Here's an idea - kinda left-field I know and I am sure a bit controversal, but :

How about the Government, maybe HAVE A POLICY, any policy that is other than 'it is our policy to not upset Bob Brown'

Would not work even if you had the Global Political will to do it because to run it would involve government. If we can't get pink batts right how the hell could they achieve anything so complicated.

There is a permanent fix to the refugee problem but it is the proverbial Jumbo in the room. Virtually all refugees are people trying to leave third world countries where western commercial interests have supported corrupt governments. In most cases they have actually installed corrupt dictators. The list is so long it is downright embarrasing and yet we spend so much time on this forum venting about the symptoms of this disease without ever thinking about addressing the cause.

I watched a great piece of investigative journalism on SBS a while back. It was about the use of slave labour by the Mugabe government, policed by his military, in mining a recently discovered diamond mine. When they get wore out they simply shoot them and get some more.

Now do you hear any of those lilly livered sell out bastards in Canberra making a noise about this and all of Bobs other atrocities? Of course you don't!

Why not? Well it is a little inconvenient when you have a look at Australian mining interests in Zimbabwe, so we keep hush.

And then we wonder why there are people leaving Zimbabwe and making for our shores.

Look to the cause to find a solution.

You can bet your bottom dollar that there is going to be a huge influx of Libyans soon, those who can piece together the wherewithal to get away now that their country has been made unliveable by Nato.

But these workers by law must be paid the "award wage" for that industry, + superannuation, have the correct OH&S conditions, meal breaks, and time off, they must hold the "correct" competency and trade qualifications for insurance and legal liabilities for the companies engaging them....etc,etc,etc.

Its the industrial rules and regulation that have killed this country... but mind you without them many companies would be killing workers.

Immigration is being used as means to mongrelize the population.

Breed out [historical] resistance in other words to tptb.

Look at the countries where this immigration is pushed.

Future generations,majority going to be mongrel.

petermac33 said...

Immigration is being used as means to mongrelize the population.

Breed out [historical] resistance in other words to tptb.

Look at the countries where this immigration is pushed.

Future generations,majority going to be mongrel.

First dumb ass bigotry and now White supremacism. Peter how can you see the keyboard with your white hood on?

Because i'm against any immigration into Britain or Australia,fail to see how this makes me a bigot,especially as my best friend is from India.

Not ignorant,just see an alterior motive in gov't immigration policy.

I'd rather focus on enculturing them to the Aussie ways. To be honest, once these guys step on our shores, they're just like you and me nothing more or less. My annoyance is the amount of them whom continue to follow their own cultures and not embrace ours. There is a balance that must be struck between respecting where you came from and embracing where you are. Is it really that difficult to speak english? Or what about being narrow minded and thinking your way of life or traditions are right compared to others?

Aussies are about giving each other a go and and embracing eachother and having a good time IMO.

To those who might now consider me a racist or discriminating, I hope some background information should let you decide. My parents are immigrants. We were lucky to come here and they have just as much embraced the aussie way of life as they have tried to hold onto their own tradition There have been countless times I have been given the 'You're *ethnic background*, we don't belong in the water (or play footy or etc etc etc)'. My reply has always been 'No, I'm not *ethnic background*, I'm an Aussie'. Hasn't held me in great stead but this is who I am. The sooner we focus on this, the sooner we stop situations such as race riots years ago on the Queensland beaches or religions wanting to have their separate judicial system compared to our justice system.

You come here for a better living, better money and food? Then embrace our culture. That should be the focus. Not on how to get rid of these people.

Quick someone hand me my ten foot pole.....

the fact that people on all sides of this debate seem unable to separate immigration and race issues mean we will never have meaningfull population debate.
we are all people we are all equal and we are all over the bl**dy place

newguy said...

I'd rather focus on enculturing them to the Aussie ways...

That was a nice post, newguy, considering you've lived the situation. That topic has gotta be close to the bone for you.

Having said that, the onus should be on the newcomers, not the society that welcomes them.
If they don't wanna, it won't happen. That's why many stick out both visually or culturally (not only language) 10 years later - they just won't do it, it wasn't the intention. Their kids may, not them.

Don't forget many immigrants are 'pushes', not 'pulls'. They didn't come here to embrace Australian values from a happy place. They came here from internal pressure, it's a forced move (economic, political, religious). Anyways for many Australia happens to be the place that took them in from 5 countries they applied for. Coulda been England or Canada or Denmark, but it happened to be here.

SandS said...

Loggy , I have have no resentment , it would not be a punishment , but a six year apprenticeship , not slavery as you suggest.
At this point we have no plan to do anything ,Other than try and find the body's in the sea.

So the only way we can stop people drowning in bad boats is to implement a forced labour scheme... You said," We will feed you, and not kill you". That sounds like a forced labour camp to me. I spose to stop these people from drowning at sea we could send that ship, as you suggested to a port ,as you suggested pick them up, bring them to Australia, process them, deport the ones who are not desireable and keep the rest. There then, that would stop the drownings at sea that you seem sssoooooo concerned about. So why the labour camp , why the "you will work on this project" . Why the "we will not kill you" crap. Why the need to turn us into concentration camp guards. Why the attitude to these people. My guess is fear of people coming to Australia by boat, Fear of Asians, Fear of Brown people, Fear of Muslims, Fear of being invaded. Fear. **** fear!

Silence said...

EDIT: except for vegemite. Guys, that thing can't be edible, seriously...

I've gotta give you a thumbs down for that !! There is nothing wrong with salty flavoured yeast

....and Italy gave the world Grappa -- ten million scooters run on that concoction I would think.....

do gooders do no good. civil libertarians go fark yourselves and move to the countries where these people are coming from and work your magic over there. my family moved to Australia during ww2 and went through alot of hardship,yet they will leave this planet as proud Australians for the life they have been given newguy well said,glad your an aussie mate

Ados said...

So who is going to be the person to make sure that new arrivals 'adhere' or 'assimilate'
in our society. will there be a culture police? isn't that the reason a lot of asylum seekers leave their home?

isn't there in america an interview about general culture (like the reason of secession war, and stuff like that) before they grant them a green card?
maybe something like that

The question was: Ideas for revamped immigration policy.
My answer is deport Tony the mad monk Abbott![}:)]