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3.2m Vayu Pyro Demo - Any Community Questions?

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Created by BWalnut A week ago, 8 Apr 2026
BWalnut
1119 posts
8 Apr 2026 11:53PM
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First rips on the Vayu Pyro yesterday. I'll have it for a week or two. Anyone have specific questions on this one they would like me to try and answer while I have it on hand?

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oskarhhh
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9 Apr 2026 1:56AM
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Do you have experience from other brands and can compare to the Pyro?

BWalnut
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9 Apr 2026 2:37AM
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oskarhhh said..
Do you have experience from other brands and can compare to the Pyro?


Yes, can do. BRM Ka'a and Paia, Pocket Rocket, Hatch.

pitbulldoug
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9 Apr 2026 9:28AM
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BWalnut said..

oskarhhh said..
Do you have experience from other brands and can compare to the Pyro?



Yes, can do. BRM Ka'a and Paia, Pocket Rocket, Hatch.


sure like to hear more about it had my eye on it 3.2m for higher wind days at 100kgs,one thing i noticed in pictures seems like bridals are bit more complex more lines than other top PWs out or is that my imagination? but sure like to hear your takes usual low-end/higher end/Upwind angles/ build quality canopy material lightness/packability/line quality/bar etc takes be great

BBQdSunfish
31 posts
9 Apr 2026 11:06AM
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How are the lines to handle? Closer to BRM or Pocket Rocket?

Does it fly off the front handle or further back?

Can you get the leading edge to collapse?

BWalnut
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9 Apr 2026 11:47PM
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pitbulldoug said.. one thing i noticed in pictures seems like bridals are bit more complex more lines than other top PWs out or is that my imagination?


Where every other parawing I've used went with A, B, C line sets the Pyro is A, B, C, D, E. You could argue that its A1 (central A's) A2, B, C, D but either way you are correct in noticing that there are a lot of lines coming off the bar. I'll refer to the A lines as A1 and A2 for remainder of comments here.


If you grab all A lines like I do (I dislike center A collapse) then you are grabbing 12 lines that split into 36 line sets. During the collapse your hand hits all of these knots and stitching at once:



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How are the lines to handle? Closer to BRM or Pocket Rocket?


Lines are closer to BRM than Pocket Rocket. As far as handling goes: Other than the A1 lines, the lines are quite stiff and the knots/stitching are harsh on my hands, especially when wet. I love how soft the Pocket Rocket lines are and how they naturally roll up into my stow package. These lines don't roll up into the canopy very well, at least not in my first session. They are so stiff that they don't like being rolled. While I do not like that, I must say, the redeploy vs the pocket rocket is quite mindless with the Pyro. The lines are so stiff that they just spring back out into their natural position without tangling which is nice.

I want to get a few more sessions on it before I answer the other questions but keep piling them up and I'll answer them, likely next week.

pitbulldoug
197 posts
10 Apr 2026 12:06AM
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that's what I thought on visual,wow a lot going on there line wise wait for your report but first thing comes to mind is when I have a tangle lets face it happens sometimes for example with my frigates usually get them sorted fairly quickly, but the vayu looks like it could be another level sorting them out after a fall?but have to hear what you say after putting more time on it.that said looks like it is a very good flying PW

Holoholo
254 posts
10 Apr 2026 1:33AM
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I'm likely holding out in hopes of a Pocket Rocket with arms length, Powerpack material/configured bridle. Ive tried a good number of PWs, have definitely settled on preferring high aspect- love the performance of the PR, loath the lines which I make work, but that/the soft canopy get worse with age. Im often in high wind, often burly gusts, so my biggest ask in a PW is upwind angle with good upper range, stability, ease of use/ability to ride off front lines. Next priority would be stash/deploy. It doesn't have to be best in class, but at least good/predictable. I have looked at the Duotone Stash V2 and the Pyro with some interest as it seems these 2 have a lot of these qualities. So my main question is upwind/upper end stability/ease ability of the Pyro. And yeah- is the stash/deploy reasonably good. Looking forward to your take.

BWalnut
1119 posts
13 Apr 2026 2:25PM
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All done with the Pyro. There are some elements to it that I can appreciate but after a few sessions I'm settled on saying it's not the right para for me.

Build quality is nice, everything seems well made.
Upwind angles are as good as any other.
Upwind speed was slower than the Pocket Rocket.
More durable than my Pocket Rockets.
Excellent redeploy.
Steers off the front lines great.
Canopy is nice packable material.
Leading edge collapsed for a split second in a gust on my first day with it.
The backpack bag seemed awesome for doing multi para missions.

Why it's not for me:
Low end and high end didn't line up with what I'm used to. I was experiencing similar low end of the 3.2m Pyro to the 3.1m BRM Paia. Friends were on sails a full size smaller than me. On the high end I wasn't as comfortable as I was used to. With the 3m Pocket Rocket in the same winds I would have been very confident hooking in and powering through the gusts. With the Pyro I consistently bore off downwind because the pull was too strong for my comfort. Hopefully anyone who buys the Pyro and has more time than I did with it will get better at managing the low and high end.

Too many A lines on retract for my taste. As I mentioned in a previous post above, there's 12 A lines that split into 36. When you collapse via the A lines your hand hits 12 knots and has to run over 48 sets of stitching, all at roughly the same spot. This hindered the retract for me and while doing a single reach stow on the beach was easy, doing it on the water required a 2 stage pull anytime the lines and my hands were wet.

While it wasn't for me for those reasons it seems to be well liked by many others. If you're interested in one I'd try to find a shop, buddy, or local rider to get a demo from.

drc13
NSW, 177 posts
14 Apr 2026 7:03AM
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Thanks for the detailed review!Somewhat unrelated but I'm heading your way for the first time in July.Generally speaking what size parawing would get the most use?I'm 70kg and currently riding a quest 4m, about to add another but unsure on 2.5m vs 3m. The 3 would probably get more use at home but I'm unsure if it will be too big for hood.Cheers mate

pitbulldoug
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14 Apr 2026 10:27AM
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BWalnut said..
All done with the Pyro. There are some elements to it that I can appreciate but after a few sessions I'm settled on saying it's not the right para for me.

Build quality is nice, everything seems well made.
Upwind angles are as good as any other.
Upwind speed was slower than the Pocket Rocket.
More durable than my Pocket Rockets.
Excellent redeploy.
Steers off the front lines great.
Canopy is nice packable material.
Leading edge collapsed for a split second in a gust on my first day with it.
The backpack bag seemed awesome for doing multi para missions.

Why it's not for me:
Low end and high end didn't line up with what I'm used to. I was experiencing similar low end of the 3.2m Pyro to the 3.1m BRM Paia. Friends were on sails a full size smaller than me. On the high end I wasn't as comfortable as I was used to. With the 3m Pocket Rocket in the same winds I would have been very confident hooking in and powering through the gusts. With the Pyro I consistently bore off downwind because the pull was too strong for my comfort. Hopefully anyone who buys the Pyro and has more time than I did with it will get better at managing the low and high end.

Too many A lines on retract for my taste. As I mentioned in a previous post above, there's 12 A lines that split into 36. When you collapse via the A lines your hand hits 12 knots and has to run over 48 sets of stitching, all at roughly the same spot. This hindered the retract for me and while doing a single reach stow on the beach was easy, doing it on the water required a 2 stage pull anytime the lines and my hands were wet.

While it wasn't for me for those reasons it seems to be well liked by many others. If you're interested in one I'd try to find a shop, buddy, or local rider to get a demo from.

Thanks for the review think Im gonna wait for the frigate V2 or PRV2 to come out for my high end PW probably a 3m or 3.5 at 100 kgs+probably get a little more range hoping

BWalnut
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Tuesday , 14 Apr 2026 12:10PM
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drc13 said..
Thanks for the detailed review!Somewhat unrelated but I'm heading your way for the first time in July.Generally speaking what size parawing would get the most use?I'm 70kg and currently riding a quest 4m, about to add another but unsure on 2.5m vs 3m. The 3 would probably get more use at home but I'm unsure if it will be too big for hood.Cheers mate


I'd encourage you to buy the 3 since it will be more useful at home. The 3 is awesome in the Gorge for me at 86kg on the Pocket Rockets. If you luck out and it's really nuking while you're here you can buy something local and used for cheap, or hopefully even just score a demo for the day that you really need it. Let me know when you get here if you need anything or want to go for a rip!


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pitbulldoug said..
Thanks for the review think Im gonna wait for the frigate V2 or PRV2 to come out for my high end PW probably a 3m or 3.5 at 100 kgs+probably get a little more range hoping


I'm guessing I'll land on the PRV2 but am intrigued to see what BRM releases.

drc13
NSW, 177 posts
Tuesday , 14 Apr 2026 3:50PM
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drc13 said..
Thanks for the detailed review!Somewhat unrelated but I'm heading your way for the first time in July.Generally speaking what size parawing would get the most use?I'm 70kg and currently riding a quest 4m, about to add another but unsure on 2.5m vs 3m. The 3 would probably get more use at home but I'm unsure if it will be too big for hood.Cheers mate




I'd encourage you to buy the 3 since it will be more useful at home. The 3 is awesome in the Gorge for me at 86kg on the Pocket Rockets. If you luck out and it's really nuking while you're here you can buy something local and used for cheap, or hopefully even just score a demo for the day that you really need it. Let me know when you get here if you need anything or want to go for a rip!




pitbulldoug said..
Thanks for the review think Im gonna wait for the frigate V2 or PRV2 to come out for my high end PW probably a 3m or 3.5 at 100 kgs+probably get a little more range hoping




I'm guessing I'll land on the PRV2 but am intrigued to see what BRM releases.



Thanks so much that's just the answer I needed I'll grab a 3m! Yeah I'd love that, I'll be staying in White Salmon for 9 days Catch you when I'm there and thanks again for the reviews of all the gear

BWalnut
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Wednesday , 15 Apr 2026 1:20AM
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drc13 said..

BWalnut said..



drc13 said..
Thanks for the detailed review!Somewhat unrelated but I'm heading your way for the first time in July.Generally speaking what size parawing would get the most use?I'm 70kg and currently riding a quest 4m, about to add another but unsure on 2.5m vs 3m. The 3 would probably get more use at home but I'm unsure if it will be too big for hood.Cheers mate





I'd encourage you to buy the 3 since it will be more useful at home. The 3 is awesome in the Gorge for me at 86kg on the Pocket Rockets. If you luck out and it's really nuking while you're here you can buy something local and used for cheap, or hopefully even just score a demo for the day that you really need it. Let me know when you get here if you need anything or want to go for a rip!





pitbulldoug said..
Thanks for the review think Im gonna wait for the frigate V2 or PRV2 to come out for my high end PW probably a 3m or 3.5 at 100 kgs+probably get a little more range hoping





I'm guessing I'll land on the PRV2 but am intrigued to see what BRM releases.




Thanks so much that's just the answer I needed I'll grab a 3m! Yeah I'd love that, I'll be staying in White Salmon for 9 days Catch you when I'm there and thanks again for the reviews of all the gear


No problem!

I keep this updated so when you come to town if you are in need of a new para or a demo run there's a few places that are pretty quick to hand out gear for a test ride:

www.wouzel.com/gear-library

Holoholo
254 posts
Thursday , 16 Apr 2026 5:50AM
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BWalnut said..
All done with the Pyro. There are some elements to it that I can appreciate but after a few sessions I'm settled on saying it's not the right para for me.

Build quality is nice, everything seems well made.
Upwind angles are as good as any other.
Upwind speed was slower than the Pocket Rocket.
More durable than my Pocket Rockets.
Excellent redeploy.
Steers off the front lines great.
Canopy is nice packable material.
Leading edge collapsed for a split second in a gust on my first day with it.
The backpack bag seemed awesome for doing multi para missions.

Why it's not for me:
Low end and high end didn't line up with what I'm used to. I was experiencing similar low end of the 3.2m Pyro to the 3.1m BRM Paia. Friends were on sails a full size smaller than me. On the high end I wasn't as comfortable as I was used to. With the 3m Pocket Rocket in the same winds I would have been very confident hooking in and powering through the gusts. With the Pyro I consistently bore off downwind because the pull was too strong for my comfort. Hopefully anyone who buys the Pyro and has more time than I did with it will get better at managing the low and high end.

Too many A lines on retract for my taste. As I mentioned in a previous post above, there's 12 A lines that split into 36. When you collapse via the A lines your hand hits 12 knots and has to run over 48 sets of stitching, all at roughly the same spot. This hindered the retract for me and while doing a single reach stow on the beach was easy, doing it on the water required a 2 stage pull anytime the lines and my hands were wet.

While it wasn't for me for those reasons it seems to be well liked by many others. If you're interested in one I'd try to find a shop, buddy, or local rider to get a demo from.


Thanks- that's helpful. All good information that echoes what little I've heard.

Relapse
VIC, 620 posts
Thursday , 16 Apr 2026 11:00PM
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Hydro Gav does a review of the Pyro on his YouTube channel, he's pretty unbiased as far as I've seen and definitely doesn't hold back on dislikes. I have the 2.5/3.2/4.0 Pyro and my experience lines up with his. Size wise I've found them comparable to the Ozone PR and Frigate in bottom end at 70kg. I've only tried the 4.7m BRM Kanaha and found that closer to the 4.0m Pryo in bottom end, maybe it's a projected vs actual area thing.

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At 70kg riding mainly Code 850/980S on a 65L Armie ML these are roughly the 'gust' wind ranges I get. You can keep going in a fair bit less bottom end wise with good technique.

4.0m 15-25 knots
3.2m 19-30 knots
2.5m 23-35 knots

I'm about 35 sessions in on my Pryos and managing the top end definitely gets easier the more you use them over powered. Harness really helps too.

Definitely one to consider out of the current crop of single skin wings.

BWalnut
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Thursday , 16 Apr 2026 10:37PM
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At 70kg riding mainly Code 850/980S on a 65L Armie ML these are roughly the 'gust' wind ranges I get. You can keep going in a fair bit less bottom end wise with good technique.

4.0m 15-25 knots
3.2m 19-30 knots
2.5m 23-35 knots

I'm about 35 sessions in on my Pryos and managing the top end definitely gets easier the more you use them over powered. Harness really helps too.



Thanks for sharing those added details. That paints a nice picture of a more experienced Pyro user for me.

To contrast more clearly with what I'm used to for reference:
86kg dry with full winter gear puts me at 96kg. I tested it over 3 days with Silk 1050, Enduro 800, and Ultra 600. Tested with 68l and 77l Sunova midlengths. In the Gorge, our wind is GUSTY.

The 3.2m Pyro low end for me felt dicey at 25kts but had a hard 30 knot ceiling. The 3m Pocket Rocket on the other hand has a dicey low end of 21-23 knots for me (1600km of experience) but stays comfortable to 35 knots and in poorly planned scenarios can survive at 40 knots for a sketchy ride home.

I think these differences probably explain our different low end experience:
1. Code foils have better low end than mine.
2. Your kg to liter ratio is more favorable.
3. 3 vs 35 sessions is a big difference.

So, thanks again for adding your experience to the mix. When you line it all up, the different experiences track pretty well.

TomoT
VIC, 3 posts
Monday , 20 Apr 2026 9:57AM
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Hi Bryan and all, I'm 88kg dry and have used the Pyro for over 30+ sessions, after using the Flow v1, BRM, Frigate and Ozone PR. Code foil riding, bay bumps and ocean swell, DW and surf.

In quick summary, I have found the Pyro the best balance of all of these. If you've used the above, you know the trade off, where as the Pyro for me doesn't have trade off, it's just has very enjoyable riding features.In regards, to what I called the A1, A2, lines but Brandon calls the A1 and B risers, this is a actually a design feature, not a flaw/negative IMO.

The extra lines give huge amounts of profile stability, which holds its shape and gives you better upwind. It's designed to stowed of the A1 lines, which is a very easy kill in all wind strengths. If you've even been over powered on a para and or dropping into a critical wave/section, not getting a full kill, like on the Frigate, with a big mushroom that catches wing and can re=open, it's a huge plus and I can safety feature in waves that I ride. I can't personally afford to have ribs re-open and pull me off balance. I'd personally take the extra lines all day, every day.

In regards to the line stiffness, I used the PR once and had SOOO many tangles on just one run, I gave it back to my friend and haven't used or wanted to use it again since. I totally get the softness on the hands, but no line coating means tangles on near every chance it gets. So again for me, as you say, I'll take redeploy rate all day. I agree with with knots on the hands if you grab the A1/2, but again, use the A1 and just take your time on the wing tip collection or I've seen many guys use a O ring type set up or even some tape to give their fingers a break, as yes wet hands and soft skin and high use can have a abrasive affect.

Your run upwind angles look great! I personally haven't found the Pyro slow at all and my VMG,, I find, is very good. I'd have to back to back with the PR, but to me it's comparable without all the line length and tangle trade offs. Relapse above actually pulled 25 knots on a 4m and a Code 500S, so the top end and upwind angles is definitely there for high VMG. Gunnar Biniasch ( kitechino) on insta actually helped design this and was a tester with Brandon, who explains all of the way better and more technical than I can below. Gunnar was a kite race foiler and designer of both kite and foils, so I feel like his influence into this with Bill the designer is why it took a while to come out, as he wouldn't let it out until it had all the features he valued, which I am on the same page with.

The 5m will be out soon, they've done some nice bridle tweaks to increase the bottom end, to make it maximise light winds, but not be 'heavy' like a frigate with it's canopy material.

I think something that's over looked for riders and it's beginners, is the Pyro want to 'self fly' fly and be stable. When I stack, I just hold my hand up 'lady of the lake' Excalibur style and there it is, still flying, sitting there waiting for me to get my act together haha. I think that's invaluable for light wind, beginners and even just walking out with your kit under your arm and para sitting stable above your head.Anyway, that's my two to four cents haha, it's very enjoyable exciting space and I've learnt all my skills on the Pyro and it's exceeding my expectations and skills, so can't see me changing it and why I'm happy to recommend it to beginners and advanced. Just looking forward to the 5m being at 88kg plus winter gear and not wanting to upsize my foil.

Enjoy the Hood Bryan, amazing place. Maybe track down Brandon and have a chat/demo with the 5m.Cheers

Jimi C
NSW, 7 posts
Monday , 20 Apr 2026 10:50AM
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I've had the chance to test a lot of parawings while Vayu figured out the Pyro and personally I would say the Pyro and the Duotone Stash V2 are going down a similar rode. The Flow D Wind V2 and Ozone Power Pack are going down a different road.

The Pyro punches above its weight in terms of size. You can get away with a smaller parawing in the same conditions when compared to the D Wing V2. The Pyro has more power down low and you can angle much further upwind for the same sized alternative. The disadvantage is you are likely to become over powered earlier, basically you need to use a smaller version before others. To me this is a huge benefit as why wouldn't you want to use a smaller parawing?

The advantage of the Flow D Wind V2 and Ozone Power Pack is if you are only going out in really windy conditions it is much harder to be over powered as they handle being powered up a little better than the Pyro/Stash V2. The disadvantage of the Flow D Wind V2 and Ozone Power Pack is if the wind drops or it is not such a windy session then you are going to struggle to get going and struggle to get upwind.

As I mentioned all parawings are getting better and personally I am a big fan of the Vayu Pyro for my conditions. I used the Flow D Wing V2 a fair bit before the Pyro was released and I could get used to that as well but it was different and I was riding a bigger parawing to get the same amount of power but it handled being over powered really well. You need to decide what kind of conditions you go out in and if you are more likely to be riding over powered or under powered. You then need to really wrap your head around what sizes you need to use for what conditions as there are two different types of parawings emerging and you cannot just use the same size as your mate who is using a different type of parawing.

I did a review of the Pyro if you're interested

BWalnut
1119 posts
Monday , 20 Apr 2026 2:24PM
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Thanks for chiming in Tom and James! You guys have great, valid points.

Tom, your comments about it being really easy to fly are dead on. I could totally see how riders would appreciate that!

James, the two roads perspective is a perfect way to look at it. It further clarifies my experience. Since 20-40 knots is quite common for me, and sessions push into 50+ knots several times a year, I value the slippery gust absorption of the Pocket Rocket and Paia in my local conditions.

Thanks for giving us a deep dive and different angles to consider. Always good hearing the how and why behind the gear from different perspectives. Cheers!

gorgesailor
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Today , 22 Apr 2026 1:37AM
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drc13 said..
Thanks for the detailed review!Somewhat unrelated but I'm heading your way for the first time in July.Generally speaking what size parawing would get the most use?I'm 70kg and currently riding a quest 4m, about to add another but unsure on 2.5m vs 3m. The 3 would probably get more use at home but I'm unsure if it will be too big for hood.Cheers mate


You can check out the Pyro for yourself when you're in the Gorge. Hydrocraft Systems in Hood River should have demos available by Mid May...



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