Title says it all. Anybody winged more than one of these and care to offer up comparisons? Im on the 1095 and it's excellent for some things (pump, glide and turning for such a wide span, beaches well) but I have issues with loose connections (specifically wing to fuse) and sometimes feel like it's oddly challenging to tack vs more mid aspect wings.

Im on a Cedrus mast and already have a h800 but I'm still figuring that wing out. I already know the Cabrinha connections are far superior to the 1095 though. Im curious whether there are options to replace my 1095, solving the connections without sacrificing what I like about the foil.

I use the 1095 from 12-30 knots. Lots of jumping, down winding and surfing smaller waves. It is my all around foil, supplemented by the 1440 for light wind.


or maybe I should stick with the 1095 and keep jerry rigging/ taping/ shimming the connections.

The eagle is a monobloc fuselage / wing connection, meaning there's no movement there. I have only tried the 890, and its a very nice wing, very stiff, and amazing glide. My reference wing is the 940 Phantom S, no experience with the kujira or H1000.

Or even better, get one from Jim Stringfellow. No adapters etc and the thing is as sollid as it gets.

Grantmac said..
Notice that new Takuma fuselage uses an expanding front end like Starboard pioneered +2 years ago.

They seem to have stuck with the same mast and connection though which is disappointing.

No, actually that new Fuselage is only available right now on the new Alloy HD system(new mast cross section) or new Carbon which is totally different as well.

gorgesailor said..

Grantmac said..
Notice that new Takuma fuselage uses an expanding front end like Starboard pioneered +2 years ago.

They seem to have stuck with the same mast and connection though which is disappointing.

No, actually that new Fuselage is only available right now on the new Alloy HD system(new mast cross section) or new Carbon which is totally different as well.

do you mean that you can't use the aluminium mast with the new fuselage?

Frankieboy said..

gorgesailor said..

Grantmac said..
Notice that new Takuma fuselage uses an expanding front end like Starboard pioneered +2 years ago.

They seem to have stuck with the same mast and connection though which is disappointing.

No, actually that new Fuselage is only available right now on the new Alloy HD system(new mast cross section) or new Carbon which is totally different as well.

do you mean that you can't use the aluminium mast with the new fuselage?

Just asked Takuma, the new fuselage is compatible with alu mast. Good news.

Camarillo said..

Just asked Takuma, the new fuselage is compatible with alu mast. Good news.

Not with the old alu mast, you have to geta new alu mast (and baseplate)

The idea is adding a Takuma adapter from Cedrus to accomodate the new HD fuze on my Cedrus mast

OK so you're comparing 3 totally different wings,
The Eagle has a higher aspect ratio than the kujira and cabrinha.
I own the 1095 and tried the Eagle 990 (own the Eagle 890), plus own the Sabfoil w1000 and Axis ART
999. All are completely different wings so you need to be specific with what you're looking for from a foil at that span. Carve? Speed? Glide? Pump? Stiffness? Modularity? Price point?
The 1095 is rather big/fragile to jump with but I can't think of a better foil to downwind with.

The Kujira is definitely the king of carving out of the lot, it's not designed for speed where the others will perform better at higher speeds especially the Eagle.
Personally I use the Kujira 980 more over the 1095 as it turns way better and has a wider conditions range of use
And yes the new takuma fuse will solve the play in the fuselage. I currently put rail tape on my fuse to reduce play.

Be cautious with the Takuma cedrus adaptors. The 2021 takuma cedrus adaptor is different to the 2020 adaptor. I had to exchange mine. No doubt Kyle will make one for the new m8 fuse which isn't out yet (they are all still on a ship).

Someone did an instagram tutorial on how he put a filler inside his takuma front wings to make it a snug fit with the fuse but you wouldn't want to do that with the new fuse coming.

Alysum said..
OK so you're comparing 3 totally different wings,
The Eagle has a higher aspect ratio than the kujira and cabrinha.
I own the 1095 and tried the Eagle 990 (own the Eagle 890), plus own the Sabfoil w1000 and Axis ART
999. All are completely different wings so you need to be specific with what you're looking for from a foil at that span. Carve? Speed? Glide? Pump? Stiffness? Modularity? Price point?
The 1095 is rather big/fragile to jump with but I can't think of a better foil to downwind with.

The Kujira is definitely the king of carving out of the lot, it's not designed for speed where the others will perform better at higher speeds especially the Eagle.
Personally I use the Kujira 980 more over the 1095 as it turns way better and has a wider conditions range of use
And yes the new takuma fuse will solve the play in the fuselage. I currently put rail tape on my fuse to reduce play.

Be cautious with the Takuma cedrus adaptors. The 2021 takuma cedrus adaptor is different to the 2020 adaptor. I had to exchange mine. No doubt Kyle will make one for the new m8 fuse which isn't out yet (they are all still on a ship).

Someone did an instagram tutorial on how he put a filler inside his takuma front wings to make it a snug fit with the fuse but you wouldn't want to do that with the new fuse coming.

Ok - this is helpful. I've heard from others too that the Eagle 990 is a better comparison to the 1095. You say that the Kujira is better for glide and carve - where is the Eagle better?

I want a beefier wing without sacrificing too much glide and carve vs the Kujira.

I sheered the bolts for the front wing using the stringy fuse - and no they weren't corroded at all.

I stripped one of the stabilizer threads on my "stringy" fuselage after about 10 sessions. Replacing it with a "helicoil" type of repair worked well, but the Cedrus mast has helicoils from the factory, so it would be nice the if Jim's fuselages would have them as well as it's a lot stronger than the M6 thread on raw aluminum.

There will be other fuselage options too.

Frankieboy said..
do you guys think you can shim the mast / fuse to compensate the <90? they build at Takuma? O will be too fragile?
I would prefer this rather then shimming the board/mast

Putting a shim on the fuse puts more stress on the screws as it forces an angle on those critical screws.

Much safer to put a plate shim as the screws can afford an angle better with the track bolts. I use a 0.8deg plate shim.

great info

thanks !

I have only ridden the ART series but I would recommend you shelve all your wings and just ride the cabrinha 800. I find that is the sweet spot for AR 9+ wings and bigger than 90cm width turning is hard as posters are mentioning. You have to commit a few hundred miles though to wire your brain without falling back on your easier foils.

I would also be very interested in some comparisons of eagle vs cabrinha h series.