To a few wingers at Hillaries...there are a few of you that need reminding that you dont own the ocean. Leave the attitude in your car and just enjoy the sport without being cranky and immature, especially when a kiter decides to enjoy the same area as yourself. If you cant, I suggest you take up another sport. Either way, its doesnt bother me, ill still kite in the same ocean and enjoy it just as everyone else and as we should. 
Hi Scotty hope you are enjoying your trip over to WA from QLD to the flat weedy water of Hillaries.
Kiters tend to annoy others when they:
Use the whole beach to set up their lines across the only entrance to the beach.
Demand non-kiters launch or land their kite.
Sail with their kite low to the water using a 30m swath of ocean.
Sail slowly on their twin tip at a different angle to others.
Don't look before jumping.
Jump near others.
Land out of control.
And worst of all wear boardies over their wetsuit.
If you can avoid these and others I have missed you will have a better chance of meeting new friends on your trip. Enjoy.
Just replying to your reply Hilly and thanks for contributing. Unfortunately none of what you mentioned applies to this particular instance at Hillaries, but I understand your point. It feels like the Wingers there have turned into 'territorial sufers'. Its doesnt bother me that these guys want to act like this because at the end of the day, I'll still kite there wether they like it or not. If its too extreme for them, they should be playing golf.
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To a few wingers at Hillaries...
Are you talking Pinnaroo Point or South from there? From what I understand Joondalup City only allows kiteboarding at North Mullaloo and Pinnaroo Point. The area from Marmion Beach to Hillarys Dog Beach is off-limits for launching a kite. You can do a downwinder from further South but there is an exclusion zone around boat harbour.
Haha, first time I hear a teabagger complaing about wingers;-)
There are plenty of spots e.g. the pond where you can tangle your lines around other kiters. Maybe go there to stay with your kite buddys.
However there are plenty of spots north of perth where you can have the beach all for yourself. E.g. Cervantes Area or Dongara. Try this and enjoy.
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To a few wingers at Hillaries...there are a few of you that need reminding that you dont own the ocean. Leave the attitude in your car and just enjoy the sport without being cranky and immature, especially when a kiter decides to enjoy the same area as yourself. If you cant, I suggest you take up another sport. Either way, its doesnt bother me, ill still kite in the same ocean and enjoy it just as everyone else and as we should.
I can say as a long time 10+ year kiter, even without knowing anyone involved or knowing anything about the situation it is most definitely the Bloody twin tipper at fault. There really is something about the twin tip that makes people act like a dick. Even today I was launching out off woodies for some upwind downwind on the parawing and some numpty on a twin tip jumped right in front of me requiring me to take evasive manoeuvres. Not a good jump either, a long low jump with all downwind and bugger all height. Clearly showing poor edge control and pop.
Never really had any run ins with wingers, it's just not the nature of the sport. My local spot, woodmans point is very popular with twin tippers. I only ride through the area the twin tippers ride in for a brief few minutes as I head upwind but I've had multiple run ins there with twin tippers. It's like they want to show off how they can jump in front of a foiler not realising half the foilers were kiting better than them 10 years ago.
It was the beach south of Pinaroo point. Is this the beach you are referring too?
Kiters are BY FAR the worst water users. I'd rather be in a crowd of 10 wingers than anywhere near a kiter.
Scotty, I was the wingfoiler shouting at you to stop what you were doing at the wall on Sunday.
We had multiple wing foiling beginners in the water near the beach, and lots of other wing foilers in the water too.
And then you decided to show off to your two mates on the beach by attempting to jump amongst the wingers, what an idiotic thing to do!
I am not going to bore everybody on this thread by grading your jumping skills, but as a kite surfer of over 15 years that loved jumping high, I can confirm what other users in this thread have said, there are way better world class spots to practise your jumping skills at a short drive away.
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Scotty, I was the wingfoiler shouting at you to stop what you were doing at the wall on Sunday.
We had multiple wing foiling beginners in the water near the beach, and lots of other wing foilers in the water too.
And then you decided to show off to your two mates on the beach by attempting to jump amongst the wingers, what an idiotic thing to do!
I am not going to bore everybody on this thread by grading your jumping skills, but as a kite surfer of over 15 years that loved jumping high, I can confirm what other users in this thread have said, there are way better world class spots to practise your jumping skills at a short drive away.
Ha ha!! Bloody knew it!!
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Scotty, I was the wingfoiler shouting at you to stop what you were doing at the wall on Sunday.
We had multiple wing foiling beginners in the water near the beach, and lots of other wing foilers in the water too.
And then you decided to show off to your two mates on the beach by attempting to jump amongst the wingers, what an idiotic thing to do!
I am not going to bore everybody on this thread by grading your jumping skills, but as a kite surfer of over 15 years that loved jumping high, I can confirm what other users in this thread have said, there are way better world class spots to practise your jumping skills at a short drive away.
Perfect
Scotty, many people witnessed your reckless behaviour at Hillarys on Sunday, with a few attempting to alert you to the dangerous and illegal nature of your conduct.
Your self-confessed "extreme" manoeuvres in close proximity to other water users are not only disrespectful of other people's safety, they can enable the WA Water Police to charge you with reckless vessel operation under the WA Marine Act and 2023 Amendment Bill. Recklessly endangering the public is considered a serious offence.
Our community of ocean lovers are generally reluctant to report such matters to the WA Water Police given more complaints results in more restrictive legislation, which impacts the many thousands of us who do the right thing. By persisting with your reckless behaviour, you are creating a problem not only for the locals you apparently seek to antagonise, however potentially everyone who enjoys wind powered water sports on our beautiful coast.
In the interest of everyone enjoying the ocean safely, please familiarise yourself with the laws, customs and designated kiteboarding zones here in WA, such as the one several hundred meters to the north at Pinnaroo Point within plain sight of where you were kiteboarding on Sunday.
Lets get this straight now! Im a pretty chilled layed-back guy and enjoy kiting and winging, foiling and whatever comes next. But you wingers were the ones who ruine it for others. Ive seen an increase over the years of a 'surfer like' attitude out here in the water. You dont own the ocean and I was there enjoying the wind just like you. I also know that I did not jump anywhere near any wingers that would cause concern. If you think otherwise, well thats your own personal view. Everytime I go kiting, im always there for others, give way, give a thumbs up, help retrieve others boards, the list goes on, and ive been dping this since 1999. Perhaps some of these traits could be incorporated into your sessions, rather acting as you did on the day. Ive got nothing else to say regarding this matter anymore, buts its interesting to read your perspectives. I hope things improve!!!!
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Lets get this straight now! Im a pretty chilled layed-back guy and enjoy kiting and winging, foiling and whatever comes next. But you wingers were the ones who ruine it for others. Ive seen an increase over the years of a 'surfer like' attitude out here in the water. You dont own the ocean and I was there enjoying the wind just like you. I also know that I did not jump anywhere near any wingers that would cause concern. If you think otherwise, well thats your own personal view. Everytime I go kiting, im always there for others, give way, give a thumbs up, help retrieve others boards, the list goes on, and ive been dping this since 1999. Perhaps some of these traits could be incorporated into your sessions, rather acting as you did on the day. Ive got nothing else to say regarding this matter anymore, buts its interesting to read your perspectives. I hope things improve!!!! That is hilarious. The orange moron of the ocean.
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Guy's gotta be trolling... surely nobody is this much of a prick.
Apologies for my strong wording. No excuses. Sorry. 
Select to expand quotezarb said..
Guy's gotta be trolling... surely nobody is this much of a prick.
Have you MET kiters?
