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pweedas
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1 Feb 2012 2:05pm
Asteroid101 said...

Amazing. I had to sign up just because of this topic!
I think some people are to quick to try and ostracise others in forums like these, in a inept attempt to portray themselves to be a "big shark" amongst the fish in the forum. So quick to disregard any concepts which step out of the three demensional box which the vastly unimaginative and socially engineered populous of earth thinks in..... Some of the science we learn has vast relevence to our lives, but this knowledge will only go so far , if it is not able to ask questions of itself ....if you look at a box from the outside people, you will see alot more than if u stay inside.

Instead of ridiculing razzonator for poor punctuation and grammer. Your time may be better used thinking about some of his outlandish, but plausible theory"s as if you cannot prove something is not possible. You cant say it hasnt or wont happen. If something is possible and all the contributing factors to enable it to happen are present. Then it is simply a matter of time before it happens. Time is merely a measure of the distance between an events . Im merely asking some of you to poke a few holes in your imagination box, and let some light in people.....without light, how can there be light travel?

My point is,

Science agrees
: space is expanding
: stars burn out
: stars form black holes once imploded


This is commonly agreed upon, however
If I use this information to create a self manufactured theory by allowing my brain to ignore its programmed hard drive, and run on only specific and relevent filed facts and its own impulse .....this is just one question that the three space facts listed above produce.

If a star burns out, and implodes, it changes the gravitational balance of its solar system, if one solar system is imploded by its star, this would change its gravitational effect on other systems in that galaxy, considering space is expanding it must be pulling different galaxys in differnt bearings contorting there design, there are now two factors which are constructing the gravitational balance of the universe, is it not fair to say that it is possible that if one solar system is lost from star implosion, (which is a regular event when you consider the overwhelming entirety of the cosmos) and it was held in a balance of orbit between several larger solar systems, that this could cause to closer systems to merge, or that perhaps a planet on the edge of the small solar system could be drawn to the pull of another system as its imploding star fails to reach it and destroy it in time due to its newfound orbit. This would mean its possible for a planet to be moved from solar system to system....perhaps this can be loosely applied as a theory when looking at galaxys......all this just from three little dot points, if u dont agree its possible for earth to relocate through one method or another, then u can no longer assume space is expanding, then space is not changing, no change means no events , and as time is the measure of the distance between events , no expansion of space = TIME STANDS STILL

But if u dont think this is possible to travell using earth as a vessell, than I guess u believe in no change, so I wont try to change your minds, they will just have to watch the earth spin as space stands still.

Razzonater, do not be discouraged by doubters and conformists, live your dreams. You have a refreshing train of thought, and am happy to discuss your ideas. 4years of study in quantum physics, and a vast understanding of metals magnetic properties due to my occupation, has only scratched the surface on the mysteries of space . Id be happy to converse further, thanks razzonator


Well that does it for me. I'm convinced.
When are we leaving? I'm packed and ready to go.
I've packed my windsurf gear. I hope that's ok. Is there a baggage limit?

Hang on,.. it's a bit hot today. Can we put it off 'til tomorrow?
My "three demensional box" is air conditioned so it's nice and cool in here.
Three demensional eh? Demented three times over?

Only joking asteroid101 man. Welcome anyway.
Although it sounds a lot like pm33 with another hat on.
Asteroid101
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1 Feb 2012 3:33pm
Evil pandA, I was actually reffering to the newfound gravity on solar systems on the other side of the imploded one, be it an x, y or z axis, solar systems from all these axis will have a new bearing and relevant gravitational influence on the imploded star and solar systems surrounding solar systems, this will cause them to reposition untill balance is again achieved. So no , myth not busted, just your mind.
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1 Feb 2012 4:27pm
doggie said...

I had three of them but the wheels fell off

Yea, mine was a red one, but same result. Damn wheels!!

doggie
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1 Feb 2012 4:33pm
dinsdale said...

doggie said...

I had three of them but the wheels fell off

Yea, mine was a red one, but same result. Damn wheels!!




Funny thing Dins, both those sentances made sence, unlike the rest of the thread
Razzonater
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1 Feb 2012 4:41pm
If I walk down the street and bounce a ball for 5 minutes and someone else walks on a moving train walking an identical speed as me bouncing the same ball the same amount of times the time and space the ball has covered is the same the only difference is the distance the ball has travelled . When talking about mass or density if something remains the same size but becomes denser such as a black hole it in fact does increase its gravitational pull on space around it I can guarantee that my theories may not be watertight however they are no less incorrect than anyone else's unless your theories are factual and in the words of Albert Einstein You cannot solve a problem you have created by using the same sort of thinking that got you there If anything if not entertaining I do believe this post has sparked an interesting debate between those who like being In the comfort zone of believing only what they have read and heard to those who are told believe half of what you see and none of what you hear ahhh nothing like irony oh and didn't we recently find out light is not the fastest thing anymore?
pweedas
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1 Feb 2012 4:56pm
I'm still waiting for how all this relates to cyclone Iggy.
Are we getting to that bit? The suspense is terrific!
Razzonater
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1 Feb 2012 5:19pm
As my first post stated my concern with cuclone iggy is that it will pass south of geraldton ( which it will) fortunately it is now downgraded and will probably only be a tropical storm also in my original post I was concerned about strong winds Friday which is very likely the real main concern is that we are in a position where cyclone iccy may start to be the norm in regards to how far south a cyclone can travel which is not something we have seen before
FireEngine
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1 Feb 2012 5:23pm
Asteroid101 said...

Evil pandA, I was actually reffering to the newfound gravity on solar systems on the other side of the imploded one, be it an x, y or z axis, solar systems from all these axis will have a new bearing and relevant gravitational influence on the imploded star and solar systems surrounding solar systems, this will cause them to reposition untill balance is again achieved. So no , myth not busted, just your mind.


Your theory that black holes present in our galaxy (or maybe even others) may have shifted the positioning of our entire solar system is plausible but the idea that our planet was previously orbiting another sun is not plausible. If there was a black hole nearby that started pulling us towards it (somehow without pulling everything else around us) we would see it's affects on our current solar system which we don't.

Razzonater your arguements just don't make sense.
Razzonater
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1 Feb 2012 5:43pm
Not everything that happens does make sense and thank you your right my cyclone track prediction was spot on also to the person with the time machine thank you my dark matter is prepared and ready to power your time machine just wondering if it's the tarsus model or other generations may know as the bill and teds phone box time machine or if you have the slightly more expensive delorion car model like Michael j fox in back to the future if it is the bill and Ted model can we stop mid 70s to surf Korea before the ground went in I'd like to talk to Michael Peterson about flouride in water if ya don't get the last comment read his book even slater reckons he was the best at Kirra ever FACT
Gestalt
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1 Feb 2012 8:04pm
Razzonater said...

As my first post stated my concern with cuclone iggy is that it will pass south of geraldton ( which it will) fortunately it is now downgraded and will probably only be a tropical storm also in my original post I was concerned about strong winds Friday which is very likely the real main concern is that we are in a position where cyclone iccy may start to be the norm in regards to how far south a cyclone can travel which is not something we have seen before




for last year see link below

australiasevereweather.com/tropical_cyclones/oper_2010_2011_australian_region_tropical_cyclones.htm
japie
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2 Feb 2012 12:00am
I took the dressing off my finger tonight. It had started to stink. My finger looks okay though.
cantswm4sht
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2 Feb 2012 12:04am
were laughing down here in vic, not so much as a line
theDoctor
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2 Feb 2012 12:33am


for phucks sake man...

use some sentence structure.

you're not einstien, you're not breaking new idealogical, intellectual or philosophical ground..

what you are, is impossible to read

Mark _australia
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1 Feb 2012 9:48pm
Razzonater said...

As my first post stated my concern with cuclone iggy is that it will pass south of geraldton ( which it will) fortunately it is now downgraded and will probably only be a tropical storm also in my original post I was concerned about strong winds Friday which is very likely the real main concern is that we are in a position where cyclone iccy may start to be the norm in regards to how far south a cyclone can travel which is not something we have seen before


We have seen it plenty before (see map above) helpfully posted by Gestalt.
It is only as we have the remnants of a La Nina year (summer 2010-11) where the ocean is still warmer. Cyclones degrade as they move over cooler water and form over warm water.

La Nina stuffs up the seabreezes and cyclones come further down sometimes cos the water is warmer.

No cause for concern
pweedas
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1 Feb 2012 11:42pm
Razzonater said...

Not everything that happens does make sense and thank you your right my cyclone track prediction was spot on also to the person with the time machine thank you my dark matter is prepared and ready to power your time machine just wondering if it's the tarsus model or other generations may know as the bill and teds phone box time machine or if you have the slightly more expensive delorion car model like Michael j fox in back to the future if it is the bill and Ted model can we stop mid 70s to surf Korea before the ground went in I'd like to talk to Michael Peterson about flouride in water if ya don't get the last comment read his book even slater reckons he was the best at Kirra ever FACT


Hey I know where I've head that voice before.
It's Harry Testies isn't it. Reincarnated as the Razzonater. And still on the same computer with the . key that doesn't work. Or the return key. Harry,.. where have you been?
Razzonater
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2 Feb 2012 9:01am
You can't make me use structured sentences no one can and yes it is still la Nina bear in mind as a percentage the amount of cyclones that reach geraldton is very low this will increase dramatically
Mark _australia
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2 Feb 2012 9:28am
Razzonater said...

You can't make me use structured sentences no one can and yes it is still la Nina bear in mind as a percentage the amount of cyclones that reach geraldton is very low this will increase dramatically


You do understand that La Nina is about one year in five, and so when we get back to the prevailing El Nino pattern, the chance of cyclones coming down this far will DROP not "increase dramatically" ??


I don't think you are scaring anyone
doggie
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2 Feb 2012 9:50am
Mark _australia said...

Razzonater said...

You can't make me use structured sentences no one can and yes it is still la Nina bear in mind as a percentage the amount of cyclones that reach geraldton is very low this will increase dramatically


You do understand that La Nina is about one year in five, and so when we get back to the prevailing El Nino pattern, the chance of cyclones coming down this far will DROP not "increase dramatically" ??


I don't think you are scaring anyone


I think he is talking to himself Mark
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2 Feb 2012 10:11am
theDoctor said...



For phucks sake man...

Use some sentence structure.

You're not Einstein. You're not breaking new ideological, intellectual or philosophical ground.

You are impossible to read.



Fixed it

evlPanda
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2 Feb 2012 1:15pm
Razzonater said...

If I walk down the street and bounce a ball for 5 minutes and someone else walks on a moving train walking an identical speed as me bouncing the same ball the same amount of times the time and space the ball has covered is the same the only difference is the distance the ball has travelled.


The time and space and even distance the ball has covered is the same as you walking, relative to the train. It is different relative to you walking.

I don't really see what you are trying to show us here.


When talking about mass or density if something remains the same size but becomes denser such as a black hole it in fact does increase its gravitational pull on space around it...


A star pumps out a lot of energy. When it runs out its own gravitational pull becomes greater than the energy it was pushing out. It now collapses upon itself. It becomes much, much smaller and as a result denser. Mass has a fixed amount of gravity. There is no new mass as it collapses, is there. There is no new gravity.

(note this happens for a particular size and type of star)

A black hole is simply a very, very ...very dense object. The mass of the sun that wasn't thrown out into space when it collapsed is now compressed into a seriously small piece of space. All that gravity that was once spread out across that much space is now in a very tiny space.

Imagine a sexy lady standing on a big plank of wood on your back. Now imagine them putting all their weight on your back in a pair of stilletos. Something like that.

Now imagine all the gravitational pull of a star thousands of times larger than our own, compressed into a pin head.


... I can guarantee that my theories may not be watertight however they are no less incorrect than anyone else's unless your theories are factual...





and in the words of Albert Einstein You cannot solve a problem you have created by using the same sort of thinking that got you there If anything if not entertaining I do believe this post has sparked an interesting debate between those who like being In the comfort zone of believing only what they have read and heard to those who are told believe half of what you see and none of what you hear ahhh nothing like irony oh and didn't we recently find out light is not the fastest thing anymore?


Light is still the fastest thing or are you in the comfort zone of only believing only what you read and hear? (yes I know about the neutrinos)

This is what always gets me about these type of know-it-alls. You contradict yourselves, sometimes twice in the same sentence, while saying we do.

Over and out.
Carantoc
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2 Feb 2012 11:42am
What is the most amazing thing about these possibilities is not that they exist, but that the rest of you are trying to argue with Razzonator.

He has spent years studing complex astro-physics, dynamic steller orbitology and quasi-gravitational geo-politics.

You people are not qualified to doubt somebody who is that well versed in the subjects.

Myself, on the other hand, have spent decades studing crazy people. And whilst I cannot dispute the logic behind the science of the Razz-thoeries, I can categorically state that Razzonator is what us crazyologists refer to as a mad-freak-insane-tard.
Razzonater
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2 Feb 2012 12:40pm
It's actually just over no need for out
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2 Feb 2012 1:41pm
Pastafarian of the world! The big spaghetti monster is coming! 21/12/12 will be day of pasta! I,ll have mine aldente!
Does that make sens?
TurtleHunter
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2 Feb 2012 5:01pm
Razzonater said...

It's actually just over no need for out

well actually over and out is used at the end of a conversation where as over would only be at the end of a comment and awaiting a reply.
pweedas
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2 Feb 2012 5:19pm
Well I can clear that bit up al least,...
Don't thank me. I'm happy to be of service.


Razzonater
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2 Feb 2012 7:57pm
Clearly it wasn't over and out as you stated as you replied to my reply which would indicate that the correct thing to say would've been over which would also lead me to believe that you wereBout 2 o'clock can't u read? wrong or incorrect and I was right or correct also to the person who posted video thankyou incorrect radio protocol led to my first spaceship landing in the wrOng sector Of Planet k PAC this is sierra bravo delta unit to base over (note correct radio protocol) see that even put words in brackets take that sentence structure police
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2 Feb 2012 8:54pm
Razzonater said...

Clearly it wasn't over and out as you stated as you replied to my reply which would indicate that the correct thing to say would've been over which would also lead me to believe that you wereBout 2 o'clock can't u read? wrong or incorrect and I was right or correct also to the person who posted video thankyou incorrect radio protocol led to my first spaceship landing in the wrOng sector Of Planet k PAC this is sierra bravo delta unit to base over (note correct radio protocol) see that even put words in brackets take that sentence structure police


You make me think you smoke meth.
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2 Feb 2012 11:01pm
poor relative said...

Razzonater said...

Clearly it wasn't over and out as you stated as you replied to my reply which would indicate that the correct thing to say would've been over which would also lead me to believe that you wereBout 2 o'clock can't u read? wrong or incorrect and I was right or correct also to the person who posted video thankyou incorrect radio protocol led to my first spaceship landing in the wrOng sector Of Planet k PAC this is sierra bravo delta unit to base over (note correct radio protocol) see that even put words in brackets take that sentence structure police


You make me think you smoke meth.

And some.......
Razzonater
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2 Feb 2012 9:01pm
Dear Carantoc did you study crazy people for ten years did you live with them were they relatives? I don't understand anyone spending time with crazy people maybe you can empathize with me cause you understand how many Christmas celebrations I've ruined with my crazy ideas when I was a kid it was Lego men on the edge of the toaster fighting to the death of course the pirate won and the helpless victim sometimes a Lego horse or dragon would fall victim to mount toasty and be incinerated down the bottom like dozens before mum n dad would spit it but I never really got why I mean they were my Lego men I can do what I want with them
Mark _australia
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2 Feb 2012 9:05pm
Razzonater said...

Clearly it wasn't over and out as you stated as you replied to my reply which would indicate that the correct thing to say would've been over which would also lead me to believe that you wereBout 2 o'clock can't u read? wrong or incorrect and I was right or correct also to the person who posted video thankyou incorrect radio protocol led to my first spaceship landing in the wrOng sector Of Planet k PAC this is sierra bravo delta unit to base over (note correct radio protocol) see that even put words in brackets take that sentence structure police


Radio protocol? I think you have been 10-100 for this whole thread
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