My favorite foil is ART 999. It has an absolutely crazy range and it is a joy to ride in our conditions. We get 13 to 17 knots here most of the time. I am looking for an ART PRO that would be similar to ART 899/799 in 15-17 knots.
Guys, if you have been riding ARTs and PROs, can you say which PRO would be the best equivalent for 899/799 (899 of course being too close to 999) - 1051 or 1001.
Or perhaps, if you have ridden PROs, could you assign workable / ideal wind ranges to 1051, 1001 and 951?
I am 75 kg.
All I can speak for is the 1051. I would say it is equally as loose as the 899 but more predictable, intuitive, better glide, insanely breachable and not as twitchy. Different tails on this one change things up dramatically. I run a 359/40 skinny when powered (winging) and a KD Marlin when its light. I go back and forth between the Crazy short normal and the silly short advance fuses. Kinda digging the Crazy Short(longer) lately with the 40 skinny. The Art pros are everything I wanted the Art's to be. I should probably get a 1001.....
wind range- 12-40?mph on my long skinny board
timely post. 999 was my everyday foil with 1099 when it was very light or small waves. 899 was specialty foil for really fast and steep wave conditions.
I'm 95kgI bought the 1201 first, and its amazing. turns better than the 1099 but pumps amazing
Then I bought the 1051, assuming it would be like the 999. Its IS NOT. much more like the 899 in terms of low end. It needs SPEED for someone my weight. Super fun and looser than the 899, pumps great IF you keep your speed way up - no forgiveness at all if you lose speed. I'm sure lighter people will find differently.
In my opinion, you want the 1121. I have that now as my everyday foil and it matches up very well with the 999. Probably a little more maneuverable, but very similar in low end lift and pumping, a bit better glide.
Don't be afraid of the 1121. I expect the 1051 to be too small if you're used to the 999.
Had the 999 and 899. Weigh 75kg. Mainly rode the 899 with a 5.5.
Bought a 1001 and a 362 skinny on ultra short.
Sold 999 and 899.
1001 is harder to get on foil than the 899. Board has to be plaining, 4 more pumps than the 899..
Once on foil its fast and efficient. Gets through lulls as well as the 999. Goes faster than the 899. Turns great but not snappy. Very easy foil to use much easier and balanced than the 899/999. Handles messy choppy conditions very well. Surfs bumps unbelievably well. Its speed and efficiency allows you to use a larger sail in stronger winds. Now use 5.5 up to 20 knots before switching down to 4m. Only negative is getting on foil.
Dont think i need another foil.
Hi guys!
Bit off topic but I hope it's OK. Bought the 1201 to replace 1050 and it's great in terms of glide and speed. But somehow I feel not really getting warm with it. I guess it's the span!? Sometimes it' feels wobbly and unstable in some way. I am 95kg and use it with advanced crazy and biggest skinny and power carbon 82. Some how I miss my 1050. It felt more direct (don't know how to describe it). Same time I bought the 999 and I love it. It's crazy. Before I got the 930. Any ideas or thoughts about that? Thanks
Mast position can make a big difference. I have the ART pros 951 and 1051, no wobbles and almost as stable as my SFs
Here is a very short review. Yesterday, in under 10kn breeze, I back to back foiled the SF 1030 with 300p and ART pro 1051 with 360 skinny for comparison.
Both got up on the foil with some pumping about the same. The SF is slightly more forgiving jybing .
SF top speed 25.1 kph and ART pro 1051 30.7kph. Me old and 74kg.
Both foils are worth having for light wind, but the pro is just a bit more fun.
OK. Thought about that too and will test it. But I got the ak phazer and the track box isn't that long. Thanx so far.
Select to expand quoteDriks said..
OK. Thought about that too and will test it. But I got the ak phazer and the track box isn't that long. Thanx so far.
I am riding the Sf840 and SfF1030 with the advanced (40mm)ultra short fuse and the Ak phazer 78l V2. I mount the foil almost complete in the front of the box. I use straps and I use the front holes, So I can move the straps and the foil a little more backward to create some headroom.
Select to expand quotelaurenswing said..Driks said..
OK. Thought about that too and will test it. But I got the ak phazer and the track box isn't that long. Thanx so far.
I am riding the Sf840 and SfF1030 with the advanced (40mm)ultra short fuse and the Ak phazer 78l V2. I mount the foil almost complete in the front of the box. I use straps and I use the front holes, So I can move the straps and the foil a little more backward to create some headroom.
I found the standard fuse works best when insufficient track space at the front.
I added an AP1051 to my ART999 three weeks ago. I am very happy with the choice and cant see myself using the ART999 much anymore. Im 85kg and wing in Sydney which is normally 10kt -25kt. I demo'd the AP1051 and found it a bit faster, much smoother at speed and the low end doesnt feel much higher than the ART999 except when getting up on foil where it definitely requires a bit more speed and a second or two more time. Based on the demo I was happy with the AP1051 and didn't test the AP1001 due to effort to get on foil. Given you are 10kg lighter than me I would test both as the AP1001 may be better for you. I am using the 362/50 skinny but you could easily go down to the 45.
im 72 kg, the 951 works well for me in that wind range. The 899 is a cruiser by comparison. Select to expand quoteJohnnyDepp said..
My favorite foil is ART 999. It has an absolutely crazy range and it is a joy to ride in our conditions. We get 13 to 17 knots here most of the time. I am looking for an ART PRO that would be similar to ART 899/799 in 15-17 knots.
Guys, if you have been riding ARTs and PROs, can you say which PRO would be the best equivalent for 899/799 (899 of course being too close to 999) - 1051 or 1001.
Or perhaps, if you have ridden PROs, could you assign workable / ideal wind ranges to 1051, 1001 and 951?
I am 75 kg.
Select to expand quoterseeg said..
I demo'd the AP1051 and found it a bit faster, much smoother at speed and the low end doesnt feel much higher than the ART999 except when getting up on foil where it definitely requires a bit more speed and a second or two more time.
I have the 1051 and 1121 and used the 999 extensively. I would put the 1121 directly on par with the 999. The low end lift of 1051 is definitely at a higher speed than the 999. The numbers of the two are close on these two foils, but they are completely different foils due to the combination of both span and chord. 1051 is a fighter jet in comparison if you can keep it up to speed.
Thank guys for your input. I got 1001 in the end. It was quite a big harder to get on foil initially compared to 999. But after two sessions it somehow became almost as easy. It took me about 5 hours and 3 sessions to get used to 1001 and manage all the tacks and jibes again now at much greater speed. It is my favourite foil in 13+ knots. My quiver is now 1050+999+1001 paired with 375P and 360/45.
