Ah geeez. I'm in deep and getting deeper.

Started w/ SUP Foil and became addicted immediately. A few months ago I transitioned to prone foiling and have been obsessed w/ that- absolutely loving it. Now a friend is trying to talk me into getting a wind wing.

The thing is local wind conditions are typically pretty light. I'm 90Ks and if I'm gonna use the thing with any regularity I need to be able to use it in marginal 10-15kts. I have Axis foil gear- currently own a 900 &1000. My SUP board is 6' x 28 115L. I'm looking at the new Naish S25- 6.0. Hoping I can learn with that and the 1000 wing. Is that a reasonable expectation in light wind? Hoping so as the new Naish wing will blow my budget and... I don't really want to spend on a 1020 and there don't seem to be 1010s available anywhere.

I have a couple of friends that for wingfoiling only use the 1000 (despite having several other wings) even with light wind.
Here's a session with Tiago (WASP 4M and Axis 1000):

Tightlines is right, the 1020 is ideal. The 1000 will frustrate you in that light wind.

BTW, 4m is not light wind.

Thanks much all... great feedback. I am hearing the new Naish is way more powerful than last gen and super rigid- pumps well. Hopefully this is enough. Guess since there is at least a chance it could work- I'll give it a go with what I have and go from there.

The 900 & 100 are the the number one pick here for wingding . The 1020 is slow and blows out very quick but it is a good learning wing along with the 920 . The 100 on a 5m wing is all you'll need for lower winds around the 12knot range once you get some experience.

Thanks baldy- gonna give it a go if I can get my hands on a 6.0 s25

Hello guys
i am a new french Axis Foiler. Definitively ADDICT.
Does anyone try the 101 winging?
thanks

bigtone667 said..

RICObzh said..
Hello guys
i am a new french Axis Foiler. Definitively ADDICT.
Does anyone try the 101 winging?
thanks

I did about 25km on it today. I am 105kg, so I need a little bit more wind to get up on it compared to my 102. But the 101 is a super fun carving machine and is lot more fun than the 102.

Thanks bigtone.
What I wanted hearing
What King of rear are you using?

The 101 is great for winging.
Ive used it a few times on the 75cm mast with the 400 rear.
Highly recommend for light winds and bigger riders.
Very difficult to find in Oz at the moment.

hairybear01 said..
Anyone using the Naish S25 5.3m and axis 101?
Looking to learn wingding for small onshore waves and maybe downwind (or to go back upwind after downwind paddle run)
What's the top end of wind speed with this setup (for an average / new rider?)
Sounds like the low end would be around 10-12 knots
Does it work in small surf and windchop?
Any other feedback for new learner?

I am 105kg and I cannot get up on a 5m wing on a 101 (1400cm2) in 10/12 knots. I would probably be okay on a 102 (2000cm2) in 12 knots on a 5m wing.

I would need about 15 knots to starr. Once I am up on the 101, I can stay up in 10 to 12 knots.

The top end speed for me is about 14 knots on flat water.

hilly said..

Holoholo said..
Ah geeez. I'm in deep and getting deeper.

Started w/ SUP Foil and became addicted immediately. A few months ago I transitioned to prone foiling and have been obsessed w/ that- absolutely loving it. Now a friend is trying to talk me into getting a wind wing.

The thing is local wind conditions are typically pretty light. I'm 90Ks and if I'm gonna use the thing with any regularity I need to be able to use it in marginal 10-15kts. I have Axis foil gear- currently own a 900 &1000. My SUP board is 6' x 28 115L. I'm looking at the new Naish S25- 6.0. Hoping I can learn with that and the 1000 wing. Is that a reasonable expectation in light wind? Hoping so as the new Naish wing will blow my budget and... I don't really want to spend on a 1020 and there don't seem to be 1010s available anywhere.

A bigger front foil makes more difference than a bigger wing. It is working in water which is way thicker than air. I use a 2400 front foil and a 5m Wasp and can get going in 10 to 15 knots easy. Put my 1550 foil on and it is really hard work. I am 105kg. I prefer a smaller wing when riding swells as they are way easier to control. Just my opinion, you will have to form your own with experience.

Hey Hilly, do you think the 2400 is ok for wave riding with the wing or is it too big for that.

kobo said..

hilly said..

Holoholo said..
Ah geeez. I'm in deep and getting deeper.

Started w/ SUP Foil and became addicted immediately. A few months ago I transitioned to prone foiling and have been obsessed w/ that- absolutely loving it. Now a friend is trying to talk me into getting a wind wing.

The thing is local wind conditions are typically pretty light. I'm 90Ks and if I'm gonna use the thing with any regularity I need to be able to use it in marginal 10-15kts. I have Axis foil gear- currently own a 900 &1000. My SUP board is 6' x 28 115L. I'm looking at the new Naish S25- 6.0. Hoping I can learn with that and the 1000 wing. Is that a reasonable expectation in light wind? Hoping so as the new Naish wing will blow my budget and... I don't really want to spend on a 1020 and there don't seem to be 1010s available anywhere.

A bigger front foil makes more difference than a bigger wing. It is working in water which is way thicker than air. I use a 2400 front foil and a 5m Wasp and can get going in 10 to 15 knots easy. Put my 1550 foil on and it is really hard work. I am 105kg. I prefer a smaller wing when riding swells as they are way easier to control. Just my opinion, you will have to form your own with experience.

Hey Hilly, do you think the 2400 is ok for wave riding with the wing or is it too big for that.

It is ok with a small tail and +1 shim up to chest high. Gets a bit sketchy after that. I have done bigger, but soft rolling swells rather than steep walls. It gets you out in feck all wind though, which is why I use it. Best feeling cruising around in 12 knots gliding into swells. So quiet.

Holoholo said..
Ah geeez. I'm in deep and getting deeper.

Started w/ SUP Foil and became addicted immediately. A few months ago I transitioned to prone foiling and have been obsessed w/ that- absolutely loving it. Now a friend is trying to talk me into getting a wind wing.

The thing is local wind conditions are typically pretty light. I'm 90Ks and if I'm gonna use the thing with any regularity I need to be able to use it in marginal 10-15kts. I have Axis foil gear- currently own a 900 &1000. My SUP board is 6' x 28 115L. I'm looking at the new Naish S25- 6.0. Hoping I can learn with that and the 1000 wing. Is that a reasonable expectation in light wind? Hoping so as the new Naish wing will blow my budget and... I don't really want to spend on a 1020 and there don't seem to be 1010s available anywhere.

I in exactly same situation, you will need 1020 for early lift. The axis high aspect 900 and 1000 need so much speed to get up, great once up but I too at 95kg need at least 18knt to get up on 6m Naish. Once I get the hang of it I know I can get out in lighter but when learning you need more wind to learn positions of wing and board to get most out of wind. I have over 20 years kiting experience and that doesn't even help, it is hard to learn unfortunately but it's fun and worth it.

Alysum said..
Has anyone tried the new 910 for wing ? Thoughts ?

This guy has, at least from a pump foiling perspective and relative to the 1150.

scotty100 said..

Alysum said..
Has anyone tried the new 910 for wing ? Thoughts ?

Depends on your weight but 910 would need 20knots min to get going as has less lift than 900 and 1000

Interesting that it has less lift despite being part of the glide series!

78kg. Short fuse. 920/400 light wind. 1000HA/390 strong wind.