1st is an interview with the captain. Of course he's going to say it's a wonderful boat, great for the environment.

2nd is an interview with the head of the company who brought it over. Of course he's going to say it's a wonderful boat, great for the environment.

3rd is an opinion piece attacking Labor via minister Tony Burke, and behind a paywall. The guy Van Onselen has written 2 biographies of Little Johnny howard, and one on how great the Liberal party is, introduced by Alan Jones. you think he's a Lib by any chance, taking a potshot at Lab?

Despite it being behind a paywall, I'm gonna take a stab and guess he says it's a wonderful boat, great for the environment.

How about finding 3 less biased stories?

Main problem with aquaculture is it is often used to grow high value fish ( eg tuna) and they are fed wild caught low value fish ( eg the stuff the mega trawler catches)

Conversion rate is often around 10 to 1 ie: 100 t of wild caught fish makes 10 tonne of tuna

Lot of work on using grains ect as feeds but if you want to feed the
Masses feed them the grain .

Not to say aquaculture will never help but it's not a front runner for
Saving the world/ marine environment.

I think the main cause of the problem is this

There are now over 7 billion humans on this plannet that need to eat.

Maybe if this was reduced or controlled we wouldnt have half the issues we have, including where is the food going to come from

^^^ global overpopulation will be the biggest issue the human race will face it will have a much greater effect than climate change and will be an issue long before climate change is.
But there really seems to be no discussions on this !!!

I don't like the fact the trawler is here but...
18 months of seeking state and federal govmint approval to bring the thing here, rubber stamp from the EPA (the ship did not decide to sail to Oz on a whim).
Greenies get a bit upset when it sails over the horizon and the Ranga pulls a fast one to get a boost in the ratings.
If you had spend much time and effort to meet all the regulatory requirements to bring the thing here, then get slapped at the last moment by to govmint that initally approved it, I'd be pissed off. No certainty now in any form of agriculture now.
Farmers beware, PETA is on you're case. You'll have to walk your cows and sheep to town for slaughter as mass transport by trucks will soon be outlawed.

Actually I think this is a good example of Democracy working!
Something happens, massive public outcry about it, government responds to their employer "the people".
Sometimes community feeling is more important than profit, or even science! (says me - a scientist). In this case the science may be valid in that it may not do any more damage than existing fishing quotas allow - but the public PERCEPTION is that by allocating such a large quota to 1 vessel significantly reduces the amount available to other commercial operators, including Australian small businesses.
Not too mention that the environmental impact is (as often) likely to be significantly downstated.
I think the really interesting point with these supertrawlers is that they do not operate consistently in any one year - if it's not economically viable to do so, it's extremely unlikely that it's environmentally sustainable. Whatever the paid for "science" says.

PS I agree with all those who said - lets focus on reducing world population growth rather than trying to figure out how to feed everyone.

laurie said...

Enjoy life folks. Seabreeze is for lighthearted fun.

Have a good look into the fishing industry and you will be shocked at what is really happening with the quota system and the value adding of the catch. At the moment for each ton of landed fish means that the "Dead" by product was about 3 ton. This is thrown over board.

The "Super trawler" didn,t value add, what went into the net was caught,kept and sold. No waste or rubbery figures. A 12 ton quota meant just that, not as most small trawlers do, 12 ton catch and 36ton of stuff that didn,t really count. Time to clean up the whole system i think and not just blame a big big boat

grumplestiltskin said...

I think the main cause of the problem is this

There are now over 7 billion humans on this plannet that need to eat.

Maybe if this was reduced or controlled we wouldnt have half the issues we have, including where is the food going to come from

And Australia is not going to save the world!

tmurray said...

So are you saying there is NO bycatch. Zero. None.
No non-target species, no jellyfish, no marine mammals, or seabirds. Not even any garbage.
I'm not sure which concerns me more - the bits of seagull in the tinned herring or whatever they're catching, or your willing suspension of disbelief.

No what i said is ,all by catch is counted as part of the quota and can be sold

No value adding of catches

kato said...

tmurray said...

So are you saying there is NO bycatch. Zero. None.
No non-target species, no jellyfish, no marine mammals, or seabirds. Not even any garbage.
I'm not sure which concerns me more - the bits of seagull in the tinned herring or whatever they're catching, or your willing suspension of disbelief.

No what i said is ,all by catch is counted as part of the quota and can be sold

No value adding of catches

So including non target species - ie everything is fair game?? And there is seagull in the tins??
Awesome. Plus 1 for factory fishing then.

But the greed is also what drives us to do better...

I stand corrected.

Seems YOU CAN actually sell anything...






And my personal favourite....





....we wont even start on who seems to be eating the shredded dolphin

My intention in this thread was to offer access to articles that may aid the formation of a balanced opinion. The discerning among us will gather as much information as possible to avoid jumping to false conclusions.

At first the posts were reasonable. I don't expect everyone to agree with what I have learnt with 30 years experience in this field.

It then degenerated into a soapbox for the deranged to vent their contempt for society.

Talk of human culling would be offensive in most cultures I would suggest.

The third riech won few freinds with this particular policy.

One freak even thinks the marine habitat would benefit from the deliberate sabotage of a large vessel with hundreds of tons of fuel oil aboard.

This fool claims to have conducted research then overstates the net size 7 fold. He then calls other people retards.

I would wager said fool is a greenpeace member because this is exactly how these degenerates think. I have had contact with them several times.

Anyone wondering why the so called activists were so quiet when the Margiris arrived in Port Lincoln? Federal police working in conjunction with state law enforcement arrested them for conspiring to commit criminal activity.

Sabotage and piracy are criminal activities they are involved by their own admission

I'm over this. I have more constructive ways to invest my time.

You blokes can rave on with all the bush!t and crap you want.

I won't see it.

Gwendy said...

My intention in this thread was to offer access to articles that may aid the formation of a balanced opinion. The discerning among us will gather as much information as possible to avoid jumping to false conclusions.

At first the posts were reasonable. I don't expect everyone to agree with what I have learnt with 30 years experience in this field.

It then degenerated into a soapbox for the deranged to vent their contempt for society.

Talk of human culling would be offensive in most cultures I would suggest.

The third riech won few freinds with this particular policy.

One freak even thinks the marine habitat would benefit from the deliberate sabotage of a large vessel with hundreds of tons of fuel oil aboard.

This fool claims to have conducted research then overstates the net size 7 fold. He then calls other people retards.

I would wager said fool is a greenpeace member because this is exactly how these degenerates think. I have had contact with them several times.

Anyone wondering why the so called activists were so quiet when the Margiris arrived in Port Lincoln? Federal police working in conjunction with state law enforcement arrested them for conspiring to commit criminal activity.

Sabotage and piracy are criminal activities they are involved by their own admission

I'm over this. I have more constructive ways to invest my time.

You blokes can rave on with all the bush!t and crap you want.

I won't see it.

Thanks for trying,it was a good idea