ikw777 said...
Seriously, what do you guys prefer as a way of accessing an accurate verdict in cases like these:

a) trial in front of Judge and Jury where evidence is weighed and measured; or,
b) trial by social media where forum lurkers indulge in unsubstantiated speculation.

Trial by Judge Judy, and not having to see it or hear about it anywhere on Australian media would be my first choice.

ikw777 said...

evlPanda said...

Beaglebuddy said...
One night I was awakened by the sound of someone fiddling with the front door lock, I sat up in bed to listen more intently, definitely what I was hearing so I reached into the nightstand and retrieved my .40 caliber pistol, then I heard the front door opening so I crept out of bed towards the hallway, then the door closed and I could hear footsteps across the hardwood floor coming my way, from a concealed position I called out, " who's there?, who is that?" silence, then a female voice called out, "it's me Molly"
I was so mad, my wife had given her a key to spend the night and had failed to tell me.
But I never even got as far as chambering a round or pointing the pistol.
What the blade runner did was reckless manslaughter in the least.

Lucky you had a gun, and I think this illustrates perfectly why every home should have a loaded gun in the nightstand.

Top comment Panda. Ever.

What do you mean ? If Beaglebuddy shoot poor Moly , then very unlikely will be writing on SB right now. Our prisons and justice system are not so lenient as Africans.
They have 11% success in putting killer behind the bars since in modern world that is 5o to 60%

ikw777 said...

doggie said...

ikw777 said...
Seriously, what do you guys prefer as a way of accessing an accurate verdict in cases like these:

a) trial in front of Judge and Jury where evidence is weighed and measured; or,
b) trial by social media where forum lurkers indulge in unsubstantiated speculation.

B

Sigh.

Beaglebuddy said...
retrieved my .40 caliber pistol, from a concealed position I called out, " who's there?, who is that?"
What the blade runner did was reckless manslaughter in the least.

Beagle did everything right.
He identified the (potential) target before shooting.
This was the first thing my father taught me about firearms.
"only point a firearm at what you are prepared to shoot"

The only thing Beagle did wrong was pick up a .40 cal,
Everyone knows .45 is the way to go for burglar busting.

And yep- I agree with Beagle about the verdict too, but I prefer to let the system do its bit.

stephen

Nike must be wandering who will be next.

rod_bunny said...

sn said...
"only point a firearm at what you are prepared to kill"

nope- that came a couple of years later when I started hunting.
Dad started me with air rifles and paper targets at 6 years old.

stephen

ikw777 said...

Macroscien said...

ikw777 said...

evlPanda said...

Beaglebuddy said...
One night I was awakened by the sound of someone fiddling with the front door lock, I sat up in bed to listen more intently, definitely what I was hearing so I reached into the nightstand and retrieved my .40 caliber pistol, then I heard the front door opening so I crept out of bed towards the hallway, then the door closed and I could hear footsteps across the hardwood floor coming my way, from a concealed position I called out, " who's there?, who is that?" silence, then a female voice called out, "it's me Molly"
I was so mad, my wife had given her a key to spend the night and had failed to tell me.
But I never even got as far as chambering a round or pointing the pistol.
What the blade runner did was reckless manslaughter in the least.

Lucky you had a gun, and I think this illustrates perfectly why every home should have a loaded gun in the nightstand.

Top comment Panda. Ever.

What do you mean ? If Beaglebuddy shoot poor Moly , then very unlikely will be writing on SB right now. Our prisons and justice system are not so lenient as Africans.
They have 11% success in putting killer behind the bars since in modern world that is 5o to 60%

I think you misapprehend Panda's meaning, Macroscien.

^ ...I don't even...


[Gets on soapbox]

It just seems to me so blatantly obvious that having a gun in your house is dangerous that I find it unimaginable that anyone can think any differently about it. Beagle's little story designed to illustrate safety came off as sounding dangerous and life threatening. There are so many "what ifs" it ain't funny.

If I have a coffee table in the house it is more likely I am going to trip over it than if I didn't. If I have a dog in the house it is more likely I will get bitten by it than if I didn't. If I have a wife in the house it is more likely I am going to be pulling hair out of the drains than if I didn't. And so on.

DO YOU PEOPLE SEE THE PATTERN HERE?

Hey look, someone at somewhere reputable did a real, actual scientific study on the matter and didn't just write a lot of stuff from their gut, or their heart, or their own experience, or ideas on a blog or in an opinion section:

Source: academic.oup.com/aje/article/160/10/929/140858

Data from a US mortality follow-back survey were analyzed to determine whether having a firearm in the home increases the risk of a violent death in the home and whether risk varies by storage practice, type of gun, or number of guns in the home. Those persons with guns in the home were at greater risk than those without guns in the home of dying from a homicide in the home (adjusted odds ratio = 1.9, 95% confidence interval: 1.1, 3.4). They were also at greater risk of dying from a firearm homicide, but risk varied by age and whether the person was living with others at the time of death. The risk of dying from a suicide in the home was greater for males in homes with guns than for males without guns in the home (adjusted odds ratio = 10.4, 95% confidence interval: 5.8, 18.9). Persons with guns in the home were also more likely to have died from suicide committed with a firearm than from one committed by using a different method (adjusted odds ratio = 31.1, 95% confidence interval: 19.5, 49.6). Results show that regardless of storage practice, type of gun, or number of firearms in the home, having a gun in the home was associated with an increased risk of firearm homicide and firearm suicide in the home.

Are you actually protecting your family by having a gun in the house. Really? Were you never a teenager with a short fuse, full of angst that never had a problem that was exaggerated by an overabundance of hormones and perhaps too many beers?

P.S. (you'll like this) I am actually saddened by the possibility of Americans losing their second amendment (it's an amendment right, so it can be amended) because I really just like the whole ethos of personal freedom. Whatever that may be. I guess that right can be abused too.

^^^^ ooops sorry!