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Greenroom
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7 Sep 2010 2:52pm
YAY!
da vecta
da vecta
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7 Sep 2010 5:33pm
Thanks, I like to get my news on the seebreeze forums.
getfunky
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7 Sep 2010 4:15pm
Phew!! That was like a mad non-secular Mr Hyde bullet dodged!

Hooray for Fanta Pants!!
Diver
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WA
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7 Sep 2010 4:30pm
Watch out for more of these... They have now been let out




Cassa
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7 Sep 2010 6:12pm




Time will tell, bad day for Aus
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
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7 Sep 2010 6:21pm
Cassa said...





Time will tell, bad day for Aus


Agreed. Now we're stuffed

I think blue flu-endorsing, "covered walkway to the portaloos or else we strike" can't work in over 34.5 degC types like Greenie will be stoked though


In all seriousness though - I think the fact that 3 or 4 independents decided the result is just disgraceful.
Even if the result was to my liking (ie coalition got in) I'd still think it is WRONG.
We should have gone back to the polls a week ago.
What has happened is completely contrary to democracy and I'd like to see a Constitutional lawyer expert type pull it apart and tell us if it is legal.
Bvllsh!tfarkin.

SandS
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7 Sep 2010 8:21pm
Greenroom said...

YAY!


One of em said ... no mandate.no mandate. That'll be interesting !!
we'll back at the voting booths soon I recon.
SomeOtherGuy
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7 Sep 2010 8:43pm
Mark _australia said...

Cassa said...



Time will tell, bad day for Aus


Agreed. Now we're stuffed



You lost so learn to live with it. In other words, harden up princess

Oh, and hooray for fanta pants!
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
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7 Sep 2010 6:54pm
No, we all lost as there was no majority and it was a deal done in private

as per my above post

getfunky
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7 Sep 2010 6:58pm
Say a LOT that ex National party dudes couldn't back the Libs i reckon. Ba ha ha ha - Krazy Katter went with Phony Tony (that will most likely help the ALP).

Probably should have gone back to the polls to get a decisive govt one way or another. Bet the Libs backers wouldn't be saying that if the monk had scrapped in tho.

Anyway you look at it - lets hope the circus on all sides can get on with it and actually SERVE US. That's their kn job after all, but you could be forgiven for thinking you had tuned into the X factor the way the idiots conduct themselves.


Action to considerably smarten up the running of parliment already. So far so good.

Fingers, toes and jatz crackers crossed for the future. That's all our future BTW.
Mister Dugong
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7 Sep 2010 6:59pm
Mark _australia said...

Cassa said...





Time will tell, bad day for Aus



1
I think blue flu-endorsing, "covered walkway to the portaloos or else we strike" can't work in over 34.5 degC types like Greenie will be stoked though


2
We should have gone back to the polls a week ago.

3
What has happened is completely contrary to democracy and I'd like to see a Constitutional lawyer expert type pull it apart and tell us if it is legal.
Bvllsh!tfarkin.




1
Im pretty sure its closer to 37 degrees and only applies to outdoor construction types... cant see the pen and paper pushing office workers bludging there way into that one.
But I wouldnt know as my working career started at the start of the liberal john howard government, where your only given a casual awa contract, so cop out employers dont givea crap about your lifes needs or career.

2
A return to polls ... Im still not sure, I woud have voted same..would you?

3
nope its cool with me if the goernment becomes productive....stuff that wasting time lawyer dribble

Also both sides are pretty close as far as polarity goes .ie they are both left!!!! So maybe if they pull their heads out ...some decent ideas might get a run...what can I say...given the opportunitys ive had... you got to be an opptimist to get by.

SomeOtherGuy
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7 Sep 2010 9:25pm
Yup, if it went back to the polls I'd vote the same way. So if anyone else wants a different result, they'd have to change their vote. Anyone volunteering???
Bigwavedave
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7 Sep 2010 9:44pm
SomeOtherGuy said...

Yup, if it went back to the polls I'd vote the same way. So if anyone else wants a different result, they'd have to change their vote. Anyone volunteering???


I think if there was a new election, the informal voters and the Green (and other minorities) voters would have a rethink.

This preferential system sucks. Labor got only 38% of primary votes... that is a minority government!

elmo
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7 Sep 2010 8:05pm
I'm not a labour voter, but am pleased to see we at least have the privilege of voting for our valiant leaders.

Myself I find the current scenario quite interesting and actually have hope (I'm an optimist) that something might actually happen in parliament proactively rather than simply following party lines or public opinion polls

Here's to hoping anyway
log man
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7 Sep 2010 10:12pm
What a relief, i could'nt stand a return to the middle management government of Bishop, Robb, Pyne ,Hockey ETC
FormulaNova
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7 Sep 2010 8:33pm
Bigwavedave said...

SomeOtherGuy said...

Yup, if it went back to the polls I'd vote the same way. So if anyone else wants
a different result, they'd have to change their vote. Anyone volunteering???


I think if there was a new election, the informal voters and the Green (and other
minorities) voters would have a rethink.

This preferential system sucks. Labor got only 38% of primary votes... that is a
minority government!



I agree about the idea that the informal voters and the people voting for the Greens
might rethink, but maybe not in the way you are thinking. I suspect that some usual
Labor voters tried to punish the Labor government by voting for the Greens, and
were probably a bit uneasy about the last couple of weeks.

It's not like the Greens hid their intended support of Labor, and who really thought
the Greens would have enough votes to form their own government. So who that
voted for the Greens really expected anything else?

I don't blame the independents for bargaining for all they can, and they seem to
have shown some restraint based on reality.

It is a good chance to get some focus on your own electorate, and would force
whichever government they went with to show a bit more openness. Now the
back-room dealers will have to consider that they can't just make unilateral
decisions, and hopefully the independents will exercise some control and restraint.

Either way, lets hope we can forget the last few weeks and get back to a
government doing something...

(what is the story with the width of this page?)
colinwill78
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7 Sep 2010 10:54pm
Anyone who seriously thinks there is any difference between the two parties is kidding themselves. Left wing and right wing have been clipped for years. middle of the road politics is what keeps majority voters "happy"

Mark _australia
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7 Sep 2010 10:00pm
wotzy77 said...

Mark _australia said...

Cassa said...





Time will tell, bad day for Aus



1
I think blue flu-endorsing, "covered walkway to the portaloos or else we strike" can't work in over 34.5 degC types like Greenie will be stoked though


2
We should have gone back to the polls a week ago.

3
What has happened is completely contrary to democracy and I'd like to see a Constitutional lawyer expert type pull it apart and tell us if it is legal.
Bvllsh!tfarkin.




1
Im pretty sure its closer to 37 degrees and only applies to outdoor construction types... cant see the pen and paper pushing office workers bludging there way into that one.
But I wouldnt know as my working career started at the start of the liberal john howard government, where your only given a casual awa contract, so cop out employers dont givea crap about your lifes needs or career.

2
A return to polls ... Im still not sure, I woud have voted same..would you?

3
nope its cool with me if the goernment becomes productive....stuff that wasting time lawyer dribble

Also both sides are pretty close as far as polarity goes .ie they are both left!!!! So maybe if they pull their heads out ...some decent ideas might get a run...what can I say...given the opportunitys ive had... you got to be an opptimist to get by.




It's OK wotzy, number 1 was a tongue in cheek free shot at Greenie for his posts in another thread

Number 2 - No I would not

Number 3 - Can't believe you are serious! IF what has just occurred was unconstitutional (ie- illegal) and completely against the ethos of the Westminster system, you would not care as long as it worked out OK and the Govt seemed to be working OK?
DUDE
DUDE
NSW
1132 posts
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8 Sep 2010 12:36am
Would there be any gay Kookaburra's in Bob Katters electorate or would they all just be having fun?
j murray
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SA
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8 Sep 2010 5:49am

Hey Dude, Blue wing kookas in Katterland, they don't finish their laugh,

so they must be blue .....no...not gay.

I voted green and am happy with the result , i wanted a government that will

do something for Australia, I think the result is the first step this country

has taken forward in 20 odd years. We may be starting to get real

representation for all people in Australia, which includes rural and remote

really happy
getfunky
getfunky
WA
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8 Sep 2010 10:15am
Spot on Muzza!

Let's be honest neither major party had much to offer and that shows in the cobbled together results.

As to Libs supporters crying foul. Suck it up we've had 12 of the last 15 yrs heading back to the 1950's (and in fairness an ALP doing fek all to offer any other choice in most of that time).

It is finally time for some progessive and inclusive policies with a fostering of social values that this country was once proud of that have been sadly lacking in recent decades.
japie
japie
NSW
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8 Sep 2010 2:43pm
colinwill78 said...

Anyone who seriously thinks there is any difference between the two parties is kidding themselves. Left wing and right wing have been clipped for years. middle of the road politics is what keeps majority voters "happy"




It is a two horse race, both nags owned by the same owner.
Mister Dugong
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368 posts
368 posts
8 Sep 2010 6:58pm
Mark _australia said...

wotzy77 said...

Mark _australia said...

Cassa said...





Time will tell, bad day for Aus



1
I think blue flu-endorsing, "covered walkway to the portaloos or else we strike" can't work in over 34.5 degC types like Greenie will be stoked though


2
We should have gone back to the polls a week ago.

3
What has happened is completely contrary to democracy and I'd like to see a Constitutional lawyer expert type pull it apart and tell us if it is legal.
Bvllsh!tfarkin.




1
Im pretty sure its closer to 37 degrees and only applies to outdoor construction types... cant see the pen and paper pushing office workers bludging there way into that one.
But I wouldnt know as my working career started at the start of the liberal john howard government, where your only given a casual awa contract, so cop out employers dont givea crap about your lifes needs or career.

2
A return to polls ... Im still not sure, I woud have voted same..would you?

3
nope its cool with me if the goernment becomes productive....stuff that wasting time lawyer dribble

Also both sides are pretty close as far as polarity goes .ie they are both left!!!! So maybe if they pull their heads out ...some decent ideas might get a run...what can I say...given the opportunitys ive had... you got to be an opptimist to get by.




It's OK wotzy, number 1 was a tongue in cheek free shot at Greenie for his posts in another thread

Number 2 - No I would not

Number 3 - Can't believe you are serious! IF what has just occurred was unconstitutional (ie- illegal) and completely against the ethos of the Westminster system, you would not care as long as it worked out OK and the Govt seemed to be working OK?



number 3
I dont believe that anything illegal has occurred, not through any expert knowledge of the system, just because there is so much ridding on it for some, Im sure anything amiss would have been spotted. Therefore my don't care attitude is soley directed at avoiding the waste of time investigating something that I would imagine has already been investigated quite comprohensively. Sorry cant spell that last one.

In addition, The preference system, in my rudimentry definition, allows the person you have voted for to choose a lesser evil (other than them selves) on your behalf, that is unless you've selected the lesser evils for yourself.....to get as close to the policy you want as possible.

Despite primary votes the lesser evil chosen to be is....Labour

next time i would like to see a seabreeze election form guide listing all partys and policys and even persons on the big white bit of paper. This way I would know a little better how to cast my preferences without having to get overly educated.. which as my spelling shows ...doesnt come easily!!!

Maybe as japie seems to hint above...petermac might know something about the result!!!lol
cwamit
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9 Sep 2010 7:29pm
getfunky said...

Spot on Muzza!

Let's be honest neither major party had much to offer and that shows in the cobbled together results.

As to Libs supporters crying foul. Suck it up we've had 12 of the last 15 yrs heading back to the 1950's (and in fairness an ALP doing fek all to offer any other choice in most of that time).

It is finally time for some progessive and inclusive policies with a fostering of social values that this country was once proud of that have been sadly lacking in recent decades.


You do realize that its the country conservative independents that are the ones that have brought this ideology into political play "inclusive"...

do you also realize its the leverage on the labor party as to why they where selected over the liberals... they (the independents ) stated they chose the party most likely to loose an early election if they went back to the polls, that tells me their is more leverage for the independants... remember all pollies are poll driven .. hence why Kevin the dud rudd got the boot and why Julia will bend over back wards for the independants... if your looking for political utopia .. it isnt here!

personally I'm pleased labor got to power even if i lean toward libs.. not because i think tony is a mad monk , i think he performed out standing in this election and as a prime minister would grow into this role. i was not keen on him at the start but like the dude more now than before as i was negatively influenced due to the media preconceptions ......im happy because of the leverage the country conservatives have over labour... long term i think labors in for a whole lot of pain in executing policy even with greens in the senate.

i always liked the idea of the broadband network even if i dislike the method of delivery being government money backed, i just see the costs being blown out big time with labors previous form... they just cant handle budgets and money like the
libs.. and its a percentage of my money through taxation that i have concerns of being wasted by crap management.

SandS
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9 Sep 2010 10:19pm
"Julia Gillard is the woman" who bought her way into government with 10 billion dollars of your money , to be spent in the localitys picked out by four independents.

this is not democracy , its bullsht!!
getfunky
getfunky
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10 Sep 2010 11:07am
Thank fk Wilson 'Redknek bar' Tuckey has finally been ousted. A true redkneck, he makes Katter seem like an always well considered, forward thinking friend to people of all persuasions. Katter's not so bad - he just needs a looser hat.

For those that just can't quite suck up the results, my money is we'll be back at the polls in 18mths max anyway. The ALP will be blamed for the fiasco (not both parties for giving as fk all choice in the first place)
and then we can just settle in for sweeping changes like a priest in every classroom, greater indocrination from a non-secular background and great inovations like that.

Please - if there actually is a God (or Dog ) smite your false profit the mad monk and give us a not-so-freakin-scary choice like Turnbull next time.


EDIT:

On to more serious matters (not Katters) WTF is the issue with the width of this thread?? I couldn't even make sense of Crammit's response coz i thought there may have been some b00bs waiting as i scrolled accross... what were we talking about??
SomeOtherGuy
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10 Sep 2010 2:02pm
^^^^
I think that'd be cassa's fault. That long string of red faces without a break broke the forum.
waxman
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10 Sep 2010 1:32pm
At least with Gilard in we will get the promise of faster internet, that she doesn't have the money to provide. But she will deliver, more tax for everyone, higher prices at the shops for your groceries, higher price of fuel.

But at least we will get our internet in about 10years, not that we will be allowed to use it with her censored internet. She will probably ban SB if they dont follow her dictatorship.

I like her daughter, she has just signed up a deal with a mens mag to get her gear off. How does our lovely PM think that she should get respect when even her family don't respect her.lol

The country is doomed with that ranger in charge, I cant see this government working and it will be back to the polls.


Did anyone get there computers for there kid's last time Labor was voter in??????
At least the losers that voted for labor again this time are used to disappointment.
Samb0
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12 Sep 2010 8:20pm


THE WINNER!






Carantoc
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WA
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13 Sep 2010 9:39am
I think first she has to demonstrate she is 'a' woman before becoming 'the' woman

(in the sense of a compassionate and benevolent human being, not a crazy power hungry despot)

Nah - sod it, in the sense of she is a welsh 'ranga so how for do the anotomical anomolies go ?
log man
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13 Sep 2010 4:27pm
waxman said...

At least with Gilard in we will get the promise of faster internet, that she doesn't have the money to provide. But she will deliver, more tax for everyone, higher prices at the shops for your groceries, higher price of fuel.

But at least we will get our internet in about 10years, not that we will be allowed to use it with her censored internet. She will probably ban SB if they dont follow her dictatorship.

I like her daughter, she has just signed up a deal with a mens mag to get her gear off. How does our lovely PM think that she should get respect when even her family don't respect her.lol

The country is doomed with that ranger in charge, I cant see this government working and it will be back to the polls.


Did anyone get there computers for there kid's last time Labor was voter in??????
At least the losers that voted for labor again this time are used to disappointment.


Yeah! right on ! And she said she'd end the Second world war but everybody knows that will never happen !!
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