Hey peeps,
I've been foiling for somewhere between 4 and 5 years. Wing dinging, kitefoil racing, jumping and downwinding. I predominantly foil downwind in open ocean along the windy Perth, Western Australian coast. One of the best downwind locations in the world.
Today we had 20+ knots of wind and good solid wind chop. I am used to riding Moses and SABFoil and have downwinded W1100, W1000, W1110, W1350-L and now the W1150-L. I have ridden the W1110 since it was released and it has been amazing. This has been my go to performance DW wing.
I weigh 100kg in a wet wetsuit and mostly use a Duotone 4.5 SLS Slick and SIC 5' Raptor 80litre board.
I ride the SABFoil Kraken 83 mast, 399 tail and 753 fuse. Today I took the 1150-L (L is for Leviathan) for its maiden run. I have been waiting impatiently for this front wing since I first heard about it.
The 1150-L and W1110 are both great at downwinding, and share some characteristics, but are quite different in other aspects.
The W1110 is fast, incredibly fast in fact, and fairly nimble. It carves nicely and is smooth and easy to ride with a nice easy take off so long as you have enough wind. It pops up on the wing easily and rises predictably. It's probably got way more top speed than you'll ever need for downwinding and I've never breached from excessive speed. I find at 100kg it just doesn't carry the glide or pump well enough to connect some of the runners. To be fair, it's a race wing and not necessarily made for 100kg guys downwinding. Maybe if I was 20 kg lighter?
The W1150-L is designated as Pump and Downwind, being high lift, low drag was going to hopefully fill the gaps between the W1110 and the crazy glide of the W1350-L, but with better carving and easier pump. The 1150-L took me by surprise on take off as the board began rising at a very high angle of attack at preplaning speed but wouldn't stall and drop. I fell a couple of times whilst I learned to keep it very level until foiling speed which incidentally is insanely low, then a single pump of the back foot and a counter from the front to level off and I was away. Initially it was a tough takeoff, but once figured out, it's very easy. I just wasn't prepared for the lack of stall and the lift.
The glide was effortless and required no more front foot pressure at high speed than low speed flight. It took a few minutes to get used to the carve and turning but it banked beautifully and carried its speed through the turn and accelerated nicely into deep troughs. The speed carried me through several waves and the pumping added to the continued linking of waves.
to be fair, I only started to really get the most out of the foil 2/3 of the way through the run and cranked it back up on the wind to extend the run. Powered riding is easy and intuitive, great upwind angle and fun. The one factor I didn't expect was the lack of fatigue. I seriously over estimated the fatigue and chose a 16km run accordingly. I could have easily done another 10km.
The 1150-L was absolutely everything I had been hoping for. Easy to pump, fast, agile and so much fun. Top speed today was almost 30km/h and I rode better than I had ever ridden with less falls, longer, faster glides with more links and with less effort.
Well done Mr Mazzanti, this is surely the best wing for me to date ??????
DM 
Thanks for your review, makes me want to buy one :-).
I'm mostly riding a w945 (for wing foiling). Would you consider the WL1150 a good addition for wing foiling (in lighter winds)?
What are you're thoughts about the difference between the WL 1150 and W945 (if you have any)?
Hi FP,
The 945 is a really nice wing and in my opinion one of the best all rounders, fast, forgiving, playful and easy. In the lineup of SABFoil wings, the answer to you're question really relies on your body weight. If you are a lighter rider <85kg, I'd say absolutely, the 1150-L would be awesome. A great combination of speed, low drag, lift and carve.
if you are heavier than say 90kg, for light wind the W1100 is a great choice, still playful, easy to use and great glide. It also probably depends on what you call light winds. The W1250 is the biggest wing with the best load bearing, along with the 1350-L but you are really venturing into the world of specialized wings at this end of the spectrum.
I would certainly consider the 1150-L for light winds, but again depending upon more detail.
style of riding
weight
board
water conditions
DM
Hello,
I would assume that the 1150L has less glide and speed than the 945, maybe halfway between the 945 and 1100 ?
What about the 950L, since you seem to have it as well. How does it compare to the 945 ?
Select to expand quoteActionSportsWA said..
Hi FP,
The 945 is a really nice wing and in my opinion one of the best all rounders, fast, forgiving, playful and easy. In the lineup of SABFoil wings, the answer to you're question really relies on your body weight. If you are a lighter rider <85kg, I'd say absolutely, the 1150-L would be awesome. A great combination of speed, low drag, lift and carve.
if you are heavier than say 90kg, for light wind the W1100 is a great choice, still playful, easy to use and great glide. It also probably depends on what you call light winds. The W1250 is the biggest wing with the best load bearing, along with the 1350-L but you are really venturing into the world of specialized wings at this end of the spectrum.
I would certainly consider the 1150-L for light winds, but again depending upon more detail.
style of riding
weight
board
water conditions
DM
How does the 1150-L compare to the 999?
I have a 945 (adore it) and 999. The 999 does well for the light winds but for marginal winds it's perhaps not easy to get going (with my level of pumping skills) My weight is 73kg.
Thanks!
Thanks for your reply, actionsportsWA.
I'm of average weight by your standards (thanks for that :-)). Around 85kgs, but we have to suit up around here.
I was thinking about replacing my w1250 with the WL1150.
@Piomax. The WL1150 has a higher Aspect ratio. All things equal that means more glide, but more effort to turn. The foil profile and planshape of the WL1150 is pretty different from the W1100, from what I can see in the pictures. My guess is that you can breach wingtips on the WL1150 whereas on the W1100 a breach is hard(er) to recover.
The WL950 is a bit of a mystery to me. But time will tell what it's use case will be ;-).
Hi Darren. Is the WL1150 compatible with the original Moses surf fuse - the M6 version? I have a set of the conical washers for my W950.
@DukeSilver:
From what I've seen and read, the mounting on the fuselage has only been beefed up to m8 but the holes remained in the same position and the fit on the fuselag is the same. Sabfoil did beef up to m8 for a reason, but better coping with freestyle tricks/jumping and wider wingspans were part of the equation.
My bet is that it would be compatible with the f710 and f710 Alu, the F700HS and F899HS and the Kraken surffuselages.
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@DukeSilver:
From what I've seen and read, the mounting on the fuselage has only been beefed up to m8 but the holes remained in the same position and the fit on the fuselag is the same. Sabfoil did beef up to m8 for a reason, but better coping with freestyle tricks/jumping and wider wingspans were part of the equation.
My bet is that it would be compatible with the f710 and f710 Alu, the F700HS and F899HS and the Kraken surffuselages.
Great, thanks for the reply Darren.
Any chance you could post a photo of the foils so we can see the camber in the foil. I'm also currently on the search for a pump foil and super light wind wing foil.
Select to expand quotePoimax05 said..
Hello,
I would assume that the 1150L has less glide and speed than the 945, maybe halfway between the 945 and 1100 ?
What about the 950L, since you seem to have it as well. How does it compare to the 945 ?
Also interested in 950L information, vastly different then the other leviathan wings which make it a bit confusing.
Select to expand quotePoimax05 said..
Hello,
I would assume that the 1150L has less glide and speed than the 945, maybe halfway between the 945 and 1100 ?
What about the 950L, since you seem to have it as well. How does it compare to the 945 ?
Hi Poimax,
The 1150-L has more glide and slightly less speed to the W945, but trust me, it is quick and it's glide is amazing. 945 is a bit more nimble and a bit more slippery. The 1150-L and W1100 don't share much in common tbh, despite their numbers being similar they are worlds apart in terms of efficiency and performance.
I'll copy and paste a reply to a question on the SABFoil/Moses Hydrofoil riders on FB.
"I have had about 40 minutes riding the 950-L in waves. I weigh about 100kg wet. The 950-L certainly feels different to the larger Levianthans.
My thoughts are very close to Kobus Oosthuizen thoughts. It definitely feels slower than the 1150-L but I wasn't pushing it for speed and I didn't downwind it. For a lightweight rider ( I'm sure it will downwind well in small to medium sized waves and maybe even in bigger/stronger conditions. It certainly turns well and is easy to ride and does indeed have a very, very, low stall speed.
I think as a light rider the W1110 may be better for wilder conditions giving almost unlimited top speed.
In all honesty, for my weight, I'm not sure if I would find a use for it. The W1110 and 1150-L are so awesome for downwinding and even just cranking upwind. I didn't love the 950-L but I think this could have more than just a little bit to do with my weight. I'd like to hear a lighter riders impression."
DM
Select to expand quoteMProject04 said..ActionSportsWA said..
Hi FP,
The 945 is a really nice wing and in my opinion one of the best all rounders, fast, forgiving, playful and easy. In the lineup of SABFoil wings, the answer to you're question really relies on your body weight. If you are a lighter rider <85kg, I'd say absolutely, the 1150-L would be awesome. A great combination of speed, low drag, lift and carve.
if you are heavier than say 90kg, for light wind the W1100 is a great choice, still playful, easy to use and great glide. It also probably depends on what you call light winds. The W1250 is the biggest wing with the best load bearing, along with the 1350-L but you are really venturing into the world of specialized wings at this end of the spectrum.
I would certainly consider the 1150-L for light winds, but again depending upon more detail.
style of riding
weight
board
water conditions
DM
How does the 1150-L compare to the 999?
I have a 945 (adore it) and 999. The 999 does well for the light winds but for marginal winds it's perhaps not easy to get going (with my level of pumping skills) My weight is 73kg.
Thanks!
Hey MProject,
To be honest, I haven't ridden the W999. I've ridden the W799 and it isn't really my cup of tea. I know they are probably miles apart in terms of performance, but I need speed in my wings. I like the 1150-L due to its top speed and glide, so for me, I don't really need to ride a big draggy wing for light wind when I can get away with the 1150-L.
DM
Select to expand quoteFlyingPeew said..
Thanks for your reply, actionsportsWA.
I'm of average weight by your standards (thanks for that :-)). Around 85kgs, but we have to suit up around here.
I was thinking about replacing my w1250 with the WL1150.
@Piomax. The WL1150 has a higher Aspect ratio. All things equal that means more glide, but more effort to turn. The foil profile and planshape of the WL1150 is pretty different from the W1100, from what I can see in the pictures. My guess is that you can breach wingtips on the WL1150 whereas on the W1100 a breach is hard(er) to recover.
The WL950 is a bit of a mystery to me. But time will tell what it's use case will be ;-).
Hi FlyingPeew,
I think the 1150-L could replace the 1250. Certainly less drag, easier start as the 1150-L pops up onto the foil with as little as a single pump. It's going to turn better and be faster. Drop in to your local SABFoil dealer and ask for a demo. I'd take that bet though 
DM
Select to expand quoteShlogger said..
Any chance you could post a photo of the foils so we can see the camber in the foil. I'm also currently on the search for a pump foil and super light wind wing foil.
Hi Shlogger,
I don't really know how to photo camber without cutting it in half, but I'll pop a couple of photos below for you. I think the 1150-L could be your mark, but that would depend on what you call super light wind and also I don't know your weight.
DM
PS thank you to everyone for your questions and faith in my review. I still, as always, recommend demoing if at all possible because you should never buy something from someone you have never met or don't know well.
Select to expand quoteActionSportsWA said..Shlogger said..
Any chance you could post a photo of the foils so we can see the camber in the foil. I'm also currently on the search for a pump foil and super light wind wing foil.
Hi Shlogger,
I don't really know how to photo camber without cutting it in half, but I'll pop a couple of photos below for you. I think the 1150-L could be your mark, but that would depend on what you call super light wind and also I don't know your weight.
DM
PS thank you to everyone for your questions and faith in my review. I still, as always, recommend demoing if at all possible because you should never buy something from someone you have never met or don't know well.
A photo on the side would be good to show the curvature underneath the foil. That part is supper important. I think i took one a while back, let me find it. This bottom grove will give a srong idea on the speed it handles: more curvature is going to sit well at low speeds, less or no curvature are better at higher speeds. If we have a look at the 940 for example, there is zero curvature.. looks more like a simetrical camber
Select to expand quoteShlogger said..
Any chance you could post a photo of the foils so we can see the camber in the foil. I'm also currently on the search for a pump foil and super light wind wing foil.
here is a 1350, 1110 and 940 bottom curve comparison, the 1350 and probably all Leviathans will have the same: extreme low end light wind tiny bump session saver
