Dishwashers - Do They Really Make Life Easier?

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MissTral
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19 Jan 2013 12:50pm
We're thinking about getting a dishwasher. Husband believes it will be the answer to all dish problems but I have heard otherwise....any thoughts and comments appreciated.
stuk
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19 Jan 2013 3:56pm
Best time saver ever up there with the creepy crawley for the pool and the rideon mower, anything that saves time and work.
chrispychru
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19 Jan 2013 2:56pm
well my 14 yo son thinks they do.... me, i tell him i am thinking of his future and want to be green. so start bloody washing kiddo
Indodreaming
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19 Jan 2013 1:12pm
what happens if he tells you they use less water than traditional washing up and less energy in terms of less water to heat.

We have one but the argument has gone from who is doing the dishes to who is going to empty the dishwasher.

Sometimes seems easier to me to just get on and wash up as you still have things that cant go in the machine

deejay8204
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19 Jan 2013 3:38pm
Love them,
rustbucket
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19 Jan 2013 4:44pm
Dishwashers - Do They Really Make Life Easier?

no not really they are usually on award wages unless you are sourcing the non domestic kind [slipped into the country] ...so the cost is not that cheap.

if they are legally here, they are usually some out of work struggling actor or TV personailty wannabee [maybe even a "Big Brother" contestant] who could / can leave you high and dry while slipping off to try out for some Celebrity Dancing tryout while your dishes sit drying "au naturel"

just dont do it...its akin to hiring a pretty "au pair" because you know one of you is going to be jealous...the agro is not worth it.


cheekydog
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19 Jan 2013 1:48pm
Once you have a dishwasher you won't go back.
GypsyDrifter
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19 Jan 2013 2:18pm
1 is good 2 is better...and raise them off the ground.

Seriously....a person that does not use a dishwasher surely invented it..?
It can really hurt your back being that low.
I raised mine 45cm's off the ground, best thing I ever did.
GPA
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19 Jan 2013 2:34pm
It's on the same level as a washing machine... once you have one you cannot not have one...

Put another way, if ours died and was unrepairable I would buy another one the next day. There are so many other things that I could be doing with my time, whether productive or leisure...
Beaglebuddy
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19 Jan 2013 2:49pm
Are you serious? What century are you living in?
dinsdale
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19 Jan 2013 7:46pm
cheekydog said...
Once you have a dishwasher you won't go back.


Not true!! We had one, and we have 5 kidz. All it did was shift the arguments from one place to another. In the end, with 7 people we had 1 day per week each. ie if it's your day you do 'em all for that day.

Most of the really grubby stuff (pots, baking trays etc) have to be washed by hand first and plates etc should be rinsed off first as well. Even then some stuff won't be washed properly.

Sold it after about 18 months and won't entertain another one ever again.
cRAZY Canuk
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19 Jan 2013 10:57pm
It's not going to solve all you problems, their good yes but lazy is lazy and there's no cure for that.
tmurray
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19 Jan 2013 8:16pm
We only use ours if we've had people over for dinner. For 2 people it would take 2-3 days to fill it, you still have to wash pots and pans and unloading it is a PITA.
gazza
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19 Jan 2013 8:17pm
You get what you pay for ours was over 2grand everything goes in it we don't even rinse the plates. always comes out spotless if you stack it right.

We stick ours on at night as its so quiet you can hardly hear it

Stick with Bosch or Miele can beat German technology

Takes 2 mins to unload and load as you use the items. I even stick it on twice a days when needed and there's only 2 of us.

Why wash up when you don't need to.......I don't get it!!!

GypsyDrifter
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19 Jan 2013 8:31pm
dinsdale said...
Most of the really grubby stuff (pots, baking trays etc) have to be washed by hand first and plates etc should be rinsed off first as well. Even then some stuff won't be washed properly.


I have had mine for over 8 years and don't have to rinse anything...
There is a pot cycle if you need it
and the only reason food will not come off the plate is if the filter is gross
or the spinny thing inside the washer has it's holes blocked up, like every thing you need to keep it clean and use a dishwasher cleaner once in a while..
The cycle you have selected has to be the correct cycle for what you are trying to clean and you can't use cheap washing power.
cRAZY Canuk
cRAZY Canuk
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19 Jan 2013 11:33pm
gazza said...
You get what you pay for ours was over 2grand everything goes in it we don't even rinse the plates. always comes out spotless if you stack it right.

We stick ours on at night as its so quiet you can hardly hear it

Stick with Bosch or Miele can beat German technology

Takes 2 mins to unload and load as you use the items. I even stick it on twice a days when needed and there's only 2 of us.

Why wash up when you don't need to.......I don't get it!!!




Seamanship (sp) made. By Bosch but cheaper, set to run at night during off peak
hamburglar
hamburglar
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19 Jan 2013 11:49pm
MissTral said...

We're thinking about getting a dishwasher. Husband believes it will be the answer to all dish problems but I have heard otherwise....any thoughts and comments appreciated.


Them dishwashers can be quite expensive
I had one and it cost me 1/2 of everything

:-0
MissTral
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21 Jan 2013 1:58am
Thanks everyone for your help! I will definitely look into getting one now - and raising it off the ground is a great idea! Bosch or Miele...again thanks for your input :)
myusernam
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21 Jan 2013 6:54am
GypsyDrifter said...
dinsdale said...
Most of the really grubby stuff (pots, baking trays etc) have to be washed by hand first and plates etc should be rinsed off first as well. Even then some stuff won't be washed properly.


I have had mine for over 8 years and don't have to rinse anything...
There is a pot cycle if you need it
and the only reason food will not come off the plate is if the filter is gross
or the spinny thing inside the washer has it's holes blocked up, like every thing you need to keep it clean and use a dishwasher cleaner once in a while..
The cycle you have selected has to be the correct cycle for what you are trying to clean and you can't use cheap washing power.


yeah It just gets another run if there is stuff still on it.
kiteboy dave
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21 Jan 2013 8:24am
Asko is also one of the highest rated. Read all the choice reviews when we chose our new one and Meile and Asko had the highest purchaser satisfaction ratings.

Don't get a F&P dishdrawer thingo they are too small, break all the time and cost a fortune to fix.
Sailhack
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21 Jan 2013 9:29am
Went to buy one about 7 years ago from the local appliances shop & asked the owner who I'd known for years which one's the best...he told me that he had a 'Bosch' & swore by it...but didn't sell them. He managed to get one for me, but I had to write out a cheque directly to Bosch. Very happy with it, no rinsing, quiet & economical.
Sailhack
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21 Jan 2013 9:32am
kiteboy dave said...
Don't get a F&P dishdrawer thingo they are too small, break all the time and cost a fortune to fix.


I installed a few dishdrawers over the years & the F&P have had some issues, mainly with seals & steam release. The 900w F&P single drawer is a good size for a small family or couple & (design-wise) works with most modern kitchens better than a 600.
evlPanda
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21 Jan 2013 11:12am
gazza said...
Stick with Bosch or Miele can beat German technology


If you can afford it get one. It'll last longer too, making it actually cheaper overall.
(PS This is a reason life is more expensive for poor people/off topic)

Our Miele is silent. As in you can't hear it. Nothing. I sometimes open it to put something dirty in and it's already running. Dishes are spotless and dry every time. Also it has a separate tray/level for cutlery, that rocks.
10/10.

rod_bunny
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21 Jan 2013 8:59am
Dont tell the missus but you can use the dishwasher for cleaning all sorts of non dish things... like bike/car parts. [}:)]

Also handy for cleaning all the racks from inside the oven and the stove top racks and burners.


If it can be washed, and there is some form of cleaning product that fits in the powder tray - it goes in the dishwasher.




If there is only 2 of you, do yourself a favour and get 2 sets of cutlery/crockery. That way you can always run a full load without running out of spoons etc.

Vinegar works well as a rinse aid - and heaps cheaper.
firiebob
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21 Jan 2013 9:22am
evlPanda said...
a separate tray/level for cutlery, that rocks.


Our Smeg has that and yes great feature. Our Smeg's been good but then we paid less than a 1/3rd for it, unwanted prize on FleaBay.

As for rinsing, the instructions say don't do it and we don't (I think the idea is to save water), everything's always cleaned spot on every time. Just stack as you go and when full hit go. Use a quality dishwasher tab, we use Finish Quantum.
myusernam
myusernam
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21 Jan 2013 1:02pm
oh yeah forgot to mention because of the temp it kills the bugs which is handy if you have chicken or seafood on cutting boards. If you get pissy at dinner and don't do the dishes untill the next day and you have been using the cutting board for chicken or fish you have to really steralise it or dishwasher is hot enough to cure all
felixdcat
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WA
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21 Jan 2013 11:12am
gazza said...
You get what you pay for ours was over 2grand everything goes in it we don't even rinse the plates. always comes out spotless if you stack it right.

We stick ours on at night as its so quiet you can hardly hear it

Stick with Bosch or Miele can beat German technology

Takes 2 mins to unload and load as you use the items. I even stick it on twice a days when needed and there's only 2 of us.

Why wash up when you don't need to.......I don't get it!!!




Had one for years, agree with what you said and also will add my 2cents! Buy good powder to use in it........... no Coles or Woolies expensive crap, was working for a manufacturer of commercial cleaning products and was told that in the domestic dish washer powder there is up to 50% salt (same for laundry powder) to dissolve grease you need a strong caustic content. Go to a place that sells to restaurants and pubs, can give you names if you need! You will save big time, it cost me about $ 50 a year for powder and drying aid!
d1
d1
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21 Jan 2013 1:00pm
evlPanda said...
gazza said...
Stick with Bosch or Miele can beat German technology


If you can afford it get one. It'll last longer too, making it actually cheaper overall.
(PS This is a reason life is more expensive for poor people/off topic)

Our Miele is silent. As in you can't hear it. Nothing. I sometimes open it to put something dirty in and it's already running. Dishes are spotless and dry every time. Also it has a separate tray/level for cutlery, that rocks.
10/10.




+1.

Current house came with Miele dishwasher made in the 80ies (definitely pre-reunification, label says "West Germany"). Still works 100%, daily runs, absolutely no issues, very quiet.

Had a few new Bosch ones before that. Also good, but prefer the cutlery tray on the Miele.

For us, the second most important kitchen appliance after the fridge...
kiteboy dave
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21 Jan 2013 4:32pm
Sailhack said...
kiteboy dave said...
Don't get a F&P dishdrawer thingo they are too small, break all the time and cost a fortune to fix.


I installed a few dishdrawers over the years ...


So you're to blame I admit it's great not bending so far. But bending down a bit once a day won't kill you either.

We moved into a house with a dishdrawer. Almost kept up with 2 of us, no kids, but still washing quite often. Then it broke. Got F&P to come fix. "Oh there was a recall, for the same issue as yours has, funny that. Not sure if yours was involved in the recall. Anyway, that'll be the best part of a grand to fix thanks." Anyway, argue argue argue and eventually after a few calls to the boss they only charged me for parts & service call, still over $500. Guy left, worked once, broke again the next day. Came to fix, wanted another $200 for parts and over $200 for the service call. Told them to shove that one, I'd pay for the other parts but not another service call.

Since then I've talked with heaps of people that have taken them out, even after replacing seals, too many ongoing issues.

Had the asko for 2 years now, never missed a beat, everything clean first time.
Pugwash
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21 Jan 2013 2:40pm
kiteboy dave said...
We moved into a house with a dishdrawer. Almost kept up with 2 of us, no kids, but still washing quite often. Then it broke. Got F&P to come fix. "Oh there was a recall, for the same issue as yours has, funny that. Not sure if yours was involved in the recall. Anyway, that'll be the best part of a grand to fix thanks." Anyway, argue argue argue and eventually after a few calls to the boss they only charged me for parts & service call, still over $500. Guy left, worked once, broke again the next day. Came to fix, wanted another $200 for parts and over $200 for the service call. Told them to shove that one, I'd pay for the other parts but not another service call.


Wowsers! Do they not know about the internet

New Bosch for $750!

http://www.thegoodguys.com.au/buyonline/Bosch_White_Freestanding_Dishwasher_SMS50E52AU
Sailhack
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21 Jan 2013 10:59pm
kiteboy dave said...

So you're to blame I admit it's great not bending so far. But bending down a bit once a day won't kill you either.


Sorry, I meant that I installed them into kitchens that I designed and built...the clients chose the appliances and their plumbers did the hooking up.
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