ikw777 said...
The view when you fly out.

The view when you drive out...in the rear view mirror

Gigs:

All the international tours play a show in Sydney.

Plus you get side shows from festival acts.

Mobydisc said...
Botany Bay is a beautiful stretch of flat water for watersports of all kinds.

The northern end is, unfortunately, the ugliest place I've ever sailed I hate to tell you (although the water quality is better than Wellington Point). My very first impressions were auspicious; a pod of dolphins before I'd even unpacked the car. But it's been all downhill from that moment. There's some crazy foot path with planks you have to balance on to get to the beach. It's sooooo noisy there, being literally on the side of an international airport, so it smells like aviation fuel all day, and there's mercury in the water, and you have to drive through kilometers of traffic underground to get there, which takes me anywhere between 20 - 60 minutes. And it's inexplicably gusty.

Seriously, it's not beautiful. I can't speak for the southern end. Looking forward to a downwinder.

The beaches here are great.

It's too cold most of the year. Parking is next to impossible/accepts only credit cards/expensive. Public transport is worse. It's so crowded your towels touch other peoples' towels.

Sydney is surrounded by bushland and rugged terrain.

And Canberra is on the coast.

There's great coke there.. apparently.

Well at least that's what the typical Sydney coke-head BS artists say.

myusernam said...
i always feel sorry for the new australiand that migrate there, live out 3/4 of the way to canberra and have to commute into the city everyday to drive a bus or drive a cab or whatever. Life would be soo much nicer on a low income in a regional are, but it's like a magnet. they all have to live in sydney. If I was a low income earner Id rather be a low income earner in a pretty little coastal town or even a regional city, rather than an expensive capital city

+1 I've met many migrants who regretted that they weren't sent to regional areas. The common line that I hear is, "We had no money so we scrimped and saved, had kids and when they grew up we took a holiday and found out how much better the rest of Oz is. Now I'm stuck in Sydney cause my kids are having kids and they like the big money in Sydney."

Sad really.

myusernam said...
i always feel sorry for the new australiand that migrate there, live out 3/4 of the way to canberra and have to commute into the city everyday to drive a bus or drive a cab or whatever. Life would be soo much nicer on a low income in a regional are, but it's like a magnet. they all have to live in sydney. If I was a low income earner Id rather be a low income earner in a pretty little coastal town or even a regional city, rather than an expensive capital city

I was talking to an Indian taxi driver working in Townsville. I think he initially moved there, moved to Melbourne to study, and then moved back. Once you get used to the lifestyle, it would be a better place to live I think. At least for the traffic.

If there was a place to be a taxi driver, I think these places would be the go.

Kebabs ? Kebabs? kebabs?

The reality is most of us spend most of our time at work or at home.

Going to work in Syndey:
-Bus, they're slow, late, don't follow the schedule. When you get on you're going to be standing next to some one who thinks BO smells good, a Chinese woman/man that has a cough that hasn't gone away in years, or some body like you who hates everybody. There's no AC, you're going to start sweating and everybody's going to be sloshing around like water in a tank as the bus stops a thousand times on it's interminable odyssey in to the chity.

-Train, better than buses when they run, but again BO, lepers, etc...

-Car, you'll be in a traffic jam the moment you get on the road. AC, Podcasts, happy times... until you realise there's NO WHERE to park without getting a $99 fine in less than 3 minutes!

-Motorcycle, farked if it's raining and it rains here more than London. Again no where to park and nobody knows what the rules are.

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So before you even arrive at work you're farked off.

Work is probably the same as everywhere else in Aus (except everyone is farked off), and usually pays enough for you to afford your $500-$900 a week rent, but not enough to rationally enter in to a life time $1,000,000 mortgage.

Getting back home you have to go through the same but usually worse as there's more than likely been some accident/break down and they've closed the bridge or tunnel, in both directions just for a laugh or a news story. The trains have stopped, the bus queues reach round the block and every bus is full.

Home... a carbon monoxide blanketed over price gyprock castle, hmmm, unit.

The next day you're feeling a little off cos you're fighting off the Chinese whopping cough... and it goes on.

Weekends... you guessed it, traffic as far as the eye can see, this time people queuing up to go shopping @ Westfields. So you join the traffic jam, then drive around and around the farking car park so you can go stock up on sugar coated sh!t at Woolies. By the time you've waded through the crowds and bought your crap it's 16:00hrs and you've got 2hrs to get through Sydney to the beach.

The pressure's on and as soon as there's 100m of clear space you put it in 3rd and just edge over 60kmh, when some farking do gooder cop hiding in the bushes thinks he's saved your life and some imaginary woman pushing her pram in to a grid locked road by fining you a couple hundred $$$.

Get to the beach and start circling to find a parking space.

The water's dirty and polluted, the wind dies, you get fined for parking on the grass, farking grid lock getting back bcos of some gay parade, some whack job islander is screaming at you and you're now scared for your life... they kill people for real and the farker screaming at me with eyes popping out of his head meant business and he was HUGE, well his head was.

FlySurfer said...


Seriously I can't think of anything good Sydney has that another city doesn't offer...

If you don't like it you can always leave, we are full

GalahOnTheBay said...

FlySurfer said...


Seriously I can't think of anything good Sydney has that another city doesn't offer...

If you don't like it you can always leave, we are full

still say manly is picturesque

GalahOnTheBay said...

If you don't like it you can always leave, we are full

Quality response, bravo sir, bravo!

GalahOnTheBay said...
Ah so you live in the guts of the city - why not live closer to the beaches?

Simplez, I'm not fortunate enough to be able to afford to live where I want.
Kirribilli would be nice.

I lived in Mosman for a while, and it took me 1hr to travel 4km...

^^^ +1

Nowhere has everything, otherwise it would be even more expensive that the expensive places we have in Sydney today.

I do like the north side, except for the worse that usual commute times and lack of wind.

FlySurfer said...

Quality response, bravo sir, bravo!

You do know I was joking right?

I used to marvel about how cheap houses were in Melbourne compared to Sydney. Then one day I went there and saw how the flat land rolls on as far as the eye can see. I then understood why houses/land is so cheap there. There is so much land available for development.

Nowdays I don't understand why houses in Melbourne are so expensive.

Mobydisc said...
I used to marvel about how cheap houses were in Melbourne compared to Sydney. Then one day I went there and saw how the flat land rolls on as far as the eye can see. I then understood why houses/land is so cheap there. There is so much land available for development.

Nowdays I don't understand why houses in Melbourne are so expensive.

I personally think that Melbournians got carried away with a perceived shortage of housing, and the prices went higher then they should have. Here in Sydney, we are stuck with a trickle of land, when maybe there should be some proper planning done.

I agree with you. I looked around there in Melbourne and saw a few sprawling new developments and the potential for more, and wondered why the prices were what they were. I have read of people now realising that there are plenty of newly built apartments and houses available, so maybe they will become more affordable?

FormulaNova said...
I have read of people now realising that there are plenty of newly built apartments and houses available, so maybe they will become more affordable?

I'm pretty sure that's happening in the Docklands (adjacent to the cbd). Why buy a three year old apartment there when a newer one is going up next door. The big problem there, is that they (Kennett Govt) let the developers build the area without planning for schools, parks etc. The place is sterile.

On the other hand on 40km South East of Melbourne, Narree Warren South recorded the highest increase in value - almost 20% increase in growth between September and December last year. reiv.com.au/property-data/residential-sales/high-performers