I'm currently using a 10 year old pair of Rip-Curl surf shoes. They're about to fall apart and it's time for an upgrade.
I was wondering if anyone has used Vibram Five Fingers and if they could share their experiences and pros/cons of them.
Also would be happy to hear about surf shoes that other people are using that they like.
Cheers.
I tried Five Fingers. I hated them. Apart from anything else, in a shore break you get sand and shell grit inside and it gets between your toes and the sides of the shoes. It's uncomfortable and can be very painful.
The soles on the Five Fingers I had were really stiff so not something that works well on a board.
I'm pretty happy with any standard surf boot. 1.5mm reef boots for warmer weather, and anything up to 5mm for winter. They have to fits properly. Stiffer boots can be worn standard size. Soft stretchy shoes need to be one or two sizes smaller. Stretched ones feel like you're wearing wet baggy socks.
Thanks for your reply Gorgo. This is exactly the kind of feedback I was hoping to get. All excellent points!
I went for a foil today and stepping through the very small shore break filled my shoes with pebbles and shell. I had to empty my shoes out after my first failed gybe. Could only imagine it would be much worse with the Five Fingers.
I might go look at some surf shops next time there's no wind and I can be bothered dealing with the crowds.
I ride with my 5fingers in some areas of a lagoon that have very sharp oyster shells. I have no problem with them, I have actually worn them for about 12 years for other water sports things too. I always make sure I have a a pair. I always take a pair on any surf trip. I like that it feels like I am barefoot. I have been to a few areas in Africa where I wore them for surfing because it was sketchy what was under water.
Now that being said. Yes you can get sand in them. You also really need to try them on to get the right fit. I usually buy mine tight because they do seem to stretch slightly. I tried a winter pair years ago that were 2 or 3 mm neoprene and hated them. I only use them for warmer water. It looks like they came out with a par that has higher boot like bootie feel so that may keep the sand out better. I have not tried them so cant say.
us.vibram.com/shop/shop-all-products/mens-fivefingers/watersports/v-neop-mens-M96.html?dwvar_M96_color=Black%20%2F%20White#start=1
Another boot you may want to look at would be the solite boot. I hate the isolated big toe feel in these and cut out the separator piece. The pocket for the big toe was way too tight. But the sole on them is pretty solid.
soliteboots.com/collections/warm-water-boots
Ok, well that's some pretty decent feedback for the Five Fingers. Especially concerning the right fit.
The soliteboots look really interesting. The Rip-Curl shoes I currently use have an isolated big toe which I don't really like. It feels like a sore thumb just sticking out.
Thanks for your advice and taking the time to post.
Not sure if the experience transfers for wingfoiling but I always use my 5fingers for windsurfing, best barefoot replacement. I tried split toe superfreak o'neil, and other booties, and they didn't work for me.
u.vibram.com/en/shop/fivefingers/men/kso-mens/M14.html?dwvar_M14_color=Black%20%2F%20Black#start=1
They require a little bit of practice, though, to put them on and you look really funny when you wear them
I am on my second pair. First one had neoprene liner and lasted very long, but now they don't make neoprene ones without groovy soles. In current ones KSO lining is thinner. I like them better for flexibility but probably will wear out sooner.
Hope it helps
Definitely helps!
Thanks for posting the link and for your feedback on the shoes.
Looks like I'll just have to go and try a bunch of different shoes and see what I like.
I have few Vibram pairs and I like those just fine but not for winging usage. I had one older model that was specifically for water and the grip and reef protection was great but as mentioned previously, send etc was a big issue and so was the loss of haptic.
I recently got the Solite 5mm and I was impressed by the direct sense of the deck. Better than my 2mm booties and the fit, with the mold process, is next level.
I now regret not getting the Solite 2mm Reef booties when I purchased the 5mm. I could have use it right now.
I wear FiveFingers for kiteboarding because the beach I usually kite is not the nicest and always has sharp rocks, shells, glass and other litter. Thankfully, I haven't stepped on a nail to test their limits but I haven't had an issue yet walking against the power of a kite on a dirty beach.
I usually ride strapless for kite foiling and kite surfing. I'll keep them on if I use my twin-tip and just open the foot straps a bit..
They've held up for 100+ sessions but the edges of the sole separated from the shoe after about 50 sessions. Not completely though and I just use a bit of shoe-goo to glue it back down and it holds for another 10 or 15 sessions.
I sewed a loop on the heels and attached a makeshift leash made from some spare 3mm dyneema so they stay attached if they get blown off my feet after a big crash or tumble in the surf.
I use the EL-X model which are not water-specific but has the thinnest sole and provides ample sensitivity and feel. Grip feels pretty natural and I can move about the board easily for tacks and jibes.
They have been great and I highly recommend them but they are spendy at retail. However, when they (rarely) go on sale they are usually USD$50-70 which I think is well worth it.
Caveat: It looks like they may have changed the construction this year so I'm not sure how the new ones are.
5-fingers in sand area were not good due to sand as mentioned earlier. Cannot recommend solite. Felt great after fitting process but broke quickly. My big toe poked through. Got the impression that the squeezing into straps creates too much stress and makes the material fail after a while. If you foil strapless they should last and be quite comfortable.
I have a pair of Solite Reefs, Solite Custom Pros 2.0 3mm and Patagonia R4 (5mm)
I bought the Reefs at the beginning of the autumn, so I didn't use them much before the water temps dropped. The advice about sizing was all over the place, depending on where you read. True to size, size below etc... I bought one size below and despite remoulding them 3 times I find them sore around the toes. They feel great when they are still warm and moulding. I keep them on for ages as they cool down, but by the next morning they feel too tight. I bought the 2021 model at a discount since I could not find the 2022 in the size I wanted, so the big toe separator is bigger than on the latest models. The large big toe separator adds to the discomfort factor and causes chaffing for me.
I then bought the 3mm Custom Pros 2.0 at my actual size and they are brilliant. I've been using them nearly every day since the end of September, except for the 10, or so, sessions when the air temperature was below or near freezing and that's when I reach for the 5mm Patagonias. Water temps stay at around 9-10 C in the winter.
I use the Solite 3mm booties with the thin supplied socks, which make the boots more comfortable and also make putting on and taking off a wetsuit and booties a breeze. I mostly sup surf and I occasionally wing foil, but always without straps. Board feel is great. They are holding up well so far, but the grippy material on the soles is starting to become smooth in two different places (heel and towards the front by the transverse arch) on both boots. They still provide ample grip though.
... I bought one size below and despite remoulding them 3 times I find them sore around the toes. They feel great when they are still warm and moulding. I keep them on for ages as they cool down, but by the next morning they feel too tight.
I had the same experience, however, on the second go I moulded the booties with two sets of thick neoprene socks on and the fit is now perfect. Even with the included socks which I always put on .
Solite Custom Reef 2mm best ever, heat molded to your foot shape, super comfortable and stop those nasties from pricking your sole of the foot., also when kicking the foil as well.I use these all year round in the Med, but they do boots as well with a different thickness ??
... I bought one size below and despite remoulding them 3 times I find them sore around the toes. They feel great when they are still warm and moulding. I keep them on for ages as they cool down, but by the next morning they feel too tight.
I had the same experience, however, on the second go I moulded the booties with two sets of thick neoprene socks on and the fit is now perfect. Even with the included socks which I always put on .
Oooh. Great idea. Thanks for that. I do have some neoprene socks, so I am going to try this when spring comes. I love those included thin socks and also always use them. They make putting on and taking off a wetsuit super easy.
Currently I am living in my 3mm Solite Custom Pros and 5mm Patagonias. The feel is better in the Solites vs the Patagonias (so it should be since it's 3mm vs 5mm) but, for some bizarre reason the Solite boots offer more protection on the sole against rocks, sharp shells etc etc, yet still offer better board feel. Maybe it's the split toe effect? The Patagonias are round toe.