I m looking to replace my 160l inflatable gong board with a rigid board. My budget is very limited so looking at 2nd hand options.
I m 100kg (220lb)?and 6.4 and can foil both side and nearly jibing
I have the option to buy the 110l appleslice v1 for a very attractive price but this is now a 4 year old board. Is it still considered a good board and will the liters be enough for my weight?
Ive had the v1, v2 and v3 Appleslice. The v1 is a kind of a weird board. It will probably work fine, and will absolutely be a big upgrade from your inflatable board but I wouldn't call it a "modern design" in today's terms. Quite wide, old school tail design, and truncated length vs more modern options, which are built with a lot more efficiency. The v2 is still a modern and relevant design and the improvement from the v2 to v3 is much smaller than the v1 to v2, which are totally different from one another.
v1 board has more of a skipping takeoff from the water due to the flatter hull and limited length. v2 and v3 build much more speed before takeoff.
I suppose it all comes down to how much it costs and what else is available to you. Yes it will be an upgrade, but is it the best option? Hard to say.
Yes that s exactly my concern if it was a v2 probably a no brainer.
The other option I have is a fone asc rocket 2022 which is 110l
Both are old school "bar of soap" style boards. If those were the only two options available I'd take the Appletree primarily due to the construction. A four or five year old board has probably taken some dings and you can rest easy with the closed cell foam and track construction on the Appletree. Design-wise they are fairly similar.
If its cheap and gets you on the water stoked then go for it. It won't be anything cutting edge, but it will be a material improvement from what you are on.
Ive got to imagine those boards are very inexpensive based on the second hand market that I see.
Both boards are fine. I regularly ride a 110L ASC F-One board at the wing school I teach at and its a fine board. Little big in my opinion and no straps is a miss, but fine for progression so definately a step up. The appletree is probably fine too, a little shorter so probably less glide, I always found the F-One board very easy to get up. Regarding the appletree, construction is a +, probably lighter than the F-One, although not necessarily more ding resistant. I own an Appletree Jazz, and while I like the construction and stiff feel, I dont really like the shape. Slow to plane, and the angle of attack feels all wrong without adjusting the foil rake (which brings other negative effects like additional slower planing). In my opinion there should be an incline between the deck and bottom angle (slightly raised frontfoot), and the Appletree designer doesnt share that opinion and goes for 100% parallel deck and bottom. You have to like that feel, I do not. Also depends on what foils you ride, F-One generally pairs well with everything.
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Both boards are fine. I regularly ride a 110L ASC F-One board at the wing school I teach at and its a fine board. Little big in my opinion and no straps is a miss, but fine for progression so definately a step up. The appletree is probably fine too, a little shorter so probably less glide, I always found the F-One board very easy to get up. Regarding the appletree, construction is a +, probably lighter than the F-One, although not necessarily more ding resistant. I own an Appletree Jazz, and while I like the construction and stiff feel, I dont really like the shape. Slow to plane, and the angle of attack feels all wrong without adjusting the foil rake (which brings other negative effects like additional slower planing). In my opinion there should be an incline between the deck and bottom angle (slightly raised frontfoot), and the Appletree designer doesnt share that opinion and goes for 100% parallel deck and bottom. You have to like that feel, I do not. Also depends on what foils you ride, F-One generally pairs well with everything.
Agree that the skin on the Appletrees isn't really ding resistant, but if you do get dings you don't have to worry about them absorbing water like you do on the F-One. Any 4 or 5 year old board has probably gotten a ding somewhere, so this would give me some peace of mind. The tracks on the Appletree are bombproof though, so it really shouldn't have any softening there like you might see on older boards from other manufacturers. Jazz is a pretty sluggish shape in general. I haven't ever had any issues with deck angle on the Appletrees personally, but F-One foils are made to be ridden with the rake on F-One boards, so thats probably what you are feeling.
