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barn
barn
WA
2960 posts
WA, 2960 posts
21 Oct 2011 4:26pm
doggie said...


Im sure that you live on another planet to us barn.


Same planet, just living in a different era..

It was once deemed acceptable to keep slaves, murder Tasmanians and shoot whales.. Those notions are now outdated, and the slave holders and genocidal Australians are now seen as worse than backward.. In the future, people who needlessly kill protected species will be looked upon as cowards by everyone.. Not just me..

doggie
doggie
WA
15849 posts
WA, 15849 posts
21 Oct 2011 4:29pm
barn said...

doggie said...


Im sure that you live on another planet to us barn.


Same planet, just living in a different era..

It was once deemed acceptable to keep slaves, murder Tasmanians and shoot whales.. Those notions are now outdated, and the slave holders and genocidal Australians are now seen as worse than backward.. In the future, people who needlessly kill protected species will be looked upon as cowards by everyone.. Not just me..




Ah, the fishing is good today fox - bang
BulldogPup
BulldogPup
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6657 posts
21 Oct 2011 4:36pm
^^^^^ hehehe cheeky sod
barn
barn
WA
2960 posts
WA, 2960 posts
21 Oct 2011 5:29pm
BulldogPup said...

^^^^^ hehehe cheeky sod


When Doggies fishing, I bite and pull as hard as I can until he drinks all his beer and goes home..

His face after a few hours of fishing..

dinsdale
dinsdale
WA
1227 posts
WA, 1227 posts
21 Oct 2011 5:45pm
brady said...
Dugites are brown snakes -although potentially nasty, about 70% have no venom administered

Dugites are a brown colour - they are NOT of the species "brown snake". The antivenene is different, so don't mix them up. Both varieties (with variants) are common in SW WA, including the King Browns.

However, you're correct about most snake bites not needing antivenene. Also, a compression bandage, promptly and correctly applied does provide quite a few hours in which to find a hospital with the correct antivenene. If you're miles from anywhere, there's a reasonable likelihood that a compression bandage, promptly and correctly applied, and lying down resting in the shade (watch for shock) will see you through.

After the scare is over, they're lovely eating
dinsdale
dinsdale
WA
1227 posts
WA, 1227 posts
21 Oct 2011 6:01pm
BulldogPup said...
My old fella's got a resident tiger (yellow-belly black) ...

Make up yer mind - they're 2 different species!

busterwa
busterwa
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3782 posts
21 Oct 2011 8:03pm
here is the dirty little forker !



busterwa
busterwa
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3782 posts
21 Oct 2011 8:09pm
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BabaORiley
BabaORiley
WA
434 posts
WA, 434 posts
22 Oct 2011 4:35am
busterwa said...

here is the dirty little forker !






Do something about those roof tiles Busta before it rains
petermac33
petermac33
WA
6415 posts
WA, 6415 posts
22 Oct 2011 5:18am
i remember when i was sixteen,i was

returning from work in Canning Vale, i took short cut through the Whaleback golf course.

in the bush off the 12th hole thought i would look for some golf balls like i had done so many times before.

saw a ball in clump of grass,bent down to pick it up and saw a orange and brown snake curled up like it was hibernating.

never went back there again.
BulldogPup
BulldogPup
6657 posts
6657 posts
22 Oct 2011 3:58pm
dinsdale said...

BulldogPup said...
My old fella's got a resident tiger (yellow-belly black) ...

Make up yer mind - they're 2 different species!


Ok No sweat mind made up - (edit) .... it was a black snake with a yellowy slash orange coloured underside .... how's that?
gibberjoe
gibberjoe
SA
956 posts
SA, 956 posts
23 Oct 2011 2:14am

that would be a ....yellow bellied black snake

it's brother would be a.....red bellied black snake......both nasties
Underoath
Underoath
QLD
2434 posts
QLD, 2434 posts
23 Oct 2011 1:58am
Dugites are coloured grey, green or brown.

The colours vary widely between individuals and are an unreliable means of identifying species.

The most distinguishing characteristic is the shape of the head, this is small compared to the neck, and grades imperceptibly into the body.

They can grow up to 2m long.
brady
brady
TAS
454 posts
TAS, 454 posts
23 Oct 2011 9:20am
dinsdale said...

brady said...
Dugites are brown snakes -although potentially nasty, about 70% have no venom administered

Dugites are a brown colour - they are NOT of the species "brown snake". The antivenene is different, so don't mix them up. Both varieties (with variants) are common in SW WA, including the King Browns.


Dugites and gwardars are western brown snakes. Pseudonajar spp. Yes, different species. Still a brown, still get brown snake antivenom - but more of it (controversial - the toxicologists are still arguing about the correct dose of antivenom)
gibberjoe
gibberjoe
SA
956 posts
SA, 956 posts
23 Oct 2011 10:04am

The best and official way of identing snakes is with a belly tail anal scale count

this is why when bitten the treaters do prefer to positively ident the culprit. There

are some multi use veniems.
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