Thinking of changing to AFS, guessing Silk and/ or Enduro. 90kg wet, 75l ML. Sail places with wind swells knee to waist, but choppy too, and want to glide those swells. Another location has softish wind swells/waves shoulder to head +.and would like to carve a bit too but will not be radical.
Advice on front wing and stab combos please.
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Thinking of changing to AFS, guessing Silk and/ or Enduro. 90kg wet, 75l ML. Sail places with wind swells knee to waist, but choppy too, and want to glide those swells. Another location has softish wind swells/waves shoulder to head +.and would like to carve a bit too but will not be radical.
Advice on front wing and stab combos please.
I am about your weight the Enduro 900 works well with UG41 tail. I use the 80cm mast. Have the 1100 for light wind.
I've been thinking about my next steps from the Evo wings, is it broadly correct to think of silk vs enduro as carve vs glide?
Also, AFS are now teasing the silk v2 on social media, I got this rumour from someone on this forum last week and then saw the tease this week.
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I've been thinking about my next steps from the Evo wings, is it broadly correct to think of silk vs enduro as carve vs glide?
Also, AFS are now teasing the silk v2 on social media, I got this rumour from someone on this forum last week and then saw the tease this week.
Enduros turn very well. Just not as well as Silks. Their glide is much better. I demoed both and went with Enduros because they do everything very well.
If anyone interested www.seabreeze.com.au/Classifieds/Foiling-Foils-Complete/~mo5qq/2025-Afs-80-cm.aspx
Changing to Flitelab.
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Thinking of changing to AFS, guessing Silk and/ or Enduro. 90kg wet, 75l ML. Sail places with wind swells knee to waist, but choppy too, and want to glide those swells. Another location has softish wind swells/waves shoulder to head +.and would like to carve a bit too but will not be radical.
Advice on front wing and stab combos please.
I'm 86kg.
The whole Silk range is great with a wing. Hard to go wrong with any of those sizes if your head is in the right space. 650 is the best carve I've ever felt in foiling and 1050 is extremely versatile. With the UG tails and the skinny masts that thing can play on swell nicely.
I never fell in love with the 900 and larger enduros. 700/800 are special magic though. The 800 today with the Mako Carve Pro S tail, lovely.
Today I would buy:
80cm Skinny UHM
Enduro 800 with regular fuse to play well with Silks. (larger enduros are probably best with the short fuse)
Ultra Glide 41 or 39 for pure glide and longboard vibes with a parawing.
Mako Carve Pro S when you want to attack with a wing or have decent para skills.
(U Carve 130 might be a nice compromise between the two but I haven't tried it yet)
With all the Silk v2 teasers I would wait to buy that foil until we see what actually lands. If you must buy today and are winging I would go 650/850 with that same Mako tail. If you want more versatility I would go 1050 with UG41 for para and Mako for wing.
*AFS regular vs short fuse changes the front of the fuse length, not the tail. Regular is more roll oriented. Short is more pitch oriented to aid larger span foils.
With AFS, I usually say when in doubt size up the foil. They are high end weapons that excel when overpowered. They are not low end size down foils.
I heard the Silk V2 is slightly higher AR, profile tweaked to improve top and bottom ends.
I heard speed, glide, roll were the targets on the v2. I definitely told my dealer I wanted a couple of the smaller sizes when they come in!
I own an Afs Enduro 1000 and a North SF830.
for me, the Afs Enduro is considerably less user friendly than the North surf series. It is faster, more pitch sensitive and feel a lot livelier underfoot. Pumping is not yet intuitive and I think needs some finesse. But it is a wing I can definitely grow into and the glide is great.
the SF series is by contrast very stable and predictable, turns well and controlled, but a lot slower in its normal range and feels 'dull' /dampened underfoot.
Of course the wings are not directly comparable but I think there is something to be said about the feel of different brands - regardless of the specific foil.
where in the UK are you patronus?
for northsea alike conditions i would go for the combo Hilly adviced, that works for me on the other side (dutch coast) really wel with 97-99kg. For cornwall/devon/freshwaterwest area i think you want a Silk1050 with a faster tail like the UG or the Kparts Mako V2/pro 140.
I have a quiver of enduro,s (1600+1300+1100+900=700) (and a silk 1050+850) but 90% off my sessions are with the E900 or Silk1050.The smaller foils are fun in the right conditions and those are rare on my side of the Northsea (but love them in Ireland/Cornwall french Britanny).
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Thinking of changing to AFS, guessing Silk and/ or Enduro. 90kg wet, 75l ML. Sail places with wind swells knee to waist, but choppy too, and want to glide those swells. Another location has softish wind swells/waves shoulder to head +.and would like to carve a bit too but will not be radical.
Advice on front wing and stab combos please.
For what you are describing I'd start with an enduro 9. It should work for most of what you want to do with it and it has the glide for the small conditions. Your other location with shoulder/head high waves will probably overpower it and I'd probably go for the silk 850 there if the wave has any punch, or maybe an S650 or smaller enduro if the wave is lower energy.. Enduro has a big speed range but the roll locks in at the upper end of the range. That said, wait for the silk v2 before buying any silks. I find the enduro 9 has low end similar to the silk 1050 but you sacrifice roll for glide and speed.
I prefer the silk over the enduro but it favors higher power situations and doesn't optimize for glide.
I am currently really liking the pure 145 tail on most of my setups. It speeds them up vs the silk tails and doesn't sacrifice too much roll or playfulness. I haven't tried the new u carve or u glide tails though. There is a new u surf tail coming too.
Beginning to look like E900 or E1000, plus Silk 850. With HA Silk stabs? Maybe wait to see Silk V2
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Beginning to look like E900 or E1000, plus Silk 850. With HA Silk stabs? Maybe wait to see Silk V2
Pass on those Silk HA stabs. Too locked in. U Carve stabs are probably the call if you want a surfy glider.
