Help needed - searching for 'dumpers' in Perth!

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missellie
missellie
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4 Oct 2011 7:02pm
Are you a Perth Metro Wave Expert??
I'm trying to shoot a film for a uni project and need to find (ASAP) large waves dumping right up high on the sand. I'm fairly limited to how far I can travel North or South of the city so if you have any idea where these waves might be happening, what conditions I should look for or even if you know who else I might ask, please respond and know you'll be making someone smile!!!
Mister Dugong
Mister Dugong
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4 Oct 2011 7:08pm
pretty much all of it........

except for the large bit.... you wont find that at all!!
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
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4 Oct 2011 8:24pm
are you the same one who wanted windsurfers at Safety Bay, or is there heaps of uni ppl needing our help?

anyway, big swell would help.
elmo
elmo
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4 Oct 2011 8:32pm
I know its not metro but Just north of Yallingup (rabbits I think) has an awesome shorey
missellie
missellie
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4 Oct 2011 8:54pm
Thank you one and all!!!

No I'm not the same student looking for windsurfers in Safety Bay and if I have to go as far as Yallingup I'll have to hope the car will get me there and back. The waves I'm looking for are un-surfable and the reason I want to film them is that you can 'ride' the air they expell - if you're a chick, or don't mind wearing a skirt and I don't think anyone has ever caught it on film - only know one person who has ever done it and they're prepared to try it for the film - you can hover and if the waves are powerful enough they will even lift you higher into the air - so it means a hell of alot if anyone can keep me updated especially if they see the wave conditions developing. so please keep me informed.

thanks ever so, ellie
GPA
GPA
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4 Oct 2011 9:06pm
Not sure what to make of this...

Anyways... third car park Trigg Beach on a 3+ meter swell (> 1.2m as reported at Cottesloe). Or better still, north Scarborough - about 300-400m north of the Ampitheatre.

Not sure that they will break close enough to shore for what you are after - if I am understanding it...

Northbeach - but beware the rocks on the shoreline... even Mullaloo beach on a larger swell - just north of the surfclub.

Perth is full of Dumpers... just maybe not as big as you might be looking for.

Oh - and for the best chance of Dumpers look at low tide (check the nightly weather forecast at the end of the 6:00pm news).
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
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4 Oct 2011 9:19pm
I could give you a lift down south on the weekend?



GalahOnTheBay
GalahOnTheBay
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5 Oct 2011 12:23am
It's not in Perth, but maybe this is what you are after:

from www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Stand-Up-Paddle/SUP/And-the-best-shorebreak-for-BOP-training-is





Haircut
Haircut
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5 Oct 2011 12:20am
WTF!!
subasurf
subasurf
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4 Oct 2011 10:27pm
Depending on the nature of the shot and angle requirements, you may just need to hit up a stock library :P
Don't expect large dumping waves around Perth for a while. Dumping...yeah...large...no

GreenPat
GreenPat
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5 Oct 2011 12:29am
Haircut said...

WTF!!


Lots of WTF in this thread.
Carantoc
Carantoc
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4 Oct 2011 10:34pm
missellie said...



.... is that you can 'ride' the air they expell - if you're a chick, or don't mind wearing a skirt and I don't think anyone has ever caught it on film - only know one person who has ever done it and they're prepared to try it for the film - you can hover and if the waves are powerful enough they will even lift you higher into the air - so it means a hell of alot if anyone can keep me updated especially if they see the wave conditions developing. so please keep me informed.

thanks ever so, ellie


Another stoodent spending my hard earned tax dollars on drink and drugs

Listen luv - you cannot levitate above the ocean - no matter what your ****ed out, stoned out mates tell ya.

I know Jesus did, but that was different

If you really want to leviate you need quantum entanglement, but I assure you it is a big mistake coming here to discuss that.
Toots
Toots
WA
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4 Oct 2011 10:59pm
GalahOnTheBay said...

It's not in Perth, but maybe this is what you are after:

from www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Stand-Up-Paddle/SUP/And-the-best-shorebreak-for-BOP-training-is








I dont want to let on how self destructiuve I can be but that shorey honestly makes me hard.

For the OP if you can get to the east coast Stocko will do it for you on high tide on a good ground swell and coz its a 25Km + beach most of the time you get 10-15Km+ shorey closeout Barrels, ie, if you stick your ultra wide angle or even 300mm+ Lens you're gonna get at least a dollar for your shot. ;)
missellie
missellie
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5 Oct 2011 1:14am
Ok thanks again - the photos are amazing - a little larger than needed perhaps. I've checked out north Scarborough and City beach and the waves are breaking a little too far out at the moment and are about half the size I need. Dumpers (preferably head height or larger) onto sand or ankle deep water will work but any deeper and its too hard to get airborne.

Yes this can be done, I've seen it - the lady was a professional dancer who was able to combine a leap in the air with single and double pirouettes and time it so that the air expelled by the wave caught under her skirt and ballooned it out - this meant that the weaker waves held her in place longer than usual at the apex of her leap and the strongest ones lifted her higher. The number of rotations she could get from the strongest waves was mindblowing. So this has to happen where the coast is sand - landing on rock or wall is too dangerous, especially when the lady is descending from a higher than normally achieved level.

No I'm not wasting your tax dollar - don't get hecs and pay my own way or accumulate personal debt.

The film concept is built around the level of law breaking people will go to in order to express themselves - risks taken for the freedom of expression. It is easy to find cases of people breaking civil or criminal law - one of the other subjects in the film is burnouts. What i'm trying to find is a way to show someone expressing themselves by 'breaking' a law of nature (although she is actually 'using' a law of nature/physics).

I'll look into getting to yallingup if no-one can recommend anywhere closer and i'll post the footage (unedited) so you can see the result, if you still don't think it can be done.

I'm trying to learn the language and decipher meanings of swell, tides and wind direction - please be patient.

Would love it if you all keep looking> Thank you all so much.
Thanks for all the input
hamburglar
hamburglar
ACT
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5 Oct 2011 8:50am
you language english speak most better than here on
Ted the Kiwi
Ted the Kiwi
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5 Oct 2011 9:39am
Check out the graphs on seabrezze and it will give you an idea of the size of the swell which may save you a trip.

I reckon you should try and get some HDR funding and head over to Newport in California and visit the wedge - could have just what you are looking for.



Woodo
Woodo
WA
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5 Oct 2011 9:35am
All sounds a bit fishy to me but i'll bite...

If you want a wave that breaks right on or close to the shore then try the dog beach that runs from brighton to floreat. End of hale rd should be what your after.
All you'll need is some swell...
missellie
missellie
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5 Oct 2011 9:42am
Thanks Woodo,

Will have a look at that beach to day and keep watching the graphs to anticipate when/if the swell is going to improve.
evlPanda
evlPanda
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5 Oct 2011 12:48pm
Does this have anything to do with the lady's dress being quantum entangled with another dress that is space? Or is it even weirder?

PS this is fn weird.
Carantoc
Carantoc
WA
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5 Oct 2011 9:55am
There was a Yeti walking his dog down at Floreat beach last week.

I know it is true because I have seen it.

The Yeti was a professional dog walker.

Having said that it may have been a goat he was walking, I have heard they are a few goats about this time of year that enjoy nothing more than a quick swim in the ocean.

Just very quickly run a bit of physics past me :
a) estimated volume of air trapped by wave as it breaks
b) area of hole through which is escapes
c) time that it takes to escape
d) hence force generated
e) weight of person

I think you need to be looking for CGI film editing software, not shore breaks.
Carantoc
Carantoc
WA
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5 Oct 2011 9:58am
missellie said...

Yes this can be done, I've seen it - the lady was a professional dancer who was able to combine a leap in the air with single and double pirouettes and time it so that the air expelled by the wave caught under her skirt and ballooned it out - this meant that the weaker waves held her in place longer than usual at the apex of her leap and the strongest ones lifted her higher. The number of rotations she could get from the strongest waves was mindblowing.


Sorry, yes I saw that too.

It was in 'the Little Mermaid'. Did crab and a fish clap as she did it ?

Great documentry about the ocean that one.

dusta
dusta
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5 Oct 2011 10:02am
i'll drive you down to yallingup
BulldogPup
BulldogPup
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5 Oct 2011 10:04am
Yallingup - december / january thereabouts .... oh and the Pup ALSO offers his chauffeur service including air-conditioning , leather seated creature comfort , 10 speaker sound etc
felixdcat
felixdcat
WA
3519 posts
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5 Oct 2011 10:15am
missellie said...

Ok thanks again - the photos are amazing - a little larger than needed perhaps. I've checked out north Scarborough and City beach and the waves are breaking a little too far out at the moment and are about half the size I need. Dumpers (preferably head height or larger) onto sand or ankle deep water will work but any deeper and its too hard to get airborne.

Yes this can be done, I've seen it - the lady was a professional dancer who was able to combine a leap in the air with single and double pirouettes and time it so that the air expelled by the wave caught under her skirt and ballooned it out - this meant that the weaker waves held her in place longer than usual at the apex of her leap and the strongest ones lifted her higher. The number of rotations she could get from the strongest waves was mindblowing. So this has to happen where the coast is sand - landing on rock or wall is too dangerous, especially when the lady is descending from a higher than normally achieved level.

No I'm not wasting your tax dollar - don't get hecs and pay my own way or accumulate personal debt.

The film concept is built around the level of law breaking people will go to in order to express themselves - risks taken for the freedom of expression. It is easy to find cases of people breaking civil or criminal law - one of the other subjects in the film is burnouts. What i'm trying to find is a way to show someone expressing themselves by 'breaking' a law of nature (although she is actually 'using' a law of nature/physics).

I'll look into getting to yallingup if no-one can recommend anywhere closer and i'll post the footage (unedited) so you can see the result, if you still don't think it can be done.

I'm trying to learn the language and decipher meanings of swell, tides and wind direction - please be patient.

Would love it if you all keep looking> Thank you all so much.
Thanks for all the input

Pictures or it didn't happened!
GalahOnTheBay
GalahOnTheBay
NSW
4188 posts
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5 Oct 2011 1:28pm
^^^ +1

Video is also acceptable

missellie said...

Ok thanks again - the photos are amazing - a little larger than needed perhaps. I've checked out north Scarborough and City beach and the waves are breaking a little too far out at the moment and are about half the size I need. Dumpers (preferably head height or larger) onto sand or ankle deep water will work but any deeper and its too hard to get airborne.


That's the biggest the world has to offer (apparently) and is about 4-5 times the height of the person (measured from the front )

Getting anywhere near that kind / size of wave is "unwise".
missellie
missellie
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6 posts
5 Oct 2011 10:30am
Sorry bulldog but have to have the film finished within a fortnight so dec/jan is out.

felix - haven't got photos - saw it done north scarborough, summer, few years ago and didn't have camera that day, wasn't a film student then, which is why i've offered to post unedited film footage IF I can find the waves. with the amount of work i've got to have finished in the next few weeks I don't have time to waste on chasing something that isn"t real.
I accept your right to disbelieve and look forward to posting some film.

please keep posting if you see big dumpers or hear of any large swell miraculously appearing! I don't understand all the graphs yet. please please please
felixdcat
felixdcat
WA
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5 Oct 2011 10:49am
missellie said...

Sorry bulldog but have to have the film finished within a fortnight so dec/jan is out.

felix - haven't got photos - saw it done north scarborough, summer, few years ago and didn't have camera that day, wasn't a film student then, which is why i've offered to post unedited film footage IF I can find the waves. with the amount of work i've got to have finished in the next few weeks I don't have time to waste on chasing something that isn"t real.
I accept your right to disbelieve and look forward to posting some film.

please keep posting if you see big dumpers or hear of any large swell miraculously appearing! I don't understand all the graphs yet. please please please

Not desbelieving.... would love to see it!
dusta
dusta
WA
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5 Oct 2011 11:04am
send me a pic and i can take you down to yallingup this weekend
Little Jon
Little Jon
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5 Oct 2011 2:16pm
I dump big every morning[}:)]
doggie
doggie
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5 Oct 2011 11:28am
Little Jon said...

I dump big every morning[}:)]


Was waiting for that
jbshack
jbshack
WA
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5 Oct 2011 11:33am
On a big swell or a bit of a storm it breaks right onto the beach at Quinns...But really not sure how big you need it to be.
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