Here we go again..........

Stop them

fingerbone said...

What would you do,if you could ?
People complain about the gov not doing enough to stop the boat people.

But.........

Boat people aren't illegal Immigrants. They are refugges, Australia is a signatory to the UN policy on refugees. It is not illegal to arrive on Australia's shore by boat or any other means seeking asylum.

Illegal immigrants are people that arrive and over stay and are not refugees, so please make it clear who you wish to attack?

SP said...
But.........

Boat people aren't illegal Immigrants. They are refugges, Australia is a signatory to the UN policy on refugees. It is not illegal to arrive on Australia's shore by boat or any other means seeking asylum.

My understanding is that boat people aren't refugees, they are asylum seekers that may or may not get the status of refugees.

In fact far from all can prove that they fall in the category of "a well founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion". One suspects most are simply looking for better economical prospects.

Am I wrong on the def ?

Simondo said...

Here we go!

OK, hypothetically.... the refugee... fleeing to a new nation...

A favorite buddy of mine (Ash - born in Iran, of distinct middle eastern appearance, a great bloke, and a cool but thick accent) lives in Potts Point Sydney, and his cousin is 19 years old, and living in Mashhad, Iran, near the Afghanistan border.

She is hot, and I've seen photos (I'm talking about the 19 year old cousin). Her parents arranged her marriage when she was 14, and she married the ugliest bastard in town, who drinks home brew whiskey, swears like a trooper, has missing teeth, and gets angry on the turps, and gives her a punch-up about twice per month. The relationship is fully strained, she refuses to have his children, and hates sleeping with him. He forces himself on her, and she pretty much just has to oblige. She gets back yard abortions every now and then... She wants out.

She likes another boy in the town, and he likes her. But she knows she must not do anything about it, because she will bring shame on her family, and she will be at great risk of being killed, if they every found out.

She wants a better life, and wants to leave Iran... She's lucky that her cousin in Sydney has excess coin, and he is arranging for her to get out. She's lucky she doesn't need to catch "the boat".

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Original question... what would I do?... Don't know. Just imagine how farked up their individual situations must be, for them to throw their life savings into the dodgiest boat ride that they will ever go on!...

What if she was ugly? story sounds far fetched Iran is quite westernised

SP said...

Here we go again..........

Its helicat time!!

chrispychru said...

****ing wog ****s ****ing..... dont trust us

Do you do your own censoring? < that is possibly a spelling mistake but you know what I mean

I don't mind who comes into the country as long tax dollars aren't used to support them. Get a job, pay your taxes and buy things like everyone else.

i cant really hear anyone complaining over tong abbott, all he does is blame the ginja ninja for this and that and never even says what he'd do, (his flueroscent safety vests and massive ears are very distracting)

I'd send them back straight away if they had no paperwork, like the Americans do with the mexicans,
we could build a giant catapult on christmas island, would be the cheapest most cost effective way, once they hit indonesian air space their no longer our problem, the catcopter may also work, would just have to figure something out

Jarryd

So every seabreazer red thumbs poor old fingerbone but ya still have to comment.
If a post gets more than 200 reads or 10 reply's it should be instantly be maxed to the greener side of things. Sheep!!!

Cassa said...

Dunno , but if MY COUNTRY (thats just how I feel) was as f--ked up as what they are saying theirs is , I would fight like the last man alive to try to rectify the situation. If that meant getting into politics, standing up for my rights or going on a rampage to KILL people like the Taliban (if that sort of situation arose) to free MY family from the ****e that is happening I would , and know most around me would do the same!!!!![}:)]


NOT RUN LIKE A SCARED RABBIT , to find an EASY escape

i'm torn between pity, revulsion and scorn reading this.

My mum was a 10 quid POM immigrant in the 60s.

Lucky for her she was snow white and Oz (openly) had a welcome all UK honkies policy.

Mum's large, whinging, (sometimes) racist family and were put on a luxury liner and brought here, at great expense, to help boost whities in a white bread country.

Had my mum come from a background where they worshipped some other religious nuttery (just my 2c on that stuff), had they all been swarthy skinned, been sporting beards and/or had hard to pronounce names.. well I guess they would have had a very different experience of how welcoming Oz can be.. depending on how you look/sound/worship.

I am still stunned at how backward and selfish we are in this country today when it comes to a trickle of largely genuine asylum seekers that arrive. Especially so when you look at how we opened the door to the Vietnamese after meddling in their internal conflict in the name of 'democracy'.

Just how is it we have become so ignorant, selfish and xenophobic +30 yrs later?

Maybe people read beyond the headlines then? Maybe we didn't think we were a nation that sh@t chocolate then? Maybe we were a kinder, more accepting nation then?

Not sure, but people that continue to use (deliberately) misleading and enflaming language, with obvious racist undertones, should be pushed back out to sea on the boats that arrive IMO.

We don't need those that won't accept others in this country so take your "We're full - fk orf" stickers and your racist mates and fk orf yaself.[}:)]

This country would be better without the likes of people who feed dumb-arsed redknecks like Alan Jones, Cassa and fingerbone if you ask me.

We are lucky enough to live in a democracy and no-one is goin broke by pandering to the ignorant and selfish that's for sure Alan Jones and co.

Just my 2.5c tho.

Mark _australia said...

stamp said...

Cassa said...

Dunno , but if MY COUNTRY (thats just how I feel) was as f--ked up as what they are saying theirs is , I would fight like the last man alive to try to rectify the situation. If that meant getting into politics, standing up for my rights or going on a rampage to KILL people like the Taliban (if that sort of situation arose) to free MY family from the ****e that is happening I would , and know most around me would do the same!!!!![}:)]


NOT RUN LIKE A SCARED RABBIT , to find an EASY escape

i'm torn between pity, revulsion and scorn reading this.

Stamp, does that translate to "if we were invaded tomorrow I'd run away rather than fight" ???? Let me get this right - you are revulsed by one who would stand up and fight? Mandela must be right up on your sh!tlist huh? I guess all those who spoke out about black slavery in the USA some 50yrs ago are to be scorned?


IMHO, pity, scorn and revulsion are not the typical traits of anyone who made this country what you enjoy today.

Did you read my example about how the Viet men stayed to fight? Yet this current crop seem to do the opposite...... do a runner and leave the frail behind.

Just wondering....

don't put words in my mouth mark, of course it doesn't translate to that. but you know absolutely **** all about these people or their situation but are quite happy to brand them cowards.
what makes me sick is people like cassa who form opinions without thinking. you just imagine up a war zone and put yourself in it dressed up in fatigues and wielding an ak47. problem solved, time to crack a beer. how easy was that? why haven't they done it your way for the last thousand or so years? of course- they're cowards....
many of these asylum seeker are seeking asylum because they have stood up and fought for their rights and their families or got into the wrong side of politics.

getfunky said...
Cassa, anyone who stands there, in this country, criticising another human being for investing their life savings in a desperate and dangerous escape from one of the most dangerous areas on earth, or for leaving their country of birth when that country's leaders persecute/rape/kill them.. well they are talking themselves up and peforming bum ventriliquism I reckon.

Get ya hand off it fellas. If your family was persecuted, your life and freedoms dominated in every respect, or your daughter in danger of being raped - you'd most likely be off like shot.

But, but... I just happened to fall out of a **** here a few decades back. I didn't want to be Australian, it just turned out that way. I didn't risk my families life so that they could be Australian, they just fell out of a **** and it was so. I didn't spend all my savings, I didn't leave my life behind, I didn't spend years in a detention centre.

So what right do they have to call themselves Australian? They didn't fall out of a **** like I did.

P.S. Yes, there are some 'economic refugees'. It is true. However let's not ignore how small a percentage that is, and that there are plenty of dole bludging Australians already here, true skippys, that are now 3rd or more generation bludgers. Call me crazy but the effort involved for a refugee just to get here seems an indication of a very brave, hard worker.

MarkAustralia said...



These threads make me smile - the pro side never answer the simple questions about them passing thru safe countries to get here

Just a quick look on google seems to suggest that Sri Lanka, Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, thailand, Burma and Indonesia are not signatoires to UNHCR conventions/protocals on refugees. And therefore have no legal obligation to take them.