The "jays" and some of its listeners are like a party that you just can't quite get into. Always seems to have an undercurrent of unspoken coolness that only a select few understand.

Each to their own, but apart from Roy and HG I could never get into JJJ.

ok, flame suit on......

this whole pretence that some of us are too old and out of touch with "youth" music is a load of bollocks,

when was the last time you guys actually got out amongst it in your local band scene and heard the bundles of talent out there just doing their thing and not getting air play.

i'd say it's more a case that the majortiy of JJJ listeners don't have a clue what real music is as their only exposure is the dribble they get fed from day to day on high rotation by the programers. the whole thing has become an imploding circle or commercial music feeding its ever growning commercial fan base. and the hottest 100 is fairly strong evidence.

why are bands they're playing writing music? to be successfull or to make art and make a statement. not the latter i reckon.

if the J's were really supporting up and coming artists then why aren't they playing metal or jazz or punk or electronica in general rotation, they play middle of the road fashion orientated tunes. they don't play the truely independant artists making music, if they did most of the listener to be honest would switch off.

i think if jjj are playing bands 6 months before they get commercial airplay then we have a serious problem on our hands.

oh, and 4zzz in brisbane did the hottest 100 first in australia, and they aren't afraid to play true alternative music, and their journo ask serious question that might not be popular.

rant over.

yeah, i don't bother with bdo, to many wankers at the gold coast events.

you're missing the point lotofwind,

jjj has spread the net too far by playing commercial music they have attracted commercial fans who are now voting for commercial music and the whole concept is spiralling along.

you can argue all you want that tripple j supports unearthed etc but again, with a main listening audience of commercially fed sheep there is no way in hell that non commercial bands are going to get through. you either sound a certain way or you fail.

you're joking, lots of local bands play music becuase it;s a release, it's fun, or they got something to say. not because they want success..... that 's the whole bloody point. do you think nirvana wrote songs to be successfull.

art is not about success it's about passion and substance. if you approach art to be successfull you are not an artist you are an employee.

loud, i like loud!

your manipulating my words to try and prove your point. have fun with that.

no, you do get my point, but you are unwilling to accept it as you like an argument. it was clearly stated above but here it is again very clearly for you.

britney spears writes or has written songs whose sole purpose is to make money. it's not art it's employment.

they may as well...lol...

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Too right it's all good pong...

Oooooooo Gestie luvs Britney...

THE WORST SONG JJJ HAS EVERY PLAYED:



PURE VOMIT

Now... Leave the fooies alone... I am sure there is a pugsie on youtube about that, like (edit: sorry, the vid below may contain some dodgy language):

hey i'll be pong!

lotofwind, you are confusing getting paid for what you do and writing music to get paid. there is no difference between britney spears and the local band who's trying to write a hit single only that britney is better at it.

there are plenty of bands and artists out there that don't care for commercial success, sure they want to be able to buy food. plenty of other bands throughout history have turned down major record deals also. some very big names.

it's a bit steep to say that nirvana did what they did to be rich. kurt often spoke out AGAINST THE CORPORATE MODEL AND HIS DISSAPPOINTMENT OF WHAT THE BAND HAD BECOME. but that's a whole other conversation. geffen turned out to be the wolf in sheeps clothing. you forget (or aren't aware) of the stink that occurred after albini recorded and mixed in utero.

it's the age old debate, does success mean that i sold out. well i'd suggest the answer depends on what motivated the band and how they got there.

personally i'm not a big fan of the foo fighters. don't own a single record. doesn't mean i don't think each member of the band is highly talented and have much respect for them. so maybe it's the production their big label uses to make them more palatable to the masses......

ping,

hey, i don't love britney but i can listen to a bit of avril,

I don't mind the music... If only they stopped talking so much ****, but maybe I'm just getting too old??

saltiest1 said...

ive just discovered this new technology called "compact discs". they even work in cars!

Wait till you discover MP3.
A litte bit of plastic the size of a match box that can hold MILLIONS of songs.
Its gotta be witch craft I tell ya.

I've liked Jarvis's stuff since day dot.
As a bloke he's a wanker tho.

log man - well said.

I know its each generation's role to get grumpy and think that there is no real music any more..

- i really struggle to see any musical movements that have the energy and excitement that a young
U2, The cure, The Police, Nirvana (Kurt was able to get new tyres for his VW beetle with his proceeds from Nevermid - and that was about it). Pixies, Grand master Flash , Michael Jackson, INXs (early days),Stone Roses, Public enemy, Talking Heads, Sonic Youth - and thats all just in around 10 yearsWhat has 2000 - 2010 given us?

Remember that for every r and B clone tune out there that you hear on the radio a real artist has been displaced, disenfrachised and discouraged. Which is why i get so angry when i hear the latest Usher etc etc pissweak tune on the radio.


There are still some great artists out there - but Music on mainstream radio is Mcmusic - its been packaged and managed and the last concern is whether it sounds any good or not.

There are still awesome artists out there but they have become criminally hard to find underneath the pile of rubbish that is served up on the radio (this includes triple J - but to a lower extent than commercial radio)

poor relative said...

I've liked Jarvis's stuff since day dot.
As a bloke he's a wanker tho.

+1


As for BDO - once upon a time JJJ had their finger on the pulse and managed to sign up awesome bands for BDO before they really cracked it on the top shelf.

Whose headlining these days?

Rammstein, Tool, Stooges, Primal scream etc?

I'm not sayin theye aren't (or weren't?) good bands, but in most cases they have played BDO 3 times before, and/or haven't released a decent toon in a decade. I mean give me a fkn big break!?

$$$ rule and BDO is flogging a clapped out dead corporate horse.

Funnily enough JJJ won't play any classic alternative toons on air and resemble a top 40 hits (hits hits hits) station but they will sign up clapped out bands to fill the big name slots coz 'happening' bands are too exxy/difficult to book.