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doggie
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12 Oct 2012 9:40am
WTF

A council in Victoria has banned a group of teenagers from playing frisbee in a local park until they buy a $120 permit, the Herald Sun reports.

According to officials at Melbourne's Glen Eira City Council, frisbee is considered a sport and as such the group needs a special permit if they want to keep playing in the local park.

Yoav Silverstein, 17, said he and a group of friends regularly caught up to play and they were shocked when a council officer told them they needed a permit.

Silverstein's father said the teenagers had been given a choice to buy a one-off permit for $120 or a six-month permit for more than $300.

"It just seems exorbitant at any price," he said.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8546949
felixdcat
felixdcat
WA
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12 Oct 2012 9:45am
What a load of crap! Councils are leeches............ then you wonder why kids play XboX inside with that sort of attitude........... soon a license for windsurfing or kiking a ball in a park Should be a license for wearing yellow and pink polka dot shorts over your wet suit while hanging like a tea bag......... that would be just fair enough!
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
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12 Oct 2012 1:37pm
C'mon fellas whole story maybe?

They are running a regular event there, how many people and how often?

I get the feeling this "playing regularly" could well be a a whole bunch of people same day every week or something and maybe somebody has complained. No council is ever gonna do this for one-off or casual use (duh)

The link no longer works?


The Australian says it was "most Fridays"

If 10 blokes played a footy game in a local park to the exclusion of everyone else every Fri arvo, then I'd expect the council to do something
Mobydisc
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12 Oct 2012 4:45pm
Mark _australia said...
C'mon fellas whole story maybe?

They are running a regular event there, how many people and how often?

I get the feeling this "playing regularly" could well be a a whole bunch of people same day every week or something and maybe somebody has complained. No council is ever gonna do this for one-off or casual use (duh)

The link no longer works?







Even if its a regular event, shouldn't people be allowed to throw a frisbee around a council park?

Whats the point of paying council rates if you have to pay to use anything run by the council anyway?
People talk about getting rid of a layer of government in Australia, usually discussing the states. I think local government is a layer that just seems to make life hard for people. So its a prime candidate for removal.

Local roads could be maintained by the state roads department. Garbage is pretty well handled by private companies. Libraries and swimming pools could operate as commercial ventures. Planning laws could be handled by state governments as they increasingly do anyway as some local councils are run by anti development councillors.

Council rangers..... If we need them they could be working for a private company. It would be a profitable business.



doggie
doggie
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12 Oct 2012 1:48pm
Mark _australia said...
C'mon fellas whole story maybe?

They are running a regular event there, how many people and how often?

I get the feeling this "playing regularly" could well be a a whole bunch of people same day every week or something and maybe somebody has complained. No council is ever gonna do this for one-off or casual use (duh)

The link no longer works?






I cant see how, even if 10 people, were using frisbees it would impact the park.
Its like saying that joggers running aroumd the same park would have to pay as well. Its just silly tbh.
Would you like to pay everytime you go for a sail?
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
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12 Oct 2012 1:52pm
^^^ my issue firstly is that it is typical media making it sound like a council banned frisbee use without a permit. NO, they have approached a specific group in specific circumstances about their high use etc.

Anyway yes we all pay our rates and the area is for all.
But that is why these things have to be dealt with. Because it is common use you have to have some rules to make it fair. You can't have a small park where Fri is 30 blokes playing footy, Sat is frisbee day for 20 people and Sunday is a club of 100 people racing noisy remote controlled cars. Then the footy guys want to move to Saturday and it is a sh!tfight.
And / or council gets sued


Gotta draw the line somewhere and wherever the line is, somebody will whine so I won't lose any sleep over it
Spotty
Spotty
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12 Oct 2012 5:36pm
Same again here in the nanny state with flying kites in parks... We used to make all sorts of kites in primary school and fly them on the oval, down the park, where ever, never a problem.
www.heraldsun.com.au/nocookies?a=A.flavipes

Can't have a fit healthy wealthy aware society we might work out what they are up to stay at home people and watch the tube.......

Pitbull
Pitbull
WA
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12 Oct 2012 3:02pm
For $120 you'd want the council to supply a naked chick to throw it to you on a daily basis.
Jefin
Jefin
VIC
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12 Oct 2012 6:24pm
Pitbull said...
For $120 you'd want the council to supply a naked chick to throw it to you on a daily basis.


As long as you get to pick the chick
GypsyDrifter
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WA
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12 Oct 2012 3:31pm
doggie said...

WTF

A council in Victoria has banned a group of teenagers from playing frisbee in a local park until they buy a $120 permit, the Herald Sun reports.

According to officials at Melbourne's Glen Eira City Council, frisbee is considered a sport and as such the group needs a special permit if they want to keep playing in the local park.

Yoav Silverstein, 17, said he and a group of friends regularly caught up to play and they were shocked when a council officer told them they needed a permit.

Silverstein's father said the teenagers had been given a choice to buy a one-off permit for $120 or a six-month permit for more than $300.

"It just seems exorbitant at any price," he said.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8546949



Your cute when you are angry doggie
must be that new avatar
doggie
doggie
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12 Oct 2012 3:39pm
GypsyDrifter said...
doggie said...

WTF

A council in Victoria has banned a group of teenagers from playing frisbee in a local park until they buy a $120 permit, the Herald Sun reports.

According to officials at Melbourne's Glen Eira City Council, frisbee is considered a sport and as such the group needs a special permit if they want to keep playing in the local park.

Yoav Silverstein, 17, said he and a group of friends regularly caught up to play and they were shocked when a council officer told them they needed a permit.

Silverstein's father said the teenagers had been given a choice to buy a one-off permit for $120 or a six-month permit for more than $300.

"It just seems exorbitant at any price," he said.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8546949



Your cute when you are angry doggie
must be that new avatar


thats what my gf says, makes me more angry
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
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12 Oct 2012 6:12pm
Spotty said...
Same again here in the nanny state with flying kites in parks... We used to make all sorts of kites in primary school and fly them on the oval, down the park, where ever, never a problem.
www.heraldsun.com.au/nocookies?a=A.flavipes

Can't have a fit healthy wealthy aware society we might work out what they are up to stay at home people and watch the tube.......



Kites? OK that is a bit dumb. Very dumb
but have u seen what a modern electric RC fighter is capable of? About 200kph.
Members of RC plane clubs have insurance, dumb bums don't.

If your kid was hit and killed by a dumb bum learner with a fast plane and the council allowed it would you be so generous?

Rex
Rex
WA
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12 Oct 2012 6:57pm
Councils really are damned either way sometimes, and people being the tools they are - are barely capable of regulating themselves. Watching morons playing cricket in a crowded park and using a real ball (hard)........you begin to understand the regulations.

doggie
doggie
WA
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12 Oct 2012 7:24pm
Mark _australia said...
Spotty said...
Same again here in the nanny state with flying kites in parks... We used to make all sorts of kites in primary school and fly them on the oval, down the park, where ever, never a problem.
www.heraldsun.com.au/nocookies?a=A.flavipes

Can't have a fit healthy wealthy aware society we might work out what they are up to stay at home people and watch the tube.......



Kites? OK that is a bit dumb. Very dumb
but have u seen what a modern electric RC fighter is capable of? About 200kph.
Members of RC plane clubs have insurance, dumb bums don't.

If your kid was hit and killed by a dumb bum learner with a fast plane and the council allowed it would you be so generous?




Dounut Mark?
essedon
essedon
TAS
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12 Oct 2012 11:02pm
Yes and my Council banned ball games in Park next to pool because of safety concerns ,also fenced off pool for safety even though there was a a river 19 metres away , and then wanted Boot camp groups to pay for park use when they already had Active groups run by council .
cisco
cisco
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13 Oct 2012 12:43am
I thought you all knew. Freedom and Playing are not allowed any more.
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
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12 Oct 2012 11:08pm
Hey Cisco for one who claims the media doesn't fool ya, I think "freedom and playing not allowed" is a bit WTF? I think you are still allowed to throw a frisbee mate, and don't let NineMSN tell you otherwise.

So Cisco and the rest of the crew who believe this media beat up.....

I think we agree that 2 guys can throw a frisbee in the park tomorrow.

However, I think we probably agree that 100 people could not throw frisbees for 8 hrs every single day in the same park. Would not be fair on the dog watchers or bird walkers or whatever the fkn non-watersports people do to get their jollies. Weirdos. But I digress...

So where do we draw the line? Somebody has to draw it..... and no matter where the line is drawn, somebody will sook about it.



Given all the stuff going on in the world, who.gives.a.fk

???
Scotty88
Scotty88
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13 Oct 2012 8:48am
I wonder if a few aboriginal fellas started throwing a few boomerangs around the local park if they would be slugged $120 permit fee.

Note: Some politically correct do-gooders may decide to view the above comment as racist. I am not racist in anyway and have grown up with many aboriginal people and have the utmost respect for their heritage and strongly believe it is a disgrace that aboriginal people weren't allowed to vote until 1968. Hope I have covered myself.
cisco
cisco
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13 Oct 2012 11:48am
Mark _australia said...

Given all the stuff going on in the world, who.gives.a.fk

???


I'll go with that.

Rex
Rex
WA
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13 Oct 2012 11:24am
Mark _australia said...

So where do we draw the line? Somebody has to draw it..... and no matter where the line is drawn, somebody will sook about it.




That pretty well covers where we are at.

Pitbull
Pitbull
WA
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13 Oct 2012 2:12pm
Rex said...
Mark _australia said...

So where do we draw the line? Somebody has to draw it..... and no matter where the line is drawn, somebody will sook about it.




That pretty well covers where we are at.




If you draw the line in the park, it may incur a $120 infringement.
pueter66
pueter66
QLD
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13 Oct 2012 5:15pm
cisco said...
Mark _australia said...

Given all the stuff going on in the world, who.gives.a.fk

???


I'll go with that.




Has anyone ever seen an aborigine throw a boomerang anywhere? I worked right around australia and i have seen them throw a few things but never a boomerang. I saw a yank throw one once.
Scotty88
Scotty88
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13 Oct 2012 3:26pm
I seen one throw a brick threw a bus window.
Btw it didn't come back.
Note: This comment should not be percieved as being racist - just an observation.
pueter66
pueter66
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13 Oct 2012 6:21pm
Scotty88 said...
I seen one throw a brick threw a bus window.
Btw it didn't come back.
Note: This comment should not be percieved as being racist - just an observation.


I bet the bus driver never came back as well
Hamsta
Hamsta
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13 Oct 2012 5:31pm
When I was a little kid, my older brothers and I used to pool our funds and buy model rockets. The local park became Cape Canaveral and we would regularly celebrate another successful mission into space (the space of someones back yard). In my excitement at the prospect of sending a plastic soldier into space I egged them on to add an extra 'motor' to our piss-ant rocket. We had our own version of Columbia and I let the cat out of the bag. Mission Control (Dad & Mum) mothballed our space program for good with a ban on space flight funding for ages afterwards, the proceeds were redirected to compensate our neighbor who's window was completely phucked.

You cannot even play golf with a training ball in a park nowadays.
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
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13 Oct 2012 6:49pm
Hamsta said...
When I was a little kid, my older brothers and I used to pool our funds and buy model rockets. The local park became Cape Canaveral and we would regularly celebrate another successful mission into space (the space of someones back yard). In my excitement at the prospect of sending a plastic soldier into space I egged them on to add an extra 'motor' to our piss-ant rocket. We had our own version of Columbia and I let the cat out of the bag. Mission Control (Dad & Mum) mothballed our space program for good with a ban on space flight funding for ages afterwards, the proceeds were redirected to compensate our neighbor who's window was completely phucked.

You cannot even play golf with a training ball in a park nowadays.


Was there 10 of you, with multiple launches each , EVERY Friday afternoon?

Hamsta
Hamsta
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13 Oct 2012 10:54pm
Nope, just me and my two brothers and occasionally my sister. Which was probably for the best as if we had more aspiring astronauts and $ the neighborhood probably would have ended up like the Gaza Strip.

I read somewhere that the steady increase in the number of 'boot camps' run by personal trainers has caught the attention of some councils who want to start charging a fee for the PT's to use 'public' facilities.

How long before those unfortunate enough or so time poor that they have to surf Trigg or Scarborough have to pay to park at the beach?

Wasn't the article from an eastern states paper? Why do I sometimes think that some of these threads are a bit like watching TT or ACA?

harry potter
harry potter
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14 Oct 2012 2:53am
It's all about the $$$$ council smells a free feed and they pounce...
Council: You can still do the activity as we don't think it is dangerous or impinging anyone but pay us $120 to do it.......
Why?... Why do you have to pay ? If it was a danger to the public one could understand it being a total ban, but council are in effect saying " pay us and you can do it"
It's not council property it's public property council are our employees.... Local government are getting too big for their boots.
stamp
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old4dy
old4dy
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14 Oct 2012 10:58am
Hi all great discussion.

I live in the Blue Mtns and am a very keen kite buggy nut, I have been slapped with a ban by the local council for kite buggying on local sportsfields.

At present am only allowed to static fly, but hopefully this will change soon.
Am awaiting the new administration to settle in after local elections .

Then I wil start writing letters again, is funny with local government how they are a law unto themselves, and never respond to letters.

Have taken pics of signage at sportsfields

Have spotted RC plane flyers on sportsfields as well as golfers practicing

Any more information would be appreciated.
kitelooper1
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14 Oct 2012 11:34am
VB MAN said...

Everytime I return to Australia, be it from England, Europe, Asia, mid east wherever, the first thing that hits me is the rules. We have way too many rules and laws and safety fears, that nowadays it's almost illegal to walk across a street without wearing HI VIS clothing.




It is because of compulsory voting. Those that dont work, those that are on benefits, those that do work but are brain washed unionist/socialists and those that want to run others lives that vote for left leaning parties including the Labor Party. They have themselves to blame because the Labour Party philosophically wants to intervene with laws and then run corrupt closed shops with their bully boys.

If all the poor souls that have been forced to wear Hi Vis new a little history and literature they would understand the symbolic nature of their prison uniform that they wear.

Ahh the golden years in Oz have come and gone and the slide down the slippery slope is getting steeper and faster.

I pray to Allah.
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