain'.

evlPanda said...
And if it's easier to extradite from UK why haven't they done so?

Maybe Sweden just want to arrest him for rape charges and there is no conspiracy.
Or maybe something else, you tell me.

My money's on Julian just not wanting to face rape charges.

JA is a goner. The speppos have sent the dogs out and have no intention of pulling back. He may as well buy a ticket to LA.

ironically, what Julian has done is hide the truth behind a smokescreen

What Julian is alledged to have done is to have had sex with two women against their consent in Sweden.

The women complained to the Swedish police, who investigated and asked the Swedish courts to issue an extradition warrant to Britian so they could question him.

No government of any country has, at this stage, instigated any judical or police action against Julian for leaking or publishing any documents.


What Julian has done is convinced the world that the world is out to get him.

Some ask why the Swedish police can't travel to Britian to question him to break the apparent deadlock. Perhaps any such questioning can't then be used in any Swedish court case ??

Perhaps if the Swedish poilice could travel then Julian himself could make a signed statement witnessed by the Ecuadorian ambassador regarding the allegations against him and his version of the circumstances surrounding them.

Perhaps if wikileaks released a witnessed statement from Julian to the Swedish authorities detailing the events of those nights and any supporting details then the principal of discovering the truth might be upheld a little better than yelling 'They want to kill me for telling the truth' from a balcony to a small, but one sided, crowd below whilst completely ignoring the immediate issue at hand.

Maybe.

Mobydisc said...

The women liked him as could be seen in video of conferences he was attending.

Somehow along the line the women met each other and started talking. Thats how the complaints started.

Happens to me all the time

Carantoc said...
What Julian is alledged to have done is to have had sex with two women against their consent in Sweden.

Apparently Julian has invitation from that women to spent a night at her bed. Full consent for first round of the sex, then suddenly surprise at second attempt the same night.
If that constitute a rape that possibly 99,9% of the world population should walk to the jail straight now.
The written consent before each sex should be sufficient, to protect from rape accusation , then 2 independent witness signature that written consent wasn't obtain by force or any pressure, then video evidence could be useful at the court every time.
Such case as precedence could provide totalitarian weapon against probable every single creature on this planet.

On another hand conspirators could be more creative in gathering evidence - maybe some unpaid speeding tickets, outstanding rates or school tuition\, watching porn on PC should be enough to send Julian to prison till the end of his life without needs to employs female secret agent.
In year or two there will be another case now by the female agent against her employers (CIA ?) to force her into sex with victim ( Julian) under her employment contract.