So I read and watched the thread re: Planing hulls, those young uns on the bits of styrofoam from soft top boards..that led me to look at the other vid shorts by hydronamica about the paipo stand up surfboards (not to be confused with sup as no paddle used)..which then led me onto looking at mini simmons boards and then I found this link which is a company who make larger simmons

boards.www.hugedomains.com/domain_profile.cfm?d=masonsurfboards&e=com

There are prob many who shape them but this was the first one I came across. So now I'm thinking my custom I'll get later this year may well be a big bad boy simmons shape just purely cos I prefer the big rounded nose and width. There's just something about the shape I really like? Anyone know much about the paipo or simmons and any experiences surfing them?

How short can a board be before it no longer performs for the average surfer that weighs in around 90kg.Currently I ride a 5'10" Waverocket and love it. I have just had the oppurtunity of riding a 5'6"x22" Rake Mini Simmons and was surprised by its performance,very easy too surf and paddle.Would like too get another board and was wandering how small it could be.